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Out of curiosity, what is the cheapest non-Imperial army one can do? I ask this because I am considering starting a P&M thread where I would make an army for under X amount. A tale of four gamers sort of thing kind of not really. I have like three Imperial Armies as is and I want something different. Not Orks, though.

Probably Chaos as they are in the starter box. You can usually get just the chaos half of a starter box for 40 bucks. So you can take the bolt gun chosen spice them up by switching out backpack and bolters ( I assume you have plenty of each lying around from your 3 imperial armies) and have a 5 man csm squad 4 ten man cultists. switch some of the weapons on your chosen to make them a little more optimal, and use one hellbrute a simple flamer conversion should help with that less than useful MM and whatever other conversions you can come up with to spice them up. The other hellbrute either sell or trade for whatever you can get. Then boom there you go! 80 bucks and you have yourself a pretty neat army. It will kind of be up to your conversion skills on how cool they are.

Tau all the way. 1-cuz points go quick so your money will go a long way points wise and 2-cuz they're badass.

I would say tau or necrons.

Why?

because the codex hoppers who jumped on necrons a long time ago prolly jumped on tau or eldar and their armies are prolly on ebay now.

The tau codex hoppers are prolly starting to have a hard time because people are finally starting to figure out how to beat them, or they have moved on to eldar or "counts as" white scars.

I see a lot of necron armies on ebay cheap these days.....and the tau lists are growing a well.

of course, some nid players rage quite over the new book, so those have become more common as well.

best of luck!

I think I will go with Chaos. Cause Word Bearers are cool and I want to be all evil for once. A little unrelated but would it be an okay conversion to mount a battle cannon onto a Hellbrute and use it as a counts as defiler? Or is the profile too different?

CSM can buff up units an absolute crazy amount. You'd be surprised just how many points you can spend on an HQ and a unit of 5 terminators. I mean, abbadon and 2 units of chosen as troops can get you a 750 point list in a breeze.

Not that that's, you know... a GOOD use of points, but you can keep model count pretty low.

Otherwise, I guess I'd say orks because there's still AoBR stuff around.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I think I will go with Chaos. Cause Word Bearers are cool and I want to be all evil for once. A little unrelated but would it be an okay conversion to mount a battle cannon onto a Hellbrute and use it as a counts as defiler? Or is the profile too different?

I agree, probably Chaos.

And no, I wouldn't use a Helbrute as a counts-as-defiler. Seems to be that there's probably too big of a size difference.

owning both a defiler and hellbrute the defiler is proably twice the size of the helbrute so yeah thats a no go.as someone who plays both vanilla marines and chaos marines, one word of warning is that if one or more of your three Imperial armies are Marines of some stripe, in terms of painting it's gonna feel kinda familer.

I think necrons are a sound idea, especially since you are very economical, not only model-wise, but also paintswise. I feel like a decent-looking necron army can be done with less than 6 paint pots.

Tyranids then. You can buy a metric butt ton of nids on eBay for the price of a happy meal.

Chaos Daemons the FMC build easily can run you about $300 for a 2000 point army. Less if you are good with greenstuff/conversions.

I'm going to second Daemons.

Two Daemon kits and two pink horror kits can get you around 1000 points. Or you can spend a little more and get the Fatewaver model.

I agree with Necrons my good man. $115 gets you the Battleforce, x20 Warriors, x5 Immortals/Deathmarks x16 Scarabs (I think) and a Ghost Arc/Doomsday Ark. I think a Catacomb Command Barge is $37.25 or thereabouts so you can get a darn didily good force for a reasonable investment. Doom Scythe/Night Scythes are about $44 a piece, and Warriors are like $33. You can literally build a 2000 point competitive army for about $454.75 plus tax. To compare, I have invested $465 dollars so far on my Blood Angels and I'm only at 1500 points or so.

Sprue-crons.

You don't need Necron bits when your army is made from sprues.

Hmm. Necrons is also starting to sound appealing. I don't care much for the army but I guess this could be a chance to fall in love with the Terminator-esque gentlemen. Do Blood Angels/Space Marines make good allies for Necrons?

the army that won adepticon was Daemons with CSM allies and at 1850pts costs 400 bucks..

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Hmm. Necrons is also starting to sound appealing. I don't care much for the army but I guess this could be a chance to fall in love with the Terminator-esque gentlemen. Do Blood Angels/Space Marines make good allies for Necrons?

For now skip the blood angel allies. They are too costly. Points and cash wise...

To clarify, Necron troop choice are better overall with RP and Tesla/gauss. Your troops can glance vehicles on rolls of 6, and could arc additional hits on rolls of 6 as well making them more killy and survivable in the long run. The have access to the Night Scythe, which IMO is the best transport in the game right now. Compare to Blood angels troops who are very expensive per unit, and lack firepower to boot. Taking Assault Marines would be nice if it wasn't almost 200 points to kit a squad of ten decently, and even then the best guns are plasma pistols and Melta Guns, which, while nice, doesn't offer the range needed in the meta right now. Tactical Marines are just to expensive to justify using right now, though I do like my Tacticals As far as HQ's go, Mephiston or Librarian is the way to go. Due to lack of transport though, even with WOS getting them into the thick is tough. Mephiston is a right beat stick, but he attracts ludicrous amounts of gunfire and it can be tough to keep him alive. Librarians are good, but again, they are costly. Basically taking an allied force of BA will cost you points that take away from Annihilation Barges, Night Scythes, Ghost Arks, Doom Scythes, Doomsday Arcs and whatnot, which are VERY scary on the battlefield. Plus, BA are all about melee, which Wraiths do a million times better anyway so you have that covered. Necrons are the best Jack-of-all-Trades army out there right now so no need to bring allies at all.

Damn. I was really hoping to make an entire army around a tired and lame joke. Ah, well. How about Eldar? Prices inflated because they are "whats in"?