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Hey Guys!

Just a quick note on what the list is for. My state is holding a State Championship in August. It will be its 10th year anniversary and to celebrate the normal limit of 1850pts has been raised to 2500pts. As an added bonus, Forge World units are allowed, and Escalation and Stronghold assault are also available for use. I'm not to familiar with Forge World units, and so have opted not to take any in this list. I have aimed to make it as competitive as possible, as the tournament is quite popular in my state, and we get players from all over the country rocking up to play. Let me know what you guys think

Codex: Eldar 6th Edition (2013) (Primary Detachment) Selections:

HQ

Farseer w/ Witchblade, Eldar Jetbike

Troops

3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes

Codex: Tau Empire (Formation Detachment) Selections:

Firebase Support Cadre

XV104 Riptide w/ Early warning override, Ion accelerator, Twin-linked smart missile system

3x Broadside Shas'ui w/ Target lock, Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system
3x Broadside Shas'ui w/ Target lock, Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system

Fortification

Skyshield Landing Pad

Codex Inquisition (Inquisitorial Detachment)

HQ

Inquisitor Coteaz

Elites

3x Acolyte w/ Carapace Armour, Plasmagun
3x Servitor w/ Plasma Cannon

Dark Eldar 6th Ed (2010) (Allied Detachment)

HQ

Asdrubael Vect

Troops

5x Kabalite Warrior

Lord Of War

Revenant Titan


Basically, Coteaz and Vect make it very hard for my opponent to get first turn, meaning my Titan will be able to move, and get his 4+ holofield. It will also make it easier for first blood, and for the Titan to remove 2 high target threats from the board. The Tau are there for anti-air, and for an amazing number of Tank Hunter shots to pop transports etc. The Plasma squad is there for Drop pods wanting to drop down and melta my Titan. Coteaz will allow them to fire at anything dropping within 12". Needless to say the jetbikes are in reserve to come and contest/claim objectives. The Landing pad is for the 4+ invulnerable save to my titan and to my tau firebase.

Good list? Or am I putting to much emphasis on going first?

Thanks for reading!

You have a TON of pressure on going first, but seeing you have a good chance, I wouldn't change anything, my only concern is against someone who has literally tonnes of flyers/FMC some people don't think it works, but ive seen it and it does. But unless you fight against someone like nid 6 crones 4 flyrants or LoC fatey and his daemon friends I think the titan will have you covered on their lords of war.

Note. If you feel somewhat worried you can always drop skyshield and take some void shields for D protection,

Thanks for your reply!

I had the same thoughts as you. If somehow I don't go first, there is a very high chance of being tabled. Perhaps I should replace my inquisitorial detachment and Dark Eldar allies and just concentrate on some more firepower/bodies?

Flyers are an issue as well. I was thinking of perhaps bringing in some Crimson Hunters, finding the points will be hard though.

Do you think I should focus so intensely on going first? Or should I try and get more on the table?

Side note: I would love to get some Void Shields in. Was thinking of dropping a unit of Jetbikes for one.

Hmm, at DFOC you could get the baron, coteaz AND vect for a giant chance of going first, and then as many void shields as your allowed, so the d weapons will knock them down before you lose anything important.

As for AA CH is perfect, but the broad sides and riptide should have any small amount of flyers covered, its the people who go all out that you should worry about, in that event just go for tabling maneuver.

Just one question that I just noticed, is this tournament DFOC? If so won't you need another HQ for main detachment?

Yeah it is a DFOC tournament, but in the rules pack it just says that its available. You dont have to take an additional Primary detachment if you dont want to.

What do you think of Coteaz's unit? Do you think they are necessary or should I drop them for something else?

I think that Void Shields might be important here. Ill have to try and shuffle some things around to get them in.

I would keep the PC servitors, drop the acolytes as they need 4s to hit if they don't die.

In Also that's a cool rule with the DFOC deal, PM me the results of the tournament (or heck make a battle report on it!) because I think its going to be nuts with the combos.

i think it should do good vs most normal lists, but vs any real air list you will be in major trouble. Hell my 1850 list for crons in escalation has 6 fliers on top of an anrakyr bomb and a pylon so at 2500 i could only imagine the type of air power that will be present in some lists (daemons with Aetos come to mind or skyblight nids with harridan)

He already knows that, in the case of a heavy air force roll well enough that nothing survives to come in on turn 2.

Yeah. Flying lists are going to be a real pain. Im tempted to drop my Dark Eldar allies and just go for 3 Crimson Hunters.

I will definitely let you know how it went! Ill try and film as much as I can from my games so I can do a detailed battle report of the weekend!

What do you think about dropping Vect for some crimson hunters?

Your dark eldar allies wont get you more than one crimson hunter

Thats true. Id have to swap out some other things.

Would it be worth including 2-3 hunters?

Not familiar with the Firebase dataslate, but if it allows, add velocity trackers for the broadsides. 12 Twinlinked, BS3 tank hunting S7 missile shots per unit should provide good anti air. Just need to hide them first turn!

Basically the dataslate is just the Riptide and 2 units of Broadsides. You can equip them however you want following the Tau Codex

They just get Tank Hunters and preferred enemy against Space Marines (For no extra cost, kinda a no-brainer )

I think that might be a good idea. Would save me having to remove my high chance of first turn special characters to fit anti air in.

Yeah, you need that first turn.

My recommendations:

Go double-FOC.

Get an Autarch to control your reserves.

Drop the plasma cannon servitors and the plasma guns/carapace on the acolytes.

Drop 1 unit of jetbike troops.

Get a Void Shield Generator w/3 Void Shields


Personally, I'd drop the Tau formation and get 3 Nightwing Interceptors instead (that's the Eldar flyer with 2+ jink saves....ouch!).

Thanks for your reply jy2!

How come I should go double FOC for the Autarch? I could slot him in with my second HQ choice with my primary!

I love the idea of the void shields. Definitely going to take your advice there. Only downside is I lose a bit of firepower, which I think outside the Titan, the list lacks.

Id look into the Interceptors, but I dont have the models :(

What do you think I should drop to get the Autarch in? And do you think I need more anti air? Other than changing the equipment on the Broadsides?

Double-FOC so that you can take 2 fortifications - the Skyshield and the VSG. Otherwise, you can only take 1. Void Shields are necessary because if you go up against another D-titan, the skyshield isn't going to help.

Otherwise, if you want to go single-FOC, I would actually take the VSG over the Skyshield.

Drop some of the guns on your Inquisitional troops. You can even drop 1 unit of jetbikes. You've already got a lot of scoring units with 6 jetbikes, 2 henchmen and 1 kabalite warriors. That is way more than enough.

Interesting idea, I would keep the PC servitors though, they may come in useful for something that needs to die, but not scary enough for the titan to need to shoot at.

And with the points dropped from the henchmen dropping 1 unit of bikes means you can take an autarch on bike to chill with the farseer, or take a foot autarch and give him reaper launcher or sniper rifle (just because).

Ahhh I see. That makes sense.

For that to work I would have to have My Farseer and at least 2 units of Jetbikes in one FOC, and an Autarch and at least 2 units of Jetbikes in the other to make it legal right? One FOC can take the skyshield, and the other can take the Void Shields.

I like the idea of the Autarch on a jetbike also. Points may be an issue here. But ill see what I can do.

I just like the idea of the skyshield because it gives my titan so much survivability against other stuff that isn't D. Melta guns, lascannons etc.

Ill re-do the list, and see what you guys think!




Automatically Appended Next Post:
A couple of changes due to your advice (Thanks!). I think the list is looking pretty good now. A bit more AA, some reserve manipulation, and some void shields to protect my big baby (titan, ahem).

Codex: Eldar 6th Edition (2013) (Primary Detachment) Selections:

HQ

Farseer w/ Witchblade, Eldar Jetbike
Autarch

Troops

3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes

Codex: Tau Empire (Formation Detachment) Selections:

Firebase Support Cadre

XV104 Riptide w/ Early warning override, Velocity Tracker, Ion accelerator, Twin-linked smart missile system

2x Broadside Shas'ui w/ Target lock, Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system, 1x Broadside Shas'ui w/ Velocity Tracker, Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system
2x Broadside Shas'ui w/ Target lock, Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system, 1x Broadside Shas'ui w/ Velocity Tracker, Twin-linked high-yield missile pod, Twin-linked smart missile system

Fortification

Void Shield Generator w/ 3 Projected Void Shields

Codex Inquisition (Inquisitorial Detachment)

HQ

Inquisitor Coteaz

Elites

3x Acolyte w/ Laspistol, CCW

Dark Eldar 6th Ed (2010) (Allied Detachment)

HQ

Asdrubael Vect

Troops

5x Kabalite Warrior

Lord Of War

Revenant Titan


Had to drop all of the weapons from the Acolyte squad, the landing pad and a unit of Jetbikes to include an Autarch, Void shields and Velocity Trackers on 2 broadsides and the Riptide.

What do you guys think?