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So I read the entries for the Taurox and noticed that it's not a tank and therefore seemingly cannot ram and tank shock. the Taurox prime IS a tank and can therefore do both.

Am I missing anything? Has this come up or is this intentional? has anyone asked GW about that?

The rules are rules. Vehicles with tank can shock and ram, vehicles without tank can't. End of.

The taurox prime is different from the regular taurox in many ways.

Yes I have no argument as to tyhe import of the omission of the work "tank" in the entry.

Mainly I wanted to know if anyone had called or e-mailed GW to ask about it. It would probably have to be an Errata if they even plan to, but before I used them I wanted to see if GW had said anything on the matter or if anyone had looked into it.

 Jancoran wrote:
Mainly I wanted to know if anyone had called or e-mailed GW to ask about it..

For what purpose?

The answers you will get by doing that are the personal opinion of their mail order staff. GW don't do 'official' rules answers, because we're not supposed to care that much about the rules.

It sounds like an oversight. Emailing gw increases the chances of it making it into the next errata.

Captyn_Bob wrote:
It sounds like an oversight. Emailing gw increases the chances of it making it into the next errata.

This. I call bs on this.

Forgeworld? Yes. GW? No.

Also, the Taurox is inferior in pretty much every way. Run Primes or chimeras.

Well this isn't really a thread about better and worse. It's just about errata or GW clarifications on it. Looking at the models themselves and so on... I probably would have misplayed that a dozen times before either one of us noticed it. I only noticed it because I was noticing one was Fast and one was not and while looking at that I saw the Tank designator missing.

Anyways it's no big deal. If anyone hears anything, please post it!

 Jancoran wrote:
the Taurox prime IS a tank and can therefore do both.

Looking at my codex (iBook) the Prime is NOT listed as a tank.
Neither Taurox are.

 grendel083 wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
the Taurox prime IS a tank and can therefore do both.

Looking at my codex (iBook) the Prime is NOT listed as a tank.
Neither Taurox are.

Oh fun, competing versions of the same rule? Which codex are you guys looking at, wondering if there is also a difference in the AM and MT versions

EDIT: MT Taurox Prime in the hardback is Fast,Transport, and the same in my copy of the ebook AM. With the base Taurox as just Transport in the AM

For a complete comparison:

iBook Codex: Astra Militarum (Enhanced Edition)

Taurox: Vehicle (Transport)
Taurox Prime: Vehicle (Fast, Transport)

Yep, neither is a tank. If any version says otherwise, it is definitely a typo.

 Ailaros wrote:
The rules are rules. Vehicles with tank can shock and ram, vehicles without tank can't. End of.

DE vehicles with a shock prow can tank shock

Well the Prime does say tan in Astra Militarum so THEIRS are tanks. But the base Taurox is not.

So it would appear that the Astra Militarum one is better. Again...why I asked. It's an interesting contradiction but perhaps intentional.

Printed version of C:AM has all Taurox & Prime listings without Tank

 Jancoran wrote:
Well the Prime does say tan in Astra Militarum so THEIRS are tanks. But the base Taurox is not.

So it would appear that the Astra Militarum one is better. Again...why I asked. It's an interesting contradiction but perhaps intentional.

Maybe you should post a screen shot.

Those with the printed AM codex are disputing what you are saying.

I can confirm that the ibook version of the AM codex does not have 'tank' for either variety of Taurox both in the main rules nor in the reference section (the same with the ebook version of the Militarum Tempestus codex).

The WD article that also contains the rules for the Taurox & Taurox Prime also does not have Primes labeled as being a tank either.


So where exactly are you seeing that a Taurox Prime is listed as a tank (a pic would be helpful)?

I can assure you that it is a typo if it does exist, given the amount of other sources confirmed by myself and others in this thread that show otherwise.

 Brachiaraidos wrote:
Printed version of C:AM has all Taurox & Prime listings without Tank

Same as epub.

 Jancoran wrote:
Well the Prime does say tan in Astra Militarum so THEIRS are tanks. But the base Taurox is not.

So it would appear that the Astra Militarum one is better. Again...why I asked. It's an interesting contradiction but perhaps intentional.

Maybe he meant to say Militarum Tempestus? All these "latin" terms do tend to get confusing....
I don't have either book, though, so can't verify this potential claim.

I can't find "tank" in either the AM or MT book, main entry or summary.

Sounds like you need to update your codex

just to ask though, does the taurox or prime have an upgrade to allow it to tank shock?

most vehicles do.

sirlynchmob wrote:
just to ask though, does the taurox or prime have an upgrade to allow it to tank shock?

most vehicles do.

No, there's no such upgrade available.

Most? I can only think of Ork's Reinforced Ram and Dark Eldar Shock Prow. Are there any others?

Well... I have just the Astra Militarum printed book.

I'll look again and get a screen shot i spose. Maybe Im just seeing things. I cant do it til later, my book isn't going to be handy but if im not hallucinating, I'll post it.

Keep in mind, if you were looking at the summery, that "T" means "Transport" not tank.

 Leonus wrote:
Keep in mind, if you were looking at the summery, that "T" means "Transport" not tank.

Because "Tk" means tank. Not very clear, but that's what GW decided on.

hmm. that probably explains it then. I can see i was mistaken.

 Jancoran wrote:
hmm. that probably explains it then. I can see i was mistaken.

Never go by the summary, always go with the unit entry and/or Beastiary.

Long rules are more valid than the summaries.