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darkinnit wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:Ok, if 1.8 is being released tomorrow, I have a question.

If I upgrade to 1.8, will I still be able to play on the server, which as far as I know is remaining at 1.7.3?

Probably not, so make a backup of 1.7.3 if you want to keep playing on the server until I upgrade it. I won't be upgrading it until a few patches have been released and/or most major bugs are spotted and fixed. Although this time around they do seem to be being more cautious with the bug testing, this is a major update and there will inevitably still be some.

Do you mean copy my save files?

No, your save files are not used when you connect to the server. If you're using windows, you'd need to backup this folder:

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin

Back it up to somewhere and label it 1.7bin or something

Then after updating, backup the folder again and label it 1.8bin or something.

Then you can swap between the two.

So, If I want to swap, I just Copy Paste the 1.7/1.8 bin file back in?

Yep, that's the idea. :-)

Thanks for that Dark!

wtf server is really laggy and it just kicked me out and said flying not permmitted ?

Did you try to fly?

It does that sometimes, just let it cool down.

oh ffs because of stupid lagg i died and there wernt any mobs near me and it was daytime can i have my inventory reset dark

I tried the pre release, crashed the program a few times. Should be a bit letter cuz they've bug tested it.

JAMES.F23 wrote:oh ffs because of stupid lagg i died and there wernt any mobs near me and it was daytime can i have my inventory reset dark

Due to the way online play works, when the Minecraft.net servers are lagging, it causes lag for your connection to the server too (not sure if they keep checking authentication while you're playing). At the moment all the interest in the leaked 1.8 is hammering their login servers hard. Be warned it may get worse when 1.8 is officially released.. :-)

What time do you need your inventory reset to?

any time before 1pm yesterday cant remember exact time but thats when i was not dead due to lagg lol

JAMES.F23 wrote:wtf server is really laggy and it just kicked me out and said flying not permmitted ?

I reverted your inventory (and postition) to the time you made this post.
As for why it thought you were flying, it may have been one of the known bugs, made worse because of the lag:

Sometimes the client is slightly off on the position of other players, causing them to consistently appear slightly off of their actual position. This can cause players to appear to be inside floors or walls.

A potential issue with 1.7 maps in version 1.8: endless oceans.

While it is concerning, he does only try one 1.7 world/seed, I would have liked him to try another 1.7 world with a different seed to see if it also happened there too. Could be like he says near the end that maybe he just has a dodgy seed.

Of course there is also the issue of that being the "not finished" 1.8. They may be busy fixing that bug before official release. Who knows?

If that bug is not fixed and we do get that problem, I will probably copy across structures from our 1.7 world to a new 1.8 world, but that's a lot of work so I'd prefer to avoid it if possible, especially when it may be best to wait for them to remove the Beta label in November.


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Also see here:
https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/113289341761093632
Particulary:

1.7 worlds should get structures

It would be hard to put structures into an endless ocean :-)

I'm thinking it's some sort of elevation bug, which could explain why the sea level is 1 block lower than it's supposed to be.

If 1.8 doesn't come out today I may give it a try to see what happens.

edit: did a test. The water level does drop 1 layer, but not into an endless ocean (dropped into a ravine in the world I had). So it didn't look like there was any inherent problem with 1.8.

Haha speak of the devil. I've been running a 1.8 pre-release test server and it is an endless ocean biome.

But we are having fun, made a few small buildings on the oceans surface but mostly just living in abandoned mineshafts that we have made habitable with doors/sealing sections off.

Most noteworthy mentions are:
-there is no way to use furnaces yet without the server crashing
-Cave Spiders are scary as hell and can fit through single block gaps! They also poison you, which hurts you over time. They seem to be only able to spawn from cave spider spawners, which are surrounded by spider webs that slow your movement dramatically. Think soulsand times 10
-Endermen are just...creepy.
-New bow mechanics rule, as does the hunger bar system.
-Whenever a player dies in SMP and drops their XP, the server lags and almost grinds to a halt until the xp is removed (either by the player collecting it or by removing it with MC edit)
-Cows are now extremely resourceful, dropping multiple leather and raw beef.
-The new lighting system is pretty xD
-When a player dies, the server announces how they died (eg, "Shooms blew up" or "Shooms drowned")

Theres much more than that, and I'm sure a lot of you have already seen most of this in youtube videos, but thats all I could think of off the top of my head.

Heres a link to some screenshots of my journey so far if any of you are interested - http://s1104.photobucket.com/albums/h337/Benshooman/minecraft/

Also I will leave you with this

FINALLY a real use for boats!

I can't wait for the first mod with boats and other sailing stuff to come out!

Laodamia wrote:FINALLY a real use for boats!

I can't wait for the first mod with boats and other sailing stuff to come out!

You do know that the giant ocean biome is a bug, right? I mean I'm sure there will be oceans in 1.8 that are much larger than in previous versions, but the screenshot I posted above is just a fraction of what was hours and hours of sailing through nothing but water and small Island chains. It got a little monotonous after a while :(

Jeb's going to "release" an updated pre-release of 1.8 that should fix some of those bugs. I heard they'd definitely been working on the experience orbs bug.

I may test the updated pre-release with a backup of the Dakka world if I have time.

I'm also liking the new announcements of deaths. Now when someone dies, we can all feel sorry for them/laugh at them together. :-D

P.S. Love that last screenshot Shooms :-)

Shooms wrote:

Laodamia wrote:FINALLY a real use for boats!

I can't wait for the first mod with boats and other sailing stuff to come out!

You do know that the giant ocean biome is a bug, right? I mean I'm sure there will be oceans in 1.8 that are much larger than in previous versions, but the screenshot I posted above is just a fraction of what was hours and hours of sailing through nothing but water and small Island chains. It got a little monotonous after a while :(

Yeah I know it's a bug but still, don't you agree it would be cool exploring down a river by boat?

Laodamia wrote:Yeah I know it's a bug but still, don't you agree it would be cool exploring down a river by boat?

Oh yeah I really really do. The first hour of exploring and finding islands was kinda cool. Being scared and thinking that you might not find land, and then when all hope is lost stumbling across another Island. I also think it'd be amazing to find your first massive landmass for the first time, especially if you (like) began the game on a small Island. Unfortunately I wont be able to that that on my server. We can only hope that large ocean biomes are controlled and not nerfed by Notch.

darkinnit wrote:P.S. Love that last screenshot Shooms :-)

Haha I can laugh about it now, but lets just say that at the time it was pretty freaking terrifying!

Lego suggested we run a word cloud generator through the chat logs on the Dakka MC server. For those who don't know, word clouds basically make words bigger by how commonly used they are. After removing very common but relatively boring words, such as "the", "and" and "to" etc, I got this (caution, there are swear words in there, but they are surprisingly small)

I found my name

I also found Gooda and Grundz (haven't mentioned a few names that are already pretty visible).

Also spotted something in the bottom right-hand corner that spells out:

please
give
coal

I can also see a big SHRIKE in the middle of the cloud hahaha

...and for some reason "Forbes" is used more often than "mined".

Halo isn't there. :"(

Yeah, but the word "mine" is much bigger than "mined".

Also look for "felsi love" and "might kill lego". I also like the alignment of the words before "creepers" and "obsidian".

The word "dark" is mainly big from its real use - "it's dark I need torches" etc rather than for its use as a shortened version of my username.


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haloreach4ever wrote:Halo isn't there. :"(

tis - far left, left of the k in "ok"

Found my name, right above the word "come"

Not surprised I can't see "Iustis" Probably only been said about 4-5 times.