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I am new to the game and was looking over the ally matrix, and although necrons are not demons they don't seem like a race that grey knights or the inquisition would ally with at all

Is there fluff that would ally them?

Grey Knights are Space Marines right? You know, just like those Blood Angel fellas?

It's because of this, that it is allowed

Cause they both share their love of murdering Sisters of Battle.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Cause they both share their love of murdering Sisters of Battle.

Doesn't everyone? Space Wolves-Eldar alliances were doing it before Grey Knights made it cool.

Erm... reprogramming upon awakening?

Because if they could not, you wouldn't be able to forge a narrative between Necrons and Grey Knights fighting off Tyranids.

Remember that Necron vessel who got really close to Terra? They were not trying to invade, the Grey Knights just invited them over for some beer and a game of Blood Bowl on the widescreen.

Because they respect each other's all-silver fashion sense.

Ever read the Necron book fluff? There are so many different Necron factions and personalities. There were some that worked with Inquisitors, some just bloodthirsty, and one where the tomb computer took over all the Necrons bodies.

Even the Necron leader who made them take the Necron bodies is back and wants everyone to work together to stop the Nids.

It's exactly because the Necrons aren't Daemons that they might ally with the GK. The GK specialize in fighting the Daemonic, basically to the exclusion of all else. That is their primary, secondary and tertiary function.

So if the GK roll up to a planet that has some sort of Chaos Relic on it that is spawning out hordes of daemons and surrounded by an army of cultists, only to find that the racket has woken up the local Tomb, they'll make use of these Xenos to ensure the destruction of the daemonic, the human fools who serve it, and destroy or capture the relic.

What's more, the psychic morass of the Warp is one of the few weaknesses of the Necrons. They could easily find a common enemy against a daemonic incursion, or against certain Chaos-tainted humanoid forces.

I think Nemesor Zahndrekh, in particular, would work with Grey Knights with no problem.

And while hideously alien, the Necrons have virtually no shred of Warp-taint to them, which means that certain Inquisitors might consider them to be reasonable allies against the daemonic.

Finally, the Necrons provide an alternative to dealing with the Eldar for negotiating one's way through the Webway. It's entirely possible that the advanced (and still functional) Necron technology might even be able to repair/recreate sections of it, which could eventually lead to the galactic races no longer being reliant on traveling through the Warp to get from place to place.

Lol you guys kind of made it sound fun. This considered cheesy at all?

Smotejob wrote:I am new to the game and was looking over the ally matrix, and although necrons are not demons they don't seem like a race that grey knights or the inquisition would ally with at all

Is there fluff that would ally them?

No, but GW wants GK players' money just as much as everybody else's, so...allies.

Smotejob wrote:Lol you guys kind of made it sound fun. This considered cheesy at all?

I consider the entire allies system cheesy.

So GW can sell people models.

There is no other actual reason.

And please, stop saying Necrons worked with Inquisitors. You completely missed the point of the story if thats what you thought was going on.

I've always seen it as Necrons being a stand in for the Adeptus Mechanicus, a faction the Grey Knights have a great relationship with seeing as Titan has its own dedicated Forge World in orbit. However, everyone else seems to take the allies matrix literally.

SJ

 Seaward wrote:

No, but GW wants GK players' money just as much as everybody else's, so...allies.

So does this mean, as a Tyranid player, GW doesn't want my money?

Davor wrote:

 Seaward wrote:

No, but GW wants GK players' money just as much as everybody else's, so...allies.

So does this mean, as a Tyranid player, GW doesn't want my money?

It's because GW still hasn't forgiven you for Chapterhouse.


Yes, that was entirely your fault.

I don't know what the newCron fluff is about it, but the oldCron fluff had the Necrons constructing massive generators to reinforce the barrier between the real universe and the warp. Ever heard of the Cadian Gate? The reason that exists is the ancient Necron pylons on Cadia. If a chaos cult wants to turn a planet into a daemon world and there's a pylon network on the planet or in a nearby system they'd have to destroy it. oldCrons at least would want to stop that. The Ordo Malleus presumably would as well. Queue short lived alliance until the mutual goal has been achieved.

From a Fluff prospective, some Necrons are looking for a way to restore themselves to flesh bodies, and can offer the Grey Knights weapons that can trap Daemons forever so that they cannot come back.

Grey Knight Grand Masters (As per current Fluff) hold different alliances with each of the different xeno races. (it's in the Grand Master Fluff in the codex.)

They user tesseract vaults if I remember correctly...Which is necron tech. Given they don't care about aliens as much as daemons, it makes sense that they'd use all means at their disposal, including less than kosher alliances, to kill and stop daemons.

The allies chart is wonky as hell and everyone knows that lol. Thats why theres so many rumors that its being messed with in the 7th edition.

Eldar and Dark Eldar can ally as well....and i dont own their codices but iirc they hate each other lol.

Orks can ally with Tau, despite Tau having a big named character that is known to slaughter orks by the thousands.

Only ones that make sense are Imperial loyalists, chaos daemons/marines, and Tau not hating any loyalists but not really loving them either. The rest far as i can tell seem like total loners.

 Vineheart01 wrote:

Eldar and Dark Eldar can ally as well....and i dont own their codices but iirc they hate each other lol.

They do. But they also hate everyone else (the "lesser" races) more. And they can trust that racist arrogance implicitly, which is why they're Battle Brothers. An Eldar would rather fight back-to-back with the Dark Eldar against the thick-limbed savages that worship a corpse in a chair rather than let some ignorant monkey think they killed an Eldar and got away with it.

Orks can ally with Tau, despite Tau having a big named character that is known to slaughter orks by the thousands.

Well, it doesn't make sense for HIM to ally with Tau. But the rest of the Empire would, I'm sure, LO-O-OVE to get the orks to drink their kool-aid and put on the white sneakers and track suit.

Definitely concur that the only thing that could make Craftworld and Dark Eldar put aside their hatred is a lesser species daring to challenge them. It is their right, and theirs alone, to wipe out their misguided cousins.

Necrons are the only race that are completely incorruptible by chaos. Grey Knights are 100% about destroying chaos. It makes sense that they could briefly tolerate the presence of non-hostile Necron forces, and newcron fluff allows for Necron leaders that will treat human forces as pawns. Nobody's gonna be fist bumping, but a temporary alliance of convenience between Necrons and GKs isn't that far-fetched.

As for Orks and Tau, one of the defining characteristics of the Tau has always been their comical belief that other species can be trusted to make rational alliances. You could have a Tau force naively ally with an Ork band who have their eye on all that shiny kit the fish'eadz are carrying. It's going to end either with Ork blood getting hosed off the Crisis suits or a bunch of boyz with flash new dakka, but they could probably keep it together for at least one battle.

 welshhoppo wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Seaward wrote:

No, but GW wants GK players' money just as much as everybody else's, so...allies.

So does this mean, as a Tyranid player, GW doesn't want my money?

It's because GW still hasn't forgiven you for Chapterhouse.


Yes, that was entirely your fault.

But I, but I never bought anything from Chapter House. I complained that Spore Mines could assault in 5th edition and GW fixed my little red wagon by saying NO!

Craftworld Eldar and Dark Eldar do NOT hate eachother. They despise eachother the way two brothers - one a hippy pacifist and the other a highly decorated military veteran - might. Their relationship is NOTHING like that between High Elves and Dark Elves.