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Pask punisher with mms and lascannon
Vanquisher with mms and lascannon
Psyker (in vets)
Veteran squad
Autocannon
Vanquisher with lascannon
Vanquisher with lascannon
2k
Bikes and pask squad advance forward for range. Vanquisher squadron, vets (for backfield scoring) and thunderfires sit back and pound. Psyker presciences vanquishers.
Stormtalons go for opponents air and backfield artillery but can also go for tanks or infantry.
How about dropping a tfc for some scouts in a landspeeder storm? Could outflank them to keep up their survivability too...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ah bugger - just realised... I need a captain with bike for those bikes to be troops. So I will drop a tfc. Upgrade the libby to a cap with powersword + bike and grab 5 scouts.
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With that sorted out i would suggest ripping out the thunder fires completely.
Replace the Third Storm Talon with a storm raven giving all you need to take the Storm Wing Formation which allows all 3 flyers to com in on one reserve roll and as long as one of the talons are alive the raven has strafing run.
and then swap out the Vanquisher in Pask's unit for a Executioner w/ plasma sponsons.
Put the Vets in Chimera and drop the auto cannon (this will give them some more survivability. Stick the primaris Right behind Pask and use him to re-roll you Punisher and Execution misses
CronikCRS wrote: With that sorted out i would suggest ripping out the thunder fires completely.
Replace the Third Storm Talon with a storm raven giving all you need to take the Storm Wing Formation which allows all 3 flyers to com in on one reserve roll and as long as one of the talons are alive the raven has strafing run.
and then swap out the Vanquisher in Pask's unit for a Executioner w/ plasma sponsons.
Put the Vets in Chimera and drop the auto cannon (this will give them some more survivability. Stick the primaris Right behind Pask and use him to re-roll you Punisher and Execution misses
I'm sorry, i'm not calling you out personally but that is pretty much horrible advice all around. If he just trades out the libby for Khan he will have a disgustingly effective list as is.
No offense taken, 3 Vanquisher's is a lot of anti-tank shots. and after playing Thunderfires and Executioners I have found the single execution to be more effective at removing units than a thunderfire and its a lot harder to kill.
I stand by the suggestion to take the Storm Wing because it gives you a flyer that won't get shot out of the air by a quad gun when it hits the board.
as the far as the Vet Squad goes my current method of choice to use them has been 2x Plasma in Chimera and its been working out great for me,
these are just suggestions, but with a white scars list wouldn't bother to much with allies but you can get everything you need inside SM Codex, I also would prefer to use a Command Squad on Bikes with 5x SS and 5x Gravguns, which would be effect MC removal as well as decent at glancing out any AV on land
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Thanks for the feedback. I wouldn't be too worried about losing a talon though as I have 3 in the list and they are just there for AA and anti artillery (maybe some anti mc or troop if these arent around) purposes anyhow.
The AM is there not only for the obvious AT but also for av14 overload so heavys wont be shot at the bikes as much. The problem with a chimera is it will be a juicy target with no other grounded equivalent av in the force. If the opponent is shooting at vets with a 3+ cover due to the tf techmarine I wont be too bothered.
I see your point about an executioner over a tfc but would miss barrage on 8 shots far too much.
On a serious note, the list is very powerfull, I have one very very similar. Only big difference is that I don't have 1 TFC and the 2 Vanquishers and instead I have an Imperial Knight Errant. With so much grav and melta in your list already, a 50% chance to destroy av10-14 is nice but unnecessary and can be copied by the Errant's cannon but you also get the knight, str D weapon, a str9 large blast melta, and the threat factor that comes with it, oh, and the hammer of wrath-stomp-catostrophic damage combo in the enemies face.
edited due to an inability to spell worth a damn
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But if you don't have a knight (not saying he has all the models for this list) its a pain with its huge price tag, and really I think 1 knight is over rated as it attracts all meltas/lascannons in the bloody game!
Also "edited due to an inability to spell worth a damn" This is the truth with modern keyboards and "auto correct" pieces of sh*t.
Lol. Yeh a knight does sound sweet. I dont have the majority of the models as I collect BA, Crons and CSM (with a couple of inquisitors on the side). I have a mega ton of each of those but no scars or AM. I plan on building an AM force at some point though.
The reason I put up lists on here of armies I dont own is because I find list building a nice hobby and a good mental exercise.
Sad, I know. :-p