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2014/05/25 19:03:09
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Since officially everyone goes by the practice of "codex trumps rulebook", and the rules for D-weapons are specifically worded in the Imperial Knights codex, and this codex being only 2 months older than 7th edition, I'm willing to play Imperial Knights by their old D-weapon rules.
I understand that the new D-weapon rules in 7th edition are only meant for ranged weapons and thus got the nerfing.
Clearly if GW (which has been working on 7th edition for over 1 year) intended these to also apply to close combat, they would have published it with the Knights codex 60 days earlier.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/05/25 19:03:38
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2014/05/25 19:07:54
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Personally, I'd say that the BRB takes precedence here because of it introducing an entirely new edition with changed USR / weapon rules. D-weapons are a global rule that got changed with the new edition and therefore, I'd go with the 7th BRB.
Fingers crossed GW stops being a lazy donkey and releases FAQs soon.
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2014/05/25 19:08:38
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Since the rules are printed in the Codex, yes, until GW erratas them those would be the rules you would use.
Trying to divine GW's intent is a mug's game, though. Codexes released just before a new edition quite often contain rules that are superseded once that new edition drops.
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2014/05/25 19:21:38
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Does the new rulebook saything along the lines of "codex trumps rulebook"? did the 6th BRB have that? not sure anymore
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2014/05/25 19:32:51
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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 Sir Arun wrote:Does the new rulebook saything along the lines of "codex trumps rulebook"? did the 6th BRB have that? not sure anymore
Yes. The 'Basic vs Advanced' rules blurb specifies that where there is a conflict between codex and rulebook, you should use the codex version.
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2014/05/25 21:11:45
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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As many people have stated on many topic across dakka and internets we should have gotten the erratas already and even after then if the kngith codex is not erratad then it has to be used pwe codex.
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2014/05/25 21:24:15
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Its pretty obvious that the BRB overrides the codex in this case, seeing as how its a new edition of the rules.
However feel free to play it how you want.
Hell i have knights and im all for using the new rules. Old str D is a bit strong for regular 40k.
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2014/05/25 21:48:00
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Sweet. If D weps follow the rules in the codex, then so do my SM grav weapons which means no cover and double hull point damage. Awesome :/
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2014/05/25 21:48:46
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Grav weappons ignoring cover had nothing to do with codex rules...
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2014/05/26 01:35:17
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Why wouldn't Grav Guns still cause extra Hullpoint damage? they still do a Hullpoint and Cause an Immobilized effect, and extra immobilized effects still take off an extra hull point...
Also, I don't see what in the new rules allows tanks to take Cover Saves against Grav Weapons; it still requires Glancing and Penetrating hits to be able to take a cover/invulnerable save.
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 warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
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2014/05/26 01:44:23
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Crazyterran wrote:Also, I don't see what in the new rules allows tanks to take Cover Saves against Grav Weapons; it still requires Glancing and Penetrating hits to be able to take a cover/invulnerable save.
Have a look at the the "Vehicles and Cover - Obscured Target" rules.
It even uses Grav weapons in their example.
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2014/06/04 22:12:33
Subject: Imperial Knights still use old D-weapon rules?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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the FAQ for Knights has been posted, and it says to refer to the rulebook for D Weapons
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