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I now have finished the Dead Money, and am in Utah! I shall transform that area and shake the nuts out of their trees!

And NV is even better, than original FO3!

...Whoa, 200th page! O.O

i think so^^.... i have now stumbled upon some chineese...welll they didn´t look that ood after i punctured their faces...and guess what...now i have a snipergun... mwaahahahaha^^

I love it, Kind hearts has actual Tommy guns! Oh and street sweeper shotguns!

Don't forget the laser tommy guns. Also the funnest part of the sniper rifle is when you manage to almost without fail shoot the weapons out of their hands. Even better as while they look around for it (usually they'll try to fire an invisible rifle once ) Veronica and Rex run in and bash them instead.

Well managed to sneak in, and grab the pass cards needed to self destruct the place. Veronica complained about it in the middle of a scribe's head exploding, but luckily enough has seemed to not really cared at all after it. Since it's supposed to make you infamous enough with the faction for her to leave.

Well, I have the laser tommy guns, but the dlc has the .45cal tommy guns! and I got a drum to add to it!

Damn, just realised I don't have any of the expansions for it. -.-

All this talk of FallOut makes me want to give it a try. I really liked Oblivion, and I have to have a game that can be stopped and saved at a moments notice, kids and all (that takes online games out)...Do you think I should start with FO:1? Or got right to 3?

My comp has Vista if that matters.

*sigh* just one more thing to occupy my spare time.

FO:3- GOTY edition on steam is $20- and yes, you can save wherever, whenever.

you can get FO:1, 2, and Tactics in a bundle on Steam for $20- but they are turn-based RPGs (similar to X-com back in the day)- FO:Tactics is more like that turn-based Space Marine game for the PSP a few years back.
FO:3 and FO:NV are both 1st person shooter RPGs- you need to make sure your video card can handle it.

I LOVED X-com back in the day! and my video card leaves much to be desired. I think I'll start with 1 & 2 for now. Thanks Dave!

I need a new video card anyway, so I'll keep the requirements in mind when shopping!

Yeah, but back to KOTOR II.......

WTF is KOTOR?

Knights of the Old Republic......


Shees, get a clue Dave.....


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Oh, well my rig won't run that one, so it gets the irrelevant stamp in my brain.

Wait, your rig won't run KOTOR II but it runs FO3?


What kind of crazy non-backwards compatible contraption you bangin' on up there, Dave?

no I mean Sw:TOR, sorry

Oh, yeah, I get you. I don't actually care if I ever own a machine that plays that one....


Unless they actually put out a FO MMO, I can't see myself ever playing one.....

Well I've seen there's a mod for multiplayer NV floating around in development out there.

They all seem the same, kill 10 of these, collect 10 of these, bores me to death.

I got used to it with Maplestory as one of my first MMOs. Kill 333 green mushrooms, 333 horned mushrooms, 333 zombie mushrooms... One quest... Though that's more of an extreme it was usually around 50-100ish of whatever though it's been updated to the point where it's more 20-30ish

How is that fun?

I have no idea.
Originally before quests all the game was was grinding, this gave reason to the grinding... If you wanted to be a healer back then, well your heal was AoE and did damage to undead. With the right set up you could also gain back some mana on a magic attack. This meant that even after the quests the best way to level a healer was to find a bunch of undead monsters, stand where they spawn and hold down the heal button...

I started a bit after that, fortunately that 999 quest is a side one to get some lame title. Though other MMOs made me lazy. When I first started up WoW again after leaving about the launch of BC, killing 20 of something seemed like the most it'd ask for and it was nothing, not to mention the scenery looked a lot better. Now days though I can't be bothered really doing that.

I got tired of reading the fluff in Wow, because they were all the same IMHO.

Hate grinding

Yeh I had the problem of rushing through all the stuff after a while, then when getting somewhere having no idea what the hell I had to do.

Aye, grinding is a pain... Though that's the real purpose of nearly any MMO I've seen so far. Time killing and mindless grinding to become slightly stronger, to "pwn n00bs" slightly better... Ofcourse, there are some bright moments, but at the end it's all the same, unfortunatly.

Actually I think the eastern ones appear to be more grinding, while the western ones are more dependent on quests and quest rewards. Both seem to have the same level of story to them though.

Quest grinding is almost the same. And modern "Korean" MMOs have tons of fairly decent quests nowadays. You just cant sell MMO if you don't have quests in it this days

I guess so, one's like "Go kill 50-100 of this" while the other is like "Kill 20 of this", "Good, oh I forgot kill 15 of this, in the same place", "Thanks, now find the thing those two were guarding", "Great, now take it back there and activate it"...

Games like Dragon's Nest would probably prove your point, not really all that grindy at all.

Well, I must say, that I've enjoyed most of MMOs I've played until the max lvl... Lvling is always fun, if there are some good quests, not-so-disturbing PvP and, which is most important for me, an interesting setting.