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So my friend gives his chaos lord terminator armor and now the dude is nearly impossible to kill, especially as it also has the additional toughness with mark of nurgle.

We were playing today and I used one of the psychic powers, beam type attack, no ap or anything. I am wonderful if terminator armor actually blocks psyker attacks as well or if they take the hit? If it does, what's the point of artificer armor?

Same game, hellbrute fires missile launcher at the rear if a rhino at max range, though the rhino is facing with front armor at brute, does the missile actually hit the rear armor even though the unit can't actually see it?

Guy at gw store today says my da rhinos can have two guys shooting out of top hatch, is this any weapon I want, for example a bolter and a missile launcher, assuming that the rhino hasn't moved, brb says I only get one shot from one guy, which do I follow?

Zodiark wrote:
So my friend gives his chaos lord terminator armor and now the dude is nearly impossible to kill, especially as it also has the additional toughness with mark of nurgle.

We were playing today and I used one of the psychic powers, beam type attack, no ap or anything. I am wonderful if terminator armor actually blocks psyker attacks as well or if they take the hit?

if you mean does he get an armor save, the answer is yes.

If it does, what's the point of artificer armor?

to give a model a 2+ armor save. Terminator armor does more than just a 2+ armor save BTW.

Same game, hellbrute fires missile launcher at the rear if a rhino at max range, though the rhino is facing with front armor at brute, does the missile actually hit the rear armor even though the unit can't actually see it?

how was the missile fired at the back? all shots are resolved against the facing the firing model is in if it is visible.

Guy at gw store today says my da rhinos can have two guys shooting out of top hatch, is this any weapon I want, for example a bolter and a missile launcher, assuming that the rhino hasn't moved, brb says I only get one shot from one guy, which do I follow?

Check the rules for Rhino's in whatever codex you are using. some let more than one person fire out of the fire point.

Look into the attacks profile. Strength and AP values. If the AP value is 3+ on the attack, he can do his 2+ saves. Unless, of course, it is stated that no saves are allowed.

How did you shoot at the rear of said rhino if its front is facing towards your helbrute? You hit what you can see. In other words, you hit the side of the vehicle facing you.

You can shoot out the top hatch. 2 Models can fire their weapons from there. Be it a bolter on rapid fire (Range<12" and a Missile launcher or whichever weapons you prefer (and have).

Cheers

What if he aims at front, scatter dice moves it to hit rear?

Depending on what you shot. Unless it was barrage, the hit will come from whichever side is facing the weapon.

Barrage hits will come from the center of the blast

Now I'm confused again lol. So he places blast marker for missile launcher on the rhino rear which apparently he cannot do, he would need to place it at the front of the model as this is the side facing him.

If the weapon scatters say, 3 inches and hits the rear armor rather than the front, is this legit and then do we do wounds based on rhinos rear armor?

Zodiark wrote:
Now I'm confused again lol. So he places blast marker for missile launcher on the rhino rear which apparently he cannot do, he would need to place it at the front of the model as this is the side facing him.

If the weapon scatters say, 3 inches and hits the rear armor rather than the front, is this legit and then do we do wounds based on rhinos rear armor?

Where the blast ends up on the rhino has no bearing on which facing you roll against. you always roll against the facing the firer is looking at (and if its barrage it's side armor regardless of LoS)

barrage specifically states it always hits the side armor, even if it scatters to the rear. Also any blast weapon only hits the side the weapon ur pointing at it is facing, even if it scatters to the rear, you will ALWAYS hit the side your facing.

Hi there,

When firing a template weapon that has no extra special rules (such as barrage or odanance) the enemy targets the rhino andany pointhe can see (so he can aim at the very back of the rhino but only on the top, not the rear!)

if he manages to score a hit, it is resloved against the armour facing where he is shooting from (in your case the front). he has to roll against the front armour when determining whether or not he has penatrated.

If the blast scatters and the template still hits the back or side for example, it is still the front armour he will be trying to get through. This changes if the weapon has barrage, as the hit is classed as being hit from the centre of the template!

Terminator armour provides the model with a 2+ save and a 5++ (invulnerable save).

To ignore his 2+ save, you need to look for weapons that are have an AP of 2 or less. So plasma guns are AP2 and melta guns are AP1. Both will prevent him from getting the 2+ save and only allow him to have a 5+ save.

Hope this helps!

When the Blast template scattered, the Rhino is still hit as long as a part of the template covers any part of the Rhino. However, the Armour Facing used to determine Armour Penetration is the one that faced the firer.

This is not necessarily the case for Barrage-type weapons, which also utilise blast templates. It would be worth your time reading those rules in your Rulebook, too.

draegen wrote:
barrage specifically states it always hits the side armor, even if it scatters to the rear. Also any blast weapon only hits the side the weapon ur pointing at it is facing, even if it scatters to the rear, you will ALWAYS hit the side your facing.

Oops. I completely forgot that part about barrage against vehicles :v. I guess that happens when you use Sisters (no access to barrage weapons )

Cheers

A nurgle chaos lord in terminator armour is quite tough to kill!
As well as special weapons with low AP like BluffReggie says you could try using something like a vindicator on him. Hitting him with a demolisher cannon blast which has strength 10 can cause instant death on him, assuming he fails his 5+ invulnerable save.

K I get how the hit is determined, now after the blast scatters, it hits the back of the Rhino but we calculate wounds based on front armor.

If a marine was standing behind it and was then under the blast template, would he get hit as well?

Yes. Blasts hit everything underneath them.