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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 17:53:23
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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This is a list I'm building for an all comers 600 Points Imperial Guard List. What do you think?
HQ:
Pask in a punisher
Executioner /w 3 Plasma Cannons
Troops:
10 Veterans /w an autocannon
10 Veterans /w an autocannon
Heavy support:
Wyvern
What do you guys think? Quite low on numbers but can be pretty devastating, especially with pask in 600 points. Let me know, comments and criticisms how can I improve? Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 17:59:06
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
Uxbridge UK
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HQ Ethereal
2x 6 Firewarriors
2x Riptide with Ion Accelorater and FNP
598 and I would put Ethereal and FWs in Reserve
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 18:01:30
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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Pask has 20 twinlinked rending shots, and plasma wouldn't do to bad against them either. armour 14 would be tough for you too. and wyvern would make short work of any fire warriors that come in reserve
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 18:42:10
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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HQ
Destroyer Lord 125
Troops
Warriors x5 + Night Scythe 165
Warriors x5 + Night Scythe 165
Fast Attack
Canoptek Wraiths x4 + Particle Caster x1 145
The Wraiths go with the Lord as a unit, at the front so that the 3++ soaks up the rending and Plasma. Everything revolves around taking out your tanks first. And with the Punisher's 24" range, you probably only have a single round of shooting before the tanks are toast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 18:55:29
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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If I came up against that list I wouldn't deploy 12" on first off, I'd also surround them in infantry to prevent you getting any sort of charge on them, considering your only starting with 1 unit on the board, those guard are still going to be there by the time you reach the tanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 19:32:25
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Hmm, true. How about this:
HQ:
Overlord + Catacomb Command Barge + Phase Shifter + Gauntlet of Fire 220
Troops
Warriors x5 + Harbinger of the Storm (Voltaic Staff) + Night Scythe 190
Warriors x5 + Harbinger of the Storm (Voltaic Staff) + Night Scythe 190
The Barge needs only keep out of the way of Pask, who has the only chance of scoring a Penetrating hit, which won't be so difficult considering 24" range, and can always elect to take hits on the Lord's 3++ if need be. The Night Scythes drop near the tanks.
Admittedly, I'm not sure how certain 5 warriors and a voltaic staff are of killing the tanks. With both Scythes coming on turn 2, I think there should be a good chance of taking out the Leman Russes though, at which point the Barge lord can mop up with impunity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 19:43:40
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Executing Exarch
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Autarch-Mantle, bike, fusion gun, laser lace, banshee mask.
Dire avengersX5: Serpent w/scatters, holos, shuricannon
Dire avengersX5: Serpent w/scatters, holos, shuricannon
Shadow weaver
Hide the shadow weaver out of sight, using it to snipe the autocannons out of your squads. Get side armor on the wyvern to take it out, autarch meltas and assaults the pask squad to destroy it. Won't win in a headon gunfight, but using terrain and speed it should do well.
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The most important rule of 40K-Page XVII of the 6th edition rulebook, the figure at the top right of the page. "Shake hands with your opponent and thank them for a good battle and fun experience." Then go out for a beer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 19:45:36
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Nothing can hide from the Wyvern, ignores cover, barrage, 48" range. The shadow weaver would probably be toast if you didn't take it out in time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 19:54:39
Subject: Re:600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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HQ Vulkan
T1 7 Tact w/ meltagun, combi-melta, drop pod w/ missiles
T2 5 tact w/ melta, combi-melta, drop pod
T3 5 tact w/ flamer, combi flamer, drop pod
drop everything in your face and pop the tanks
Vulkan has 7 extra wounds
flame pod takes care of the vets...
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"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving on." ~Ulysses S. Grant
2k
Raven guard 2k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 19:59:21
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Alternatively
HQ
Nemesor Zahndrekh 185
Cryptek + Abyssal Staff + Veil of Darkness 60
Troops
Immortals 170
Warriors x6 + Night Scythe 178
OR
Warrios x14 182
Warriors x5 + Night Scythe 165
Nemesor Z and Cryptek with the Immortals, hang right over in the corner edge, behind cover or out of range as much as possible if going second. On their first turn they Veil in behind or to the side of the Leman Russes. Nemesor Z gives the unit Tank Hunters- that is a very dead pair of tanks. Or they can just avoid as much as possible until the Night Scythe can come in to deal with the Wyvern in the same turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 20:06:46
Subject: Re:600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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C:SM CT:IH
HQ
Master of the Forge
Troops
Scout squad (5 guys)
Tactical squad (10 guys) melta gun, combi melta, drop pod
Heavy
Land Raider, multimelta
600 points
MotF with scouts in the land raider, Tactical squad in pod. Pod squad goes for pask, land raider for the wyvern.
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I play Space Marines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Chaos Space Marines, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Orks, Adepta Sororitas, 'Nids, Necrons, Tau and Grey Knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 20:11:24
Subject: Re:600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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TC- Vanquisher with LC
Vanquisher with LC
10 vets
10 vets
Deathstrike
600
Veterinary reserve
Vanquishers out range you and kill pask first.
Deathstrike fan ruin anyone's day.
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All anyone wants in the world is to be accepted. Except me, i don't give a S%@t.
Armies of Mixer
WHFB-Ogres, WoC, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Tzeentch Daemons, OnG
40K- Tau,Guard, Nids, SM, BA, GK, IK, DW
The Hobbit/LOTR- Evil, Angmar, Mordor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 20:28:50
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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I love how this was originally a comment and criticism post haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 20:31:14
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Well, the title was 'can you beat it'?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 20:33:12
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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It says in my first post about comments and criticisms, I prefer the post like this anyway, quite interesting to see lists that are designed to beat my army, in a tourney however it's not realistically going to see any of these list bar maybe 1 or 2 as people will tailor all comers lists
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 20:57:50
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Well in this case, how about swapping Pask's Punisher for an Exterminator? Still a very good choice for Pask, and is a little bit better at taking out flyers, and you may well face a flyer, especially something like a Night Scythe. More likely still FMCs. Nonetheless it retains it's utility against ground targets. With the 10 points you save you can then either buy a Lascannon for Pask, or a grenade launcher for each Vet squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 21:15:47
Subject: Re:600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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I would run my list in a tournament. Who prepares for an IWND land raider with a MotF inside at 600 points?
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I play Space Marines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Chaos Space Marines, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Orks, Adepta Sororitas, 'Nids, Necrons, Tau and Grey Knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 21:31:25
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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@God In Action, I considered it, but Pask in a punisher is devastating, I'm not sure if you've seen him in action, but his ability to simply decimate most things he looks at is amazing.
@Erick99, Most necron lists can deal with a Land raider and trust me, last time I went to the tourney, there were a lot of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 21:40:00
Subject: Re:600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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I never said I'd win. I'd also use this at a tournament:
Lord Commissar
Platoon 1
PCS
Infantry squad x2
50 conscripts
Platoon 2
PCS infantry squad x2
41 conscripts
598 points
Because why not? But I've found people rarely expect Av14 in small games, though I didn't think about necrons...
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I play Space Marines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Chaos Space Marines, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Orks, Adepta Sororitas, 'Nids, Necrons, Tau and Grey Knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 22:59:25
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
Canada
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librarian
techmarine full servo harness, pfg
land raider with deathwing upgrade
1x 5 scouts sniper rifles with HB
1x6 scouts HB, bolters
598/600
techmarine and servitors ride around in the land raider. the land raider itself has 4++ (this is now legal as of the latest faq), re-roll pens, and the tech and company and disembark and repair on a 5+
the scouts hand back and pluck what targets they can from range but tbh i could care less if they die
librarian also rides in the land raider and has pyromancy as their magic with some luck i get molten beam
my land raider will be impervious to your tanks and could single handedly kill the lot of them. leaving your veterans without anywhere to hide from its violent metallic wrath
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DA army: 3500pts,
admech army: 600pts
ravenguard: 565 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 23:28:04
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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The Landraider is not impervious to the Pask Punisher, which with addtional +d3 rending penetration can glance AV14. But sure, it's not ideal for taking out AV14.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/04 23:39:55
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Farseer on Jetbike
Warlock
5x Dire avengers in wave serpent
3x Jetbikers
3x War walker w/ 2 Bright lances
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/05 09:42:00
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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I think the strongest Eldar list I've made at 600 was:
Spiritseer
5 Dire Avengers /w wave serpent kitted out
5 Dire Avengers /w wave serpent kitted out
Fire prism
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/05 09:48:28
Subject: Re:600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Youy can't take pask without the second tank. He's a tank commander - he's obliged to be in a squadron, so, 2 tanks minimum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/05 10:00:57
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Furious Fire Dragon
Peterborough, England.
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Who is that aimed at?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/05 10:17:12
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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I would either go with my fun 600 list, which is:
Lord w/ Sempi-Weave and Res Orb (tanks shots)
Mini-lord (dem ap3 shots)
2 lots of 10 immortals, one unit with Gauss and other with Tesla
Annihilation Barge
ORR you could go super massive 'feth you!' to opponent and go for:
Overlord, MSS, WS, SW, PS, CCB, ResOrb(285 points of pure rage and semi-brokeness)
2 lots of 5 warriors
2 Annihilation Barges
Fits nicely at 595
Actual C&C for your list, the vets will be taken out in very short order, unless you hide them away near the back, in which case they won't do much good. Pask is good, but may be a bit much for such a low points game, as he won't usually make his points back (don't quote me on that, haven't played against him, only seen his rules).
I personally think you'd be better off demoting him to a standard TC and getting extra gubbinz on various units.
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Bad luck?! Schmad luck!
Kain wrote:
WMG: The last ever story of 40k will finally hit M42; only to reveal that Trazyn has completed his greatest heist; stuffing the entire universe into a hyper-pocket.
Thus ending the true and grandest conflict of 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/05 12:16:38
Subject: 600 Points of Astra Militarum, can you beat it?
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Assault Kommando
Flint, Mi
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2 Exterminators w/ H bolters & H stubbers 310
2 Vanquishers w/lascannons 290
600
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