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**chuckyhol**

I'm trying to call him tonight.

Chuck

**whitedragon**

Well, we seem to have gotten rid of the Shill at least.

**blood angel**

I said my piece and it spawned some element of constructiveness. Another section of the board where people can post their complaints and praises about their purchases on the net would be nice.

**Green Bloater**

This thread is unprofessional and has no place on a forum such as Dakka Dakka. Basically it comes across as a bunch of thugs harrassing someone.

- Greenie

**Hellfury**

Posted By Delephont on 03/06/2007 2:23 PM
Ok folks, heres a quick update for those that are interested. This is, to me , conclusive evidence that Robert is a liar and quite possibly a cheat!

When I originally asked him via email to confirm the shipping of my item he came back to me with a tracking number CP202353584US , when I tried this tracking number with th emost obvious delivery agents, Royal Mail, International Parcel Force, and USPS they all came back with an unknown tracking number response. Thats when I knew something was wrong!

Anyway, as some of you will know, I raised a complaint with Paypal, and ( I guess to buy himself more time ) his reponse to the paypal investigation was a tracking number and the delivery agent! The agent he listed was USPS and the number CP217402785US

Well, trying this "new" tracking number with USPS, and surprise surprise, USPS has never heard of it!

So not only did he originally lie about sending the item in the first place and giving me a bogus tracking number, he tries to lie a second time, and by contradicting the original number!!! Is this guy an idiot or what? does he think I won't check with the original information? or with USPS for that matter? As far as I'm concerned Paypal or my Credit Card company can bury this clown.....

And for anyone in doubt, I have a copy of his original mail and the response to Paypal....STEER CLEAR of DZ!

Not that this is true, but had a similar problem with robert as well.

But it was because it does take 24 - 48 hours for the code to be registered by USPS for anything to pop up.

If it has been sent very recently, then they wont have any record of that, if it has been sent, say for instance, last week, then they should have record of it.

Not saying you or him are lying, but there are other facts such as dates that do need to be considered for the tracking code.

**syr8766**

Posted By Green Bloater on 03/06/2007 7:09 PM
This thread is unprofessional and has no place on a forum such as Dakka Dakka. Basically it comes across as a bunch of thugs harrassing someone.

- Greenie

And here's the proof!

**mikhaila**

Posted By Green Bloater on 03/06/2007 7:09 PM
This thread is unprofessional and has no place on a forum such as Dakka Dakka. Basically it comes across as a bunch of thugs harrassing someone.

- Greenie

Quite the contrary. The thug is the etailer in question. He advertises on Dakka, posts a lot in Dakka threads, pitches his wares on Dakka, and yet can't seem to ship the items to the customers on Dakka that order from him. He is ignoring attempts to contact him, yet has time to post in threads.

The Thug is the person who took peoples money, the victims are the people that trusted him, and have nothing to show for their money.

The person being unprofessional is the one who sells games as a profession, takes the money, and doesn't ship the product, or reply to customer concerns.
Of course this belongs on Dakka, unless you think it's OK for Robert to use Dakka to sell, but customers can't use it to warn other people about his business practices?

**BZArcher**

I'd like to add my voice to people having problems with TDZ.

He did eventually make it right, but not before the items I was supposed to be getting were sent to the wrong address twice, and returned to him, and I had to spend well over 3 weeks trying to track him down. I got what may or may not have been a sob story about his father in law being in the hospital, which was why there had been so many mistakes.

I did finally receive my stuff, but I would not recommend TDZ to anyone else.

**insaniak**

Posted By BZArcher on 03/06/2007 7:51 PM
I got what may or may not have been a sob story about his father in law being in the hospital, which was why there had been so many mistakes.

For what it's worth, there is a note on his website at the moment that says that he's had a death in the family...

**bigchris1313** · Posted By Green Bloater on 03/06/2007 7:09 PM I'm a troll Fixed your typo.

Posted By Green Bloater on 03/06/2007 7:09 PM
I'm a troll

Fixed your typo.

**Delephont**

Posted By Green Bloater on 03/06/2007 7:09 PM
This thread is unprofessional and has no place on a forum such as Dakka Dakka. Basically it comes across as a bunch of thugs harrassing someone.

- Greenie

You Sir, are a joke.

**ancientsociety**

Uh, CP202353584US is NOT a USPS #.

USPS Delivery Confirmation never has letters in it. It's also a much longer number split into sections of 4 numbers. I'm fairly sure the only "tracking" code that the USPS uses that has any form of letters is a customs slip. It also isn't a UPS number since a UPS # would be much longer as well.

**Furious**

I hope everyone gets their problems resolved with TDZ.

For the record, I ordered over the telephone from Neal at the Warstore on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 and received my order on Tuesday, March 6, 2007 (seven days). My order was 100% correct and I experienced no billing problems. Customer service was great.

I agree with Trolly to some extent. I don't feel it is appropriate to post someone's personal contact information so openly - even if it appears they have wronged you. I think it would have been better to share that information with other people via PM or e-mail, but not here. I understand the frustration and the desire to help one another, but posting the offical contact numbers publicly would have been the best thing to do.

I would like to praise Manahannin for having the stones to keep this thread open. Some boards wouldn't have allowed any criticizm of an advertisor occur - whether is was deserved or not. Thanks, Man.

Hopefully TDZ will have the opportunity to clear his name. It looks like he has an uphill battle and he does deserve that chance.

**Mannahnin**

Thanks Furious (though just as much credit goes to Yakface and the others, of course). We tend to value free exchange of ideas and information quite a bit around here, though we do want people to TRY being polite and keeping their language at a PG level. Keep it constructive.

I'm sorry this is happening, and I hope nothing awful has happened in Robert's life, but the core complaint is one I have to agree with. If you're running a business and have time to post on forums but not to respond to customer emails, that's something I can't see an excuse for.

**chuckyhol**

The thing is, if he sends out in the next day or two that's fine. I just NEED the miniatures. I'm in a 1500pt tournament on the 17th of this month, and I need the minis for it. Luckily they're necrons so they can be assembled and painted in a day or two, but I'm not REALLY in the mood for last-minute-painting.

Chuck

**chuckyhol**

Edited to sound less like a spoilt little kid.

Chuck

**Green Bloater**

Well at least I am Sir Joke.

But seriously I think this has gone way too far. I think anyone reading the thread would hesitate to purchase anything at all from him.

- Greenie

**chuckyhol**

Posted By Green Bloater on 03/07/2007 7:03 PM

But seriously I think this has gone way too far. I think anyone reading the thread would hesitate to purchase anything at all from him.

Good.

**stonefox**

Boy, I thought Internet Detectives only existed in SA. I'll be sure not to piss any of you guys off.

Anyway, good luck with TDZ, chuck.

**chuckyhol**

I wouldn't be quite so pissed off if he admitted he had a problem, and stopped taking people's money. As it stands, he's like an alcoholic who won't admit he has a problem, and keeps missing his kids little league games.

NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Chuck

**Delephont**

Lets face it guys....This thread has been running for a while now, we know that slow has been on here posting in threads and leaving comments elsewhere! You'd have to be blind not to see a thread dedicated to your name sake.

He has had ample chance to respond to each of us either by PM or by email or even here on the thread. I have been careful thus far not to label this character a crook and a liar, but its plain to see what type of person this guy is.

I will persue what-ever legal means availible to bury this clown.

**chuckyhol**

Agreed. I'm giving him a little more time, but i'm getting more sick of no contact and no miniatures every day.

**Achilles**

Caveat Emptor baby...

**chuckyhol**

Hurrah!

"I was out of the store attending my grandmothers funeral. I am now back in the store and will get all orders shipped out by friday i apologise for the delay."

Posted last night on his website.

Chuck

**Delephont**

Hi Chuck

I hate to dampen your hope, but please think back to my "ongoing" paypal dispute. According to his response to the investigation he already sent my stuff, not to mention the email I recieved two weeks ago stating he'd sent my stuff!

Wow, so I guess he's going to send it again?!?! Maybe he sends the stuff out on a rubber band, and just as the delivery guy goes to post it through the letter box...BLAM...back it goes....

**chuckyhol**

Hah, I hope not. I've repeatedly asked for a confirmation number, or even any email stating he's sent...nothing so far.

**chuckyhol**

Today I called Robert's store, The Drop Zone. Luckily, i got him straight away.

He said my stuff was sent yesterday afternoon, and he gave me a confirmation number. While the number doesn't give anything (there is no information regardnig this number or something similar on USPS) the lady told me that it IS the confirmation number for SOME package.

Either way, it should be here Tuesday or Wednesday. Hopefully everything will work out.

Chuck

**Delephont**

Dude, good luck and I wish you all the best.........if at least one of gets their goods than thats a good start!

**Flagg07**

I sent a few trades out yesterday too. All of their tracking #'s say something.

1) Your item was delivered at 11:24 AM on March 10, 2007 in TRENTON, NJ 08690.

2) Your item was processed and left our JERSEY CITY, NJ 07097 facility on March 9, 2007. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

I would think that there'd be something similar if it did go out yesterday. Hopefully this isn't something to shut you up for a week or so. Keep us informed. I'm very interested in how this all plays out.

**chuckyhol**

Yeah, in my experience they've said something too. However, a few things leave me with a glimmer of hope.

1) He might do his own postage, then do drop offs. He must do a ton of trades, so its likely he has the "print out at home and drop at PO". I've no experience with that, but it may mean that the normal info doesn't get updated on the delivery confirmation thing.

2) I called USPS tracking service, and they said that it was indeed a valid number for a package, and sometimes no info at all comes up.

I dunno. I'll wait till Thursday of next week to start worrying.

Chuck