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2009/04/19 09:37:44
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Did 300 not teach you anything?
Sparta!
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2009/04/19 10:58:35
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Movie Spartan owns everyone.
IRL Vikings.
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2009/04/19 11:55:19
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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smiling Assassin wrote:Did 300 not teach you anything?
Sparta!
sA
yes a cool film with lots of "suppressed" Homoerotic undertones 
(No seriously, was a very cool film  )
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2009/04/19 13:04:05
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Fireknife Shas'el
A bizarre array of focusing mirrors and lenses turning my phrases into even more accurate clones of
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halonachos wrote:That stereotype is NOT true I tell you, not true!
What stereotype? I heard they had long spears. Not as long as Alexander's hoplites, but they aren't compensating for anything.
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2009/04/19 15:09:43
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Yellin' Yoof
Dont got one :(
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Whoa! I voted for Viking but i must admit i thought that everybody would vote for spartan.
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2009/04/20 00:16:38
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Spartans were born and bred to kill.
Vikings weren't, but were prodigiously good at it, regardless. Last I checked the Spartans didn't strike terror in the hearts of people from the Arctic down to North-Africa (and IIRC, as far as Russia and possibly America, too) for a few centuries...
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2009/04/20 03:35:50
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Serious Squig Herder
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Vikings were strong as well as tough, just what you need for fighting. Not a lot scared them and they could fight well even on their own. They didn't have any special techniques other than 'beat the living poo out of the enemy.'
Spartans were strong, and essentially traded toughness for battle tactics. You have to remember that Spartans fought in Phalanxes. They weren't so hot on their own.
So a Viking against a Spartan, 1-on-1, would result in the Viking coming out on top. However, a mob of Vikings against a phalanx of Spartans would result in the Spartans winning, this is because the Spartans are trained to work together, but Vikings just grouped up and charged in hoping for the best.
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2009/04/20 04:00:52
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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300 Spartans take on about 4 times as many Persians? Totally Awesome
Vikings, though, appeal to my style of warfare. Get drunk, prepare for war, run in screaming, and either die trying or come out victorious.
If you ask me, a Spartan could beat a Viking 1-on-1. We seem to forget that a viking wasn't a full time soldier. A viking raided when his warlord commanded, whereas a Spartan was a professional soldier. From age 7, A spartan started to learn the arts of waging war. A viking, on the other hand, lead the raider's life. The vikings had numbers and speed on their side. A Spartan fought in protracted combats.
The Viking also was undisciplined, a hardy fighter, but as earlier stated they charged in and hoped for the best. More often than not, a headlong charge can prove fatal. A Spartan, on the other hand, had the principles of discipline forced upon him.
Also, it's not like Spartans have never fought up close with swords. They mainly used the phalanx formation, but it's not like they haven't drawn swords.
Of course, nothing beats pirates
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Some people play to win, some people play for fun. Me? I play to kill toy soldiers.
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2009/04/20 04:21:00
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Vikings didn't actually just go "Waaagh!" and charge into the enemy's sword. That's ridiculous, they knew how to fight quite well, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to do anything near what they did.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/04/20 05:23:17
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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Right, Orkeosaurus, but they weren't as well trained as a Spartan. The Viking was more reckless. They wouldn't charge into the enemy's sword, but they would charge straight forward. All I'm saying is that the spartan would have a better understanding of hand-to-hand tactics. The Viking would focus more on brute force.
Overall, both are great warriors.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/04/20 05:24:59
Some people play to win, some people play for fun. Me? I play to kill toy soldiers.
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WHFB, AoS, 40k, WM/H, Starship Troopers Miniatures, FoW
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2009/04/20 05:50:58
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Spartans were well trained in fighting with shields in a phalanx. Remember 300? The shield of the Spartan next to you is as important as your own.
Spartans would not make it in 1 on 1 combat. There is no other shield to protect them. He'd be outflanked if he tried to use his favored style of fighting.
A Spartan would not have a better understanding of combat in this situation, it's not something that Spartan warfare emphasised. Vikings had experience with single combat. They wouldn't charge straight forward to their deaths, unless we're specifically talking about berserkers.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/04/20 11:29:17
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Ulven wrote:Vikings all the way! Got the blood in me...
lol thats a good 1
You do realise all that total invasion and migration bs which used to be in history books has all been comfirmed bs now. Meaning the vikings/celts/romans didnt just all get wiped out by the saxons, leave etc. they actually settled. Meaning if you have any british roots you have a fair chance of having viking blood in you.
So basicly your not particularly special.
On topic. Greeks aren't much good for anything nowadays except disgusting food you can only bear after ten pints and having largely unpronouncable names. So I'd vote Vikings on that basis.
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2009/04/20 15:01:00
Subject: Re:Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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OK yes the Spartans had the phalanx going for them. But do yoo really think that a group of viking's be would be dumb enough to charge a phalanx? Wouldn't they just lob flaming debris on top of the Spartans or something?
GG
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2009/04/20 15:32:41
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Cryonicleech wrote:Of course, nothing beats pirates
Weren't Vikings pirates as well as Vikings? I mean, consummate sailors? Check. Bloodthirsty? Check? Out for gold? Check. What else do you need to qualify as a pirate?
So, pirate = hard, but viking = pirate + Norseman. Pirate + x > pirate. Right? (Well, most vikings were Danish, but you get the point, right?)
Also, if memory serves, one of the reason vikings were so succesful as raiders/fighting forces was the... Viking shield wall. Well-discipled troops, using shields and spears. Sound familiar?
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2009/04/20 16:30:15
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vikings win.
Both rely on shields for defense. Line of Spartans and line of Vikings engage, shields are locked up. And, then, the Spartans are overcome by a wave of nausea and collapse due to the stench of the Vikings. They don't bathe, they're at sea for months at a time - I mean, in the history of smelling bad, the Vikings have to be near the top.
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2009/04/20 16:35:06
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Actually, vikings in England usually bathed every week.
Which probably puts them in the top 10% for medieval hygiene.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/04/20 16:43:38
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Vikings were actually "trained" to fight with all forms of weapons.
The popular conception of axe wielding maniac should be tempered with the fact that they could use the axe to pull a sword from an enemies grip or lock a spear and snap it.
They were highly organised when they needed to be.
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2009/04/20 22:20:13
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Again, they were one of the few ancient armies to harness the power of a naked guy.
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2009/04/21 12:55:44
Subject: Re:Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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I had no idea that a half asleep musing at 1.30am would spawn such a beast of a thread. Nice to see Vikings winning the vote so far  .
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The world needs wannabes.
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2009/04/21 13:15:54
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Vikings drank beer. It takes a lot of beer to get drunk
Spartans drank wine. Much easier to get soused.
Spartans for the win.
Vikings ate Manly beef and bread with butter
Spartans ate girly man sheep and goats.
Vikings for the win.
Young Viking chicks-HAWT!
Young Greek chicks-HAWT!
We all win!
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2009/04/21 13:38:03
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Vikings had boats FTW.
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2009/04/21 16:49:03
Subject: Re:Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I know that this was touched on before, but the Vikings have a PRO football team, and the Spartans just have a college football team from the Big Ten.
I mean there not even from a powerhouse conference like the SEC.
GG
p.s. go Gators!!
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2009/04/22 14:10:35
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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But, the vikings are a horrible football team.
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2009/04/23 02:14:41
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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dietrich wrote:Vikings win.
Both rely on shields for defense. Line of Spartans and line of Vikings engage, shields are locked up. And, then, the Spartans are overcome by a wave of nausea and collapse due to the stench of the Vikings. They don't bathe, they're at sea for months at a time - I mean, in the history of smelling bad, the Vikings have to be near the top.
Frazzled wrote:Vikings drank beer. It takes a lot of beer to get drunk
Spartans drank wine. Much easier to get soused.
Spartans for the win.
Both wrong. Vikings LOVED their mead. The also washed their faces and hands each morning, and had a bath weekly (Presuming they were not at sea. Vikings win anywho. How many Melodic Death metal songs are sung about Spartans? Ninjas? Samurai? Amon Amarth and Ensiferum FTW!
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2009/04/23 19:06:06
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Ah mead. The Viking rum. Frazzled likey!!!!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2009/05/07 05:41:50
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well, on the Deadliest Warrior, Samurai beat Viking, Ninja beat Samurai, and Spartan beat Ninja...
Spartans went through 20 years of military training, school, and physical training...They actually knew instant kill spots on the body and every blow was a killing blow...
As much as I like Vikings (My family is from Norway), and have studied them and reenacted, etc,,,,Spartans would win...
Spartans are like Samurai & Vikings combined IMHO....
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2009/05/07 06:47:04
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Deadliest Warrior is so stupid, you have to reverse the system.
Seriously, that show has no idea what it's talking about. The match ups don't even make any sense. Ninja vs Spartan? What the feth?
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/05/07 07:48:10
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
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Viking if he was high on mushrooms.
Spartan if you happened to slip while getting undressed, land in a barrel of olive oil while at the same time drop your clothes behind a heavy metal grate that slams closed and it's just a bit too heavy to lift but not quite heavy enough that you won't try... 
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2009/05/07 08:34:28
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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ixlar wrote:Also, that 300 movie was so far from what really happened in that battle it is scary.
REALLY?! You mean there were no hand grenades, mutants with swords for arms, war rhinos or giants?
Please continue, Doctor History...
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2009/05/07 15:49:29
Subject: Who's harder, a Viking or a Spartan?
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Fireknife Shas'el
A bizarre array of focusing mirrors and lenses turning my phrases into even more accurate clones of
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Tek wrote:ixlar wrote:Also, that 300 movie was so far from what really happened in that battle it is scary.
REALLY?! You mean there were no hand grenades, mutants with swords for arms, war rhinos or giants?
Please continue, Doctor History...
No, all of that was true. There was no hunchback who was dismissed and felt like he needed to get back at his wrongdoers.
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