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athba wrote:Jack -at no point did i release your details on this thread - you chose to reveal yourself.

I was seeking advice re this trade but keeping your id quite for the moment.

I look forward to receiving my items.

Just to clarify i sent payal payment on the 27th June - i think i am within reason to say that is a month.

Anyway - i'll let you know when i receive items.

Yes, I chose to reveal myself because I didn't want the shame of you doing it.

This is what I put in the package: 1 lobba, 1 Zapp Gunn, 5 grotz (?), and a bunch of metal ork arms.

Have fun with them ( I assume you'll game with them) and I'm glad we sorted this issue out.

All the best.

Cheers,

Jack.

Blightdron wrote:Ahh, I see you made a complaint about me.

And deservedly so!

Blightdron wrote:Considering I posted in on Saturday I think this thread should be locked.

You would be wrong. This thread should be locked when one of two things happens:
- the OP gets his money back
- the OP gets the goods that he paid for

Just because you don't want others to know the facts that you suck as a trading partner, that's not a reason to lock the thread.

Blightdron wrote:It generally is not my problem that I had to take an emergancy trip to my father's.

Naturally, you'll be able to prove that, and this isn't just the standard lame-o excuse that "I / someone I love was sick" to deflect the heat?

I've seen so many variations of this excuse, and all of them lame, unless you've got a dated hospital record as proof, I think it's no better than claiming the dog ate your homework.

Blightdron wrote:And neither is it that my mum didn't post the parcel.

So now, you admit that you're not responsible for fulfilling on your business obligations?

If she didn't make the agreement to do the deal, she's not responsible. *You* are.

Perhaps when you're ready to be treated as an adult, you'll take proper responsibility for our actions and obligations, rather than acting like a grade-schooler dependent upon mummy & daddy.

Blightdron wrote:But nevermind, my bad.

Jack.

Exactly. This is the first, and only, thing that you've posted that I would agree with.

Blightdron wrote:I do not wish this to become a "Oh that's Jack, A.K.A Blightdron. He can't follow his trades up properly."

Except, that's the facts of the situation, like it or not.

If this were Bartertown, you'd have this attached as a permanent part of your trading record, instantly visible via the references attached to your name & ID.
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artyboy wrote:After a month I wouldn't hesitate to call paypal and get my money back.

If you wait a month, the PayPal window will have closed and you will have lost your money.

Actually, if you wait a couple weeks, the scammer can withdraw the money, and you'll get a PayPal note saying "we found in your favor, but recover no money for you."

Personally, I wouldn't wait more than a few days on PayPal. PayPal payment is instantaneous, so there is no excuse not to demand immediate shipment to go with immediate payment.

Thanks for the personal attack John. The reason that I had to make an emergency trip to my Dad's was because I had to see my nephew in Wales. There is no "Illnesses" involved. I'm not a bullcrapper.

Now I'd really appreciate it if someone accepted my god damn apology.

I've posted the package, what else can I do now?

Don't say you haven't made a mistake before?

So can people please just drop it now. I've made a bunch of successful trades over this site before, and I've only had one complaint.

I've learnt from that mistake.

Cheers,

Jack.

"Personal attack"? What are you talking about? I've made no attacks at all.

However, the facts are:
- you've screwed up
- people claiming "family emergencies" when shipping late are a dime a dozen.


My personal opinion is that you're am extremely poor trader, and not someone that I would prefer to deal with. But that is not an attack.

When you say that you're 13 and depend on mommy to do things, that is an admission of immaturity. When you lash back at people with valid criticism of your business dealings, that is defensiveness. When you fail to deliver or communicate on an agreed upon trade, that is poor trading practice. Finall, a bunch of successful trades doesn't excuse treating your partner poorly when something does come up.


Good day!

Hollismason wrote:murder

Frazzled's enforcement and rug cleaning service? Remember our motto:


"Hammer meet hand. Hand say hello to hammer..."

BTW, for some constructive advice, here's a link to my trading article on Bartertown:

http://www.bartertown.com/trading/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=88190

Blightdron wrote:Thanks for the personal attack John. The reason that I had to make an emergency trip to my Dad's was because I had to see my nephew in Wales. There is no "Illnesses" involved. I'm not a bullcrapper.

Now I'd really appreciate it if someone accepted my god damn apology.

I've posted the package, what else can I do now?

Don't say you haven't made a mistake before?

So can people please just drop it now. I've made a bunch of successful trades over this site before, and I've only had one complaint.

I've learnt from that mistake.

Cheers,

Jack.

If you really feel that way you have simply proved why I feel it is a bad idea for young kids to deal in "serious" business. Like it or not you are not on the school yard trading bubblegum and cards, this is the real world mate, and their are approximately 10 gazillion more people than you in it.

I am not going to try and teach you the essentials of business (selling lemonade, washing cars, picking up poop, moving ridiculous amounts of dirt from one pile to another, etc...) and you seem to be obligated more to your personal reputation than this transaction.

I am taking into consideration your age however, and I am sure others will to if they see you selling something.

JohnHwangDD wrote:"Personal attack"? What are you talking about? I've made no attacks at all.

However, the facts are:
- you've screwed up
- people claiming "family emergencies" when shipping late are a dime a dozen.


My personal opinion is that you're am extremely poor trader, and not someone that I would prefer to deal with. But that is not an attack.

When you say that you're 13 and depend on mommy to do things, that is an admission of immaturity. When you lash back at people with valid criticism of your business dealings, that is defensiveness. When you fail to deliver or communicate on an agreed upon trade, that is poor trading practice. Finall, a bunch of successful trades doesn't excuse treating your partner poorly when something does come up.


Good day!

Depending on mommy to do things? You're out of your mind mate. I have to do things myself, but when I'm away I ask my family/friends favours.

This isn't any of your business anyway, and for the record, your constance claims of my immaturity is pathetic. If you have had problem with my trading then your complaining has a reason- but as a matter of fact, you don't. Sorry to point that out.

I have made good trades on Dakka before. Jon Garrett can back me up on this.

And treating my trading partner badly? You clearly need to get your facts right. I have constantly been very polite to Athba, and (like said before) added things to the postage to compensate. What else would you like me to give her? A fething medal?

And "good day!"? You sit there calling me immature and you don't even have the decency to sign your name off properly? I may be young, and I may argue with people, but I still have a decent amount of respect for people. You sir, don't even have a direct argument against me, and you still treat me like gak.

I can assure you this will be the last time any problem like this will occur through the SwapShop. Sorry to anyone who now feels they cannot trade with me. I'm also sorry to anyone who now feels that they should regard me as an "immature kid".

Cheers,

Jack.

Modquisition on: I am going to close this as it has fallen into flamer territory and I didn't realize that when it was first starting.

I think we've all learned a lesson here. As an image is worth a thousand words I think I can encapsulate that knowledge in one bit of wisdom.