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Shaman wrote:
Also I think a living energy race would be cool. I also think a Ushabti (the undead Egyptian things) would be awesome. The ones with the jackal heads and not have them being undead, living ones.

Yeah, but they would own as they wouldn't be hit by physical ammunition...

hey shaman. I was not insinuating that their motives were not understood, there just not completely human (unless you eat tons of food and then spawn various voracious creatures to continue eating world after world). And i already posted my idea. I would like to see a completely space dwelling race that only occasionally drops onto planets, but are able to produce defensive units of life to keep themselves safe. I talked about a wound exchange system that would allow them to ingest units and regurgitate new ones when required. I could the center piece being that one of these beings drops onto a newly colonized Tau or Imperial world and is attacked being mistaken for an agent of chaos or a heretical being. Whereupon it's murder leads this race into war, as they are few in number being like space dwelling whales. I think this would lend them a non-human view point but an understandable motive and would fit nicely into the universe. Sort a sleeping giant theme, not overtly agressive like the Necrons though ( the other billions of year old sleeping giant). I want to see the empire get whats coming to them when they are agressive towards other races out of a sense of racial superiority. I want a normally gentle race, largely uknown, to suddenly bear their teeth and humble humanity. Of course such a race would be remarkably hard to balance. I am however not oppossed to your idea of energy beings, like something similar though less powerful than the C'Tan before they took on physical bodies. Being able to raise their dead or having a binary fission ability, have invulnerable saves to physical weaponry and all have force or power weapons, with a little lower weapon skill and strength to balance. I think that would make a killer army to play, and definitely dynamic. They would have to play and deploy differently to balance their concept with how they play though, depending on their common stats. But great idea.

I am actually now developing a supplement to the codex Chaos Daemons, for daemons of Malal. I will be developing it completely, for fluff to units to marks and gifts. So perhaps in a few years (maybe 10) I will move to developing a new army. I just don't have the mathematical and experientional know how to do it, a supplement at least gives me some idea on how to proceed. With daemons it is a matter of finding it's strategy void, or what character will these new units all have in common. Nurgle is tough, slaanesh is fast, Khorne hits hard and Tzeentch is great at range. So I think the same principal applies here, there is always a strategy void, something that has not been properly explored, so something new is what is best, not new colors or more of the same. Something novel that works. I wish such companies made their customers part of development, sent forums pictures or upcoming models for critique, sent out rule ideas so the community can evaluate them and give feedback. I think any fan based company should take and invite as much criticism as possible. Though I am sure they read these forums, doing what I suggested would help greatly, not everyone can come to conventions and games days, we need access to what is new, and the tools to change or protest what we do not like. Secretive practice in my opinion is a double edged sword; on one hand you protect IP and artistic property in GW's case; on the other you may produce something nobody wants or has little approval for. I have been reading the beastmen thread in the news and rumors section, and it seems that many dakka members dislike the cover art. THE COVER ART!!!! This shows another reason why they don't make such things as new factions or even new models a subject of customer opinion, it is the old saying "you cannot please everyone". I love the cover art , but most members find it underwhelming. I can see GW being sensitive to such things and just not wanting it's customers to know anything until it is too late to change. Is this a mistake? I don't know, I don't run a business. But if they do decide to devise a new race for either 40k or WHF it should be user consulted, and not a select secretive few, it should be broad based and statistically handled to please the greatest number of customers. That is how I would do it, and if people did not like what I was doing, I would change it, or argue my case openly. But that is my spiel, I just do not want to see another human faction, and if that means no new faction then that is all fine and dandy with me.

Interesting idea..

however the daemons of malal interests me more honestly..

That would be a really cool spin on daemons. Honestly couldn't you just do counts as? So like a blood thirster is a malaal hunter killer or something..

Shaman wrote:Interesting idea..

however the daemons of malal interests me more honestly..

That would be a really cool spin on daemons. Honestly couldn't you just do counts as? So like a blood thirster is a malaal hunter killer or something..

Malal's Daemons would just appear in the material realm and then commit suicide.

Chaos destroying itself, remember?

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Shaman wrote:Interesting idea..

however the daemons of malal interests me more honestly..

That would be a really cool spin on daemons. Honestly couldn't you just do counts as? So like a blood thirster is a malaal hunter killer or something..

Malal's Daemons would just appear in the material realm and then commit suicide.

Chaos destroying itself, remember?

But Chaos regenerates and restarts the the whole cycle for the fun of it...

It is just an idea, and no counts as would not work well for me on an aesthetic and honor level. Certainly for field testing units yes. for the final finished project no. I at first was developing a new chaos God altogether, but it was becoming difficult to make it coherent and consistent, So it is best to use an already made personality instead. And I would have to agree a Malal daemon would be suicidal in the material realm. In fact I think this might be part of their function, where they need to kill or destroy something or terminate themselves, probably by eating out their own innards. I can imagine the Malal greater daemon having the ability to consume other daemons to regain wounds, or having to do so in order to not lose a wound during a round. consequently I will be making them very strong, with small squads. Ubber daemons that act like time bombs, if not in the thick of things, turn on themselves and are obliterated. Though powerful must be placed right to get any combat. I am thinking of a troop choice costing 20 pts a piece, but this is not what this thread is about. Just wanted to say my agreeing statements.

hmm sounds very cool...
Although i camed on idea that a new race should act something like a mix between Scavens from Warhammer fantasy and Necrons.

Space Lizardmen!


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Vasarto wrote:Space Lizardmen!

Like Orks only instead of Junkyard..think more jungle meets Forge and Same Assault capabilities but more toughness.
Oh yeah and they can shoot better!

@ DELEPHONT you just described the tau lol
'interested in uniting, good tech, not cursed by AD MECH, a breath of fresh air'

LATD would be very welcome
SLAANI could be made (lizardmen)
Squats could be remade by making the DEMIURG
ah squats *sigh*
i cnt remember who said it but an army that revolves around a few units is how i imagine the Demiurg -bit like orges in WHF
although GW needs to get away from fast attack=troops with wings/bikes, heavy support=troops with big guns, elites=super troops
an army that breaks these conventions would be interesting and different to play

more xenos! no more imperials

I would like GW to bring back space drawves, I heard they existed once some where, but if they didn't they would be awsome

Squats or Spaven.

What lives in the Ghoul stars anyways? Apparently whatever it is is dangerous enough to devote an entire chapter of space marines to defending it (and keeping the nids from trying to eat it)

My point is there are a couple of Xenos races that have not been fully explored yet, even in the fluff.

The space mawheens couldn't go into the Ghoul stars cos they had to ask permission from GW, who said it couldn't be bothered.

how about a race made entierly made of robots but mecha type robots not the crappy necrons

PanzerLeader wrote:I'd like to see another alien faction emerge. In terms of looks and fluff, mebbe a beastman and Wood Elf cross. Nature oriented, with brutal close combat attacks and strong psychic powers that can shape terrain during the game. Units could be based on traditional woodland creatures, both actual and mythic. Completely different playstyle and aims from the normal grimdark feel.

That's an interesting idea actually. Sort of anti-Tyranids.

I fear GW will not revile any more alien factions because they can't even keep it up with the ones they already have.

Kilkrazy wrote:
That's an interesting idea actually. Sort of anti-Tyranids.

I fear GW will not revile any more alien factions because they can't even keep it up with the ones they already have.

I hadn't really considered them to be the anti-Tyranids but I see it now that you say it. I was originally aiming for the embodiment of the benign forces of the Warp, but a reverence for nature/life would also be very much opposed to the Great Devourer. I might have to flesh this out more now once I finish the little Eldar short story I'm working on in Dakka fiction. It would be interesting to try and build an army with a unique background and playstyle.

Not so much benign as neutral-aggressive to all type of warpy army. Warp can't be good, right? Plus, lay off the Wood elf thing. Both Eldar suck enough already, this would be adding something for them to be compared to!

*shrug* Wood Elf is a pretty good comparison to bring across the initial idea. And the old fluff described the natural rythmns of the warp as harmonious and benign and described it as "the natural forces which flowed through all living things like a great river of life bringing sustenance." So yeah, generally neutral but very anti-Chaos/anti-Tyranid. I haven't even begun fleshing out the idea yet, but definately not gonna make them wood elves in space.

What about the Draxian Hegemony, Worldweave of the Noisome Reek, Church of Dracolith, and Ulumeathic League.

Read the big red book.

We need cultist and traitors, and Interex they would be really cool

they should have a codex for pre heresy marines, and they went forward in time through the warp, and they should have models for the thunderbolt pattern sm and the emperor and horus, making the sm suck but thier tanks awesome, with lot of ancient lost-to-the-ages tech, and the emperor should, have 10 wound, hits on twos,and re-rolling, and strenth 10, no armour or invulnerables and stuff.

and make witch hunters and demonhunters in the same codex!!! and make plastic inquisition models!
and plastic chaos dreads and defilers!

Considering nearly 30%-40% of what the imperium fights in some form of Latd (mutants, traitor guard etc) they really need a codex.

It should be really adaptive, so you can make a genestealer cult as easily as the blood pact. And for god sake can we see what an AT-70 reaver looks like. (anyone who's read gaunts Ghosts knows what I'm talking about)

After that make the Ad Mech. There's so much fun stuff there from electro-priests to skitarri to elite tech guard units and even Knights.

Also, combine the inquisition, and for god's sake update DE

Vasarto wrote:Race Name:Vaeran
Race type:Humanoid like race, Very Simular to that of the Human Race. Their bodies overall is slender and thing and mostly muscle. They have very long and pointed ears but facial features are different from a humans. "Not Elves but simular" Their Skin is Dark in color and most have very long black hair and Piercing red eye's.

Food type:They are mostly Carnivores and Drink blood from their prey. Although they do eat some types of Fruit and eat certain Nuts and Berries on occasions.

A race that Specializes in Speed and Fast Striking but lacks In Armor. They have "very" fast Vehicles and can Withstand G force that would Kill any other person of a race including Primarchs. Their Bodies were made to go very fast since the Birth of their race and have evolved over millions and millions of years accordingly. When they became smart enough they started genetically altering their DNA structure to add new improvements and "SUPER" evolve themselfs and their brainpower. Their race evolved at near the pace the Tau did but they were a much older race by the time they did it.

Their Vehicles, even in the warp travel at speeds that are unheard of by anyone else and in battle are they strike hard and fast and it is said that they have never lost a war.


Army Build:All their Vehicles move at a minimal of at least 12 inches and their foot troops move at a pace of 9 inches. They lack a little in close combat but with the right weapons given to a select few they can do damage. No Unit exists with an Initiative lower then 6 and their best at moving around. However moving at that speed makes shooting difficult at times. If they move at their full speed. "full Distance" it lowers their BS. However Moving at full Speed gives them a simular rule to certain skimmers moving flat out and most recieve a +3 cover save for moving at high speeds.

Unlike most units. They can Disembark From Vehicles and Deep Strike and STILL move and Assault. So you can deep strike. Move them Half their Distance they can move and Still shoot and Assault.
(They specialize in speed ONLY)

Their Technology is based on Rail gun Technology and Thus No unit ever gets more then a single shot from their guns. Their guns are powerful but unless it comes from their "big tank" they have 0 blast weapons and 0 weapons that get a more then one shot out.

Wood eldar

Oh great, everyone wants flimsy space-elves that live on forests, shoot bows, and go into orbit with magical winds riding in wooden ships....in space. YAY for sucks

Oh great, everyone wants flimsy space-elves that live on forests, shoot bows, and go into orbit with magical winds riding in wooden ships....in space. YAY for sucks

definitely not

We need a professional traitor guard amry (like blood pact) and the Ad mech, no more effet spess elves

hi tech baboons.


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EmilCrane wrote:

Oh great, everyone wants flimsy space-elves that live on forests, shoot bows, and go into orbit with magical winds riding in wooden ships....in space. YAY for sucks

definitely not

We need a professional traitor guard amry (like blood pact) and the Ad mech, no more effet spess elves

You can do a pretty decent traitor guard army with the new ig dex, actually.

TR4ITOR...thats a word you can put in front of anything to make a new codex/army. TRAITOR Gaurd, TRAITOR marines, TRAITOR IG, TRAITOR KITTY in space...

The Charybdis

A race of betentacled wind monsters with blast-back effects.

TRAITOR Charybdis...there you go, you've got a SECOND codex!