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Forget it rocket chicken just drop it.

Or else our response = fueling the fire .

I belive you made it that way. why is it when someone makes an opinion based on their experiences do you have to try and say they are wrong i simply stated that i recieved a less than expected product YET i would be able to fix it and that i would CONTINUE to buy from them, This isnt a "lets boycott FW and GW thread" so dont make it that way. Everyone else has posting something somewhat useful yet you still continue to argue with everyone and try and say we are all wrong because we have an opinion. I think you have established quite much that you have yours so why cant anyone else be entitled theirs?


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Alright i agree so lets get back on topic. Has anyone else purchased the weathering powders?


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Changed the title to the thread as it did sound a little harsh. It wasnt all bad.

I havnt tried FW powders , and probably never will.
I have tried Mig Pigment and grounded art pastel sticks,
and they all work the same way , or atleast the result look the same.

So i'll be sticking with pastel powders.
BTW , if your mom or sister throws out their eye shadow kit , feel free to give that a try lol

LunaHound wrote:I havnt tried FW powders , and probably never will.
I have tried Mig Pigment and grounded art pastel sticks,
and they all work the same way , or atleast the result look the same.

So i'll be sticking with pastel powders.
BTW , if your mom or sister throws out their eye shadow kit , feel free to give that a try lol

I hope you dont mean by wearing it lol.

rokitchikin wrote:I hope you dont mean by wearing it lol.

LOL if you are curious about it , sure why not!

No i mean the principle behind it are very similar , you can "smudge" them on the same way
as people brush the powder on.

The thing is, aside from Mr Animation here...

Resin is not something that you can just up and throw together.

Aside from the sheer homework that you need to do to just get started, you need to make sure you prep the resin, then file and fix, fill, shape, refit again, and put it together.

Its not something that a new guy can just pull out of the box, slap togehter like any other GW kit and throw down on the table and start playing. I bought a few things from them, and have had a couple of issues such as yours, but I was already aware of them and the potential issues that come with working with something as touchy as resin.

Honestly? You want to fix it?

Practice first by going and getting some of your own resin, and play with it a little.

THEN come back to the FW stuff, and go to work by mixing up a small batch for things like reshaping and filling. If you run across some holes or cracks, you have the option of using miliput ( Which to me is the best choice and quickest) or you can go ahead and use the small batch of resin to refill and possibly jack your models details up if you arn't careful.

you need to use the proper safety equipment and tools, and don't mess about without doing your homework on the FW stuff and resin in general before you just up and open the box and start going at it.

I'm sure others could give more pointers without being pogues about it, and personally I think you guys are being a little rough over something like this. Resin models are rough for first timers, and even moreso when you are given the impression of one thing, and it ends up a different case.


To the OP- Your frustation is understandable, but in time and with practice resin models are good and get easier with time and patience, and doing a few more then just going at one FW model and saying that they all suck from just one model.

Practice, practice, practice.

as to the powders- It is a little about the powders themselves, and its more to do with quality brushes and letting a little go a long way. stroke to the away, and dust it on the models so that they overcoat, and don't smudge. And....

Don't touch it.

One thing that I swear by when working with resin, Grot is Squadron's Putty.

Comes in different sized tubes and is a fething godsend for working with resin. It's nice to have something that you basically just squeeze a bit of it over the gaps/affected areas and then use sculpting/shaping tools to fix it.

Grot 6 wrote:The thing is, aside from Mr Animation here...

Resin is not something that you can just up and throw together.

Aside from the sheer homework that you need to do to just get started, you need to make sure you prep the resin, then file and fix, fill, shape, refit again, and put it together.

Its not something that a new guy can just pull out of the box, slap togehter like any other GW kit and throw down on the table and start playing. I bought a few things from them, and have had a couple of issues such as yours, but I was already aware of them and the potential issues that come with working with something as touchy as resin.

Honestly? You want to fix it?

Practice first by going and getting some of your own resin, and play with it a little.

THEN come back to the FW stuff, and go to work by mixing up a small batch for things like reshaping and filling. If you run across some holes or cracks, you have the option of using miliput ( Which to me is the best choice and quickest) or you can go ahead and use the small batch of resin to refill and possibly jack your models details up if you arn't careful.

you need to use the proper safety equipment and tools, and don't mess about without doing your homework on the FW stuff and resin in general before you just up and open the box and start going at it.

I'm sure others could give more pointers without being pogues about it, and personally I think you guys are being a little rough over something like this. Resin models are rough for first timers, and even moreso when you are given the impression of one thing, and it ends up a different case.


To the OP- Your frustation is understandable, but in time and with practice resin models are good and get easier with time and patience, and doing a few more then just going at one FW model and saying that they all suck from just one model.

Practice, practice, practice.

Yes i am willing to fix it. I stated numerous times that it was fixable just a little annoying as they are very pricey. I have worked with resin before and have been modelling for many years and i too knew of the potential problems. It just got me that 2 products from 2 different companies one big one small arriving one the same day could have such a difference in quality.

A base does not compare to a full model, once again.

rokitchikin wrote:Yes i am willing to fix it. I stated numerous times that it was fixable just a little annoying as they are very pricey. I have worked with resin before and have been modelling for many years and i too knew of the potential problems. It just got me that 2 products from 2 different companies one big one small arriving one the same day could have such a difference in quality.

Yes but this is sort of mainly a GW forum . Not saying you are wrong , but people dont like hearing negative things said to the thing they support.

So if you think about it , its.... sort of understandable... sort of

LunaHound wrote:

rokitchikin wrote:Yes i am willing to fix it. I stated numerous times that it was fixable just a little annoying as they are very pricey. I have worked with resin before and have been modelling for many years and i too knew of the potential problems. It just got me that 2 products from 2 different companies one big one small arriving one the same day could have such a difference in quality.

Yes but this is sort of mainly a GW forum , people get mad easily if you dont praise GW products. Its understandable , so i tried to just let it go.
Not saying you are wrong , but people dont like hearing negative things said to the thing they support.

"People get mad" when you post untrue, second or third hand experiences or when you post something as silly as "Well, I'm really annoyed at this but I'm going to suck it up and I don't want to make a little effort to get a replacement".

Kanluwen wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

rokitchikin wrote:Yes i am willing to fix it. I stated numerous times that it was fixable just a little annoying as they are very pricey. I have worked with resin before and have been modelling for many years and i too knew of the potential problems. It just got me that 2 products from 2 different companies one big one small arriving one the same day could have such a difference in quality.

Yes but this is sort of mainly a GW forum , people get mad easily if you dont praise GW products. Its understandable , so i tried to just let it go.
Not saying you are wrong , but people dont like hearing negative things said to the thing they support.

"People get mad" when you post untrue, second or third hand experiences or when you post something as silly as "Well, I'm really annoyed at this but I'm going to suck it up and I don't want to make a little effort to get a replacement".

Explain what i said is untrue in this post again?

Call em - you get the same products free. no questions really asked. just do it.

Kanluwen wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

rokitchikin wrote:Yes i am willing to fix it. I stated numerous times that it was fixable just a little annoying as they are very pricey. I have worked with resin before and have been modelling for many years and i too knew of the potential problems. It just got me that 2 products from 2 different companies one big one small arriving one the same day could have such a difference in quality.

Yes but this is sort of mainly a GW forum , people get mad easily if you dont praise GW products. Its understandable , so i tried to just let it go.
Not saying you are wrong , but people dont like hearing negative things said to the thing they support.

"People get mad" when you post untrue, second or third hand experiences or when you post something as silly as "Well, I'm really annoyed at this but I'm going to suck it up and I don't want to make a little effort to get a replacement".

no Kanluwen, people get annoyed when you keep typing crap, without contributing to the OP's OT. stop stirring the pot. you're not being helpful. you're just pissing people off.

Kanluwen wrote:A base does not compare to a full model, once again.

ONCE AGAIN stop instigating. We all read what you typed. If i wanted to read it once again id go a page or 2 back. Stick to the topic.

You know what, forget it.


this thread of postings is more adversarial over something that could have been a pretty interesting subject, I'm done with it.

You guys go have fun on the playground.

I'm out and watching your stupid drama from the sidelines.

I will buy from them again. I am in no way turned from it. I do have the skills necessary to repair i just feel for those that dont. I have made my own casts before by the way.

RogueMarket wrote:Call em - you get the same products free. no questions really asked. just do it.

lol RM , i'll tell you something that probably no one would believe.

I know people think i hate GW , but here is the truth about something.
For everything wrong i have ever bought / receive in their kits , i dont tell them to get free product or replacements. ( gasp how can this be? )

The first time it happend , yes i called and they sent me replacement for a $1 bit. But when i saw the stamped postage on it that says
$9 , i told myself never to phone them again EVEN IF ITS NOT MY MONEY.

Because i feel this is in a way contributing to how they price the products.

So yes im not evil , and im not out to get GW mr X

Gonna try the FW weathering powders this weekend after i get settled in the new house. Gonna put the SW doors on the raider and have at it.

rokitchikin wrote:Gonna try the FW weathering powders this weekend after i get settled in the new house. Gonna put the SW doors on the raider and have at it.

If you dont mind me asking , what color do you use for the blue on the wraith lord?
Im about to start painting my IG , and thats the blue i need to match color of R9 Arrow Head

LunaHound wrote:

rokitchikin wrote:I hope you dont mean by wearing it lol.

LOL if you are curious about it , sure why not!

No i mean the principle behind it are very similar , you can "smudge" them on the same way
as people brush the powder on.

cosmetics are designed to wash off sooner, but there is more crap in most cosmetics than GW paint. I wouldn't be suprised if its better for the skin.

Hey, Luna you up to doing a Michelle Phan parody with inkwash, drybrush and highlight.

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I can say from personal experience that I have had no trouble with Forgeworld products to date. I have ordered 2 Repressor kits complete with SOB doors and hatches, a set of Land Raider doors, and a Keeper fo Secrets. None of them had the problems other have mentioned. Maybe I'm just lucky, but 4 different orders and no issues doesn't make it sound probable.

That aside there was some minor warping that I easily cured with some warm water and elbow grease. I did not assemble my own Keeper as I felt it was far to delicate, the modeller I hired had no missing parts and had no issue assembling as I asked him after hearing a few apocryphal tales. Its quite fragile (as it has many spindly parts) but beautiful as models go. Handled properly though its the centerpiece of my Slaanesh army.

I tend to agree with Clthomps. Resin, if pulled to soon, is still warm and prone to warpage/bending.

My opinion is that when FW increased their product range, the chance of getting a less than perfect piece went up. Case in point, in the early years of FW, I ordered the Salamander kit for IG. Fairly thin walls and small details, the thing showed up perfect,no warpage or air bubbles, slid in with just a little sanding on the mold seam. Vanquisher turret was the same. Long barrel, absolutely straight, no problems, just a few small air bubbles.

My most recent purchases were a Hydra and Vanaheim Gunshield. 2 of 4 barrels had a twist/warp in them, and the gunshield was actually curled. Having worked with resin for custom molds, I have seen what happens when it cools under it's own weight, and that is exactly what those 2 pieces looked like. BTW, I did have them replaced.

I agree with OP, when paying for something at those prices, a certain level of quality is expected. I also believe that a bit of leeway is to be expected with resin,but there is a limit.

I tried the air dryer method on bent pieces , they seem to work the first minute, but when it cools down it goes back to the bent form. What do i do to fix it?

One you have it heated up you need to bend it slightly in the right direction (be gentle as those thin pieces might snap). You may have to repaet the rpocess a few times to get it take fully. If you just heat it up and let it go its not going to work. I'm certainly no pro at this but I got all my info fromt eh FW web site. Thats how I knew what to do in the first place. If its bent really badly then I would send it back. If its just a slight bend you should be able to work it out over time.

Kanluwen wrote:Except that's not the way warping works.
At all.

And apparently you have no experience, whatsoever, with purchasing directly from Forge World if you insist that they don't secure the packages well enough.

Get a clue and come back later.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in this thread.
What she described WILL cause a part to warp, if it gets warm enough.
I *do* have experience ordering from FW. Their packing is utterly horrible at times.

I had a Lucius pattern Baneblade once, she had a warped top hull piece, no matter what I tried I couldn't get it to fit. It snapped after a long day of careful heating and bending. I never got a replacement part. The certificate still hangs on my wall in a frame, goodbye my dear A1911, goodbye and farewell.

But, like any good addiction, we keep coming back for more-more-more because it's so good from time to time. Isn't that right Tauros Venators?

This thread is being put on timeout. There's been flaming, warnings, and it looks like the flaming is going to start right after a previous warning. However the casting advice is interesting so it may be worth salvaging.