Who is the ultimate close combat troops choice?

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**Nurglizer**

Hmmm-- compelling argument for ork boyz + Grazghull
I like it!

**Klawz**

3000 point army:
6x squads of genestealers and 6 broodlords (1956)(408 rending attacks on the charge)
Swarmlord (280) (Trust me, that's scary)
1 brood of 3 carnifex with adrenal glands, scytals, bio-plasma, and frag spines (585)
1 Mawloc (170)

9 points left!

**FoeHammer**

Demogerg wrote:I still stand that a unit of 10 Wolf Guard in power armor with Frostblades and attatched Ragnar and Ulrik with logan nearby shouting for extra attacks would kill those diversified nobs with no problems.

50-70 S6 I5 power weapon attacks on the charge, rerolling misses, rerolling wounds

Everything on the nobs

Assume averages
Ragnar swings 7 attacks, hits on 3's with rerolls, 6 hits, wounds on 3's with rerolls, 5 wounds, 5++ saves with allocation nonsense means 3 nobs wounded
Ulrik swings with 5 attacks hits on 3's with rerolls, 4 hits,
wounds on 4's with rerolls, 3 wounds, 5++ saves means 2 more nobs wounded
5/10 nobs wounded before the Wolf Guard swings
60 attacks, hits on 4's with rerolls, 45 hits, wounds on 3's with rerolls, 40 wounds, each nob takes 4, with just 5++ saves they should all die.

Gazzy swings back, crushes a few guys, if he was in B2B with Ragnar or Ulrik he can hit them and maybe instakill them, either way, gazzy is going to be taking a fistfull of overrun wounds, hope for good luck on those 2+ saves, next round the remaining Space Wolves finish off gazzy before he can swing.

Oh, and this unit fits inside a Land Raider dedicated transport, so good luck avoiding the charge.

LOL thats just un-fair though plus no one even said anything to that cause its that great of a unit. As earlier in the thread for just troops GH's are some of the best be it at shooting or CC what other troops can be as flexible or as deadly as GH's. For only 150 pts 10 GH's 2 Flamers, 30 attacks on the charge if you want or 30 on the CA and they can switch to bolters for range. Thats a great unit for 150 pts and still have all the nice rules cough Astrates

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**Arheiner**

Yes, plus the Wolf Standard and Wulfen and it becomes nasty. The Squad he's on about costs 380+ Characters(275+180+260) So that's 1075 points to kill 10 diversified nobz.

**Mathais**

Howling Banshees, are so good, not so tough but when it comes to ability to kill they are awesome, just 5 will take on squads twice their points and size and win without even getting attacked back.