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Rose_Mountainz wrote:Nice update! but I think the display on the veterans hemtet should be painted in a diferent colour to stand out more maybe?? It's looking very similar to the colour of the armour as it is now imho.

Hm, "the camera doesn't make the colouration credit" is sort of a lame excuse, but I can't come up with a better one The blue displays lights run throughout my whole army, and I aimed for it intentionally. A way for their optical interfaces to stand out in a yellow desert enviorment. I hear what you're saying, but I think that alot of the melded colour is due to my gakky camera fething up both with and without lighting. Thanks for the feedback

Definately a nice looking force. The vehicles are looking much more interesting now you've put on all the randomg bits and bobs such things tend to have painted on them

Also does your heavy flamer guy sell propane or propane accessories?

Flinty wrote:
Also does your heavy flamer guy sell propane or propane accessories?

and more

Nice use of FW shotguns, i like the HF, he is just badass

I am really likeing the FW conversion kit

This will be very nice looking army indeed! Great job, keep it up.

Allright, a small update. I haven't gotten much work done recently. One excuse is the weather, one is school work (I know, summer-school right?) and another's just time. But work has been done after all, and here's the next Vet.

Not much about him, he's the radioman for the squad. I wanted a different look for him with his gear that set him apart from the rest of my radio operators, and 'lo and behold, I found a different styled backpack that worked wonders (I will never be grateful enough that I picked up a Catachan squad for the 'its and bitzes). Head's from that FW Vet sprue. I chopped off the end of the lasgun after seeing a pic here on Dakka (can't recall whose model it was I saw, but cred goes to him neway! ), partly to make the model stand out a bit more and partly because I felt the light-weight, more compact style suited these airborne veterans. The idea is that the shorter barrel makes the gun lighter, less cumbersome and wieldy in the confines of a Valkyrie carrier. Possibly, it might even boost the firing-rate of the lasgun, so I actually played with some "counts-as" rules about it being rules-ways a shotgun, but I discarded it. I know it's generally not a good idea to mix weapon-types in a squad, but I did want a lasgun or two just to tie them together with that Guardsman feel, y'know Can't defend the Emperor without flashlights, now can we?


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PS. No idea why my camera decides to change colouring on the back and front photos. Can it have something to do with what colours are present in the picture, and that the skin tones make the whole picture tinted?

Allright, another Hardened Veteran finished. This time, it's one of the melta-gunners. I had some fun with the Melta itself as I wanted something to make it stand out, but not to be as garish as the Chaos meltas.

Damn dude, you got some painting skills, keep them coming

Okay, so... in my honest defence, I did assemble my Hardneed Veterans from the (I think 3rd?) last edition of the IG Codex, and not the latest. So, witting on the jon, I suddently catch that one of their special weapons can be a Heavy Flamer. Concidering I had allready planned on a simple flamer, it seems perfect. Only problem is I've allready assembled a Flamer, primed it, and have no Heavy Flamers to go. Now, I'd like some feedback from you folks. Do I keep my flamer, and make a heavy flamer at a later time and place when I have the appropriate sprues for it, do I try to mod the current flamer into a spruest up variant that counts as a heavy flamer, or what?

I don't really like the idea of adding more piping to the existing flamer cause that's... partly, alot of work and partly it might not look very nice in the end. So what I'm thinking now is maybe just add something small, like an auxiliary fuel or propellant tank. What do you guys think? Below is a pic of the Vet Flamer assmebled and primed.

Great looking models, nice and clean paint. As for the flamer, i would start again to be honest, then you will end up 100% happy, but if you do want to add something, the tank from a SM flamer should do the trick.

Hits_the_spot wrote:Great looking models, nice and clean paint. As for the flamer, i would start again to be honest, then you will end up 100% happy, but if you do want to add something, the tank from a SM flamer should do the trick.

Yeah, I was looking at that. It'd be quite simple to just file the bottom of the flamer down and add that tank there between the tubes and the fuel hose. Oh well, we'll see. I wager I'd have to get a second Cadian Command Squad box if I want another plastic Heavy Flamer. Though that might not be a bad thing, cause those sprues are awesome.

PS. On the gaming side of things, are those 15pts really worth it to put a heavy flamer there instead? I've allways got a mind to get everything I can outta my miniatures, and that S5 AP4 template would sure be nice against other infantry. but if it's worth the pts to put into a near-standard trooper? I've got very little WH40K gaming experience, so whatcha think?

Personally I play all of my vets with a Chimera and 3 Meltas and that's it.

Get the Chimera to the side/rear armour of an aopponent and fire 3 meltas from the hatch. It works out at around 155 pts I think.

However, if you want your vets to be used as an anti-infantry only unit then specailze them to things likeheavy Flamers, Heavy Bolters etc.

Disjointed Entity wrote:Personally I play all of my vets with a Chimera and 3 Meltas and that's it.

Get the Chimera to the side/rear armour of an aopponent and fire 3 meltas from the hatch. It works out at around 155 pts I think.

However, if you want your vets to be used as an anti-infantry only unit then specailze them to things likeheavy Flamers, Heavy Bolters etc.

I allways make that mistake, I try to make cool gak the Jack of all Trades. Little to no specialization. My vision of my Vets is a sort of strike team that can tackle most gak. Their shotguns are great for staying mobile and clearing out light infantry like Orks or Nids, while their meltabombs, democharge, meltas and that powerfist make them capable of melting tanks too. I kinda like the idea of a flamer with them, partly because I think the modelling opportunity to make a badass is great, and partly because I feel I might need it.

Alas, ideas have allready started cropping up in my head with a Vet with a Heavy Flamer and a pair of those Ork-ish pilot goggles. Likr blasting goggles or sumthin'. I'd however need to find myself a good Heavy Flamer or start converting heavily on a standard flamer to get it. but untill I've got the rest of my Vets painted, I'll let that project be. I still have one more Melta and then four other Vets to paint.

After that, I'll need to do some sculpting with my Penals anyway (seeing as they need some more clothes than the base Catachans and also explosive collars), so I can pitch into another Vet then.

Yeah I do find that unsupported my vets get trashed. But I keep a 30 strong Platoon purely Anti Infantry and let Sentinels and Vets deal with the rest.

Anyway, sorry for thread jacking!

Disjointed Entity wrote:Yeah I do find that unsupported my vets get trashed. But I keep a 30 strong Platoon purely Anti Infantry and let Sentinels and Vets deal with the rest.

Anyway, sorry for thread jacking!

No no, go ahead. I started this partly to talk setups and discuss the IG and what I might do with mine

Also, I finished the second Melta gunner for my Hardened Veterans. I really like how this model and the gun conversion came out.




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PS. Too late for ambient light to do the trick so I positioned my work-lamp a bit infront of him, but I wanted to get him out here ASAP. The PVA holding the basing hasn't even dried yet

Nice I likes it!

Loving your smooth paint scheme! Also really good-looking Command Squad/Veteran guardsmen! I wish I had the cash to buy Forgeworld stuff. Oh well. Keep it up!

HEJA SVERIGE! Had to say it

Looks good, I love the use of the strap for the melta taken from a flamer. Looks good, I did that myself too...to a varying degree of success...

On Space Marines, the Meltagun looks just fine, but on the Guardsmen it just seems horribly... over-weight. Just felt appropriate that they'd strap it. there's a strap outta Greenstuff on the first Melta aswell, although that doesn't show very well in that picture.

That's why I like the addition of a hand grip as well, lord only knows what sort of recoil something like that would kick up!
I always envision the first Dining room scene in Ghostbusters.

Hahah! Well, actually, considering that Meltaguns don't use rounds for ammunition, but induce directed microwaves to evaporate the target by mixing and heating gases, I don't think it gives off much if any recoil. But it just looks so damned... unwieldy.

Great work I'd agree that building a different trooper with a Heavy Flamer is a good idea or a blatantly different conversion for the state of WYSIWYG just to keep from confusing yourself when the squad gets embroiled in action. Mind this'll be less of a problem if they are all Heavy Flamers.

I did a modded heavy flamer for my PCS. I'm really not fond of the new Guard heavy flamer. It jsut looks too macro.

I figure that a heavy flamer fires the same stuff, just more of it and potentially at a higher rate of fire. Hence I added a heavier feed pipe and an additional fuel tank on the back. I also altered the muzzle in order to keep it different to the other flamers I have in the squad.

Okay, school has kept me busy these past weeks. Alot of crap to get done before the deadline, so I've had little... well, I coulda made time, but little energy to paint. It'll get better soon, but I do have something for you. Another Vet finished. Nothing fantastic about him, sorta the group's scout and tracker. He carries a Catachan-style lasgun for the lesser weight of it. He's also the first Vet with melta-bombs on him. I kinda slimmed them down a bit (dun' wanna have those large cylinders on my models) and ran with the FW grenades they send with, and painted them yellow. 'Cause, y'know... everyone knows that anything melta is yellow. Right?

I've had on my mind to give him a tatoo of some sort on his arm, but I haven't quite figured out exactly what should be on there. A serpent, or the aquila, or the ace of spades... don't know yet.

It'd be quite cool to just have the peace symbol on his arm.

Sort of a statement guy

That, my disjointed friend, is brilliant! "In the cold darkness of the far future there is only war" though... hmm, would be another awesome popculture reference however

Lovely miniatures. All the different heads you have used are great! Nice grey armour as well.

This is great! Keep it up!

Haha, thanks my friend!
It's just something that I like to include every now and then cause, not everyone in the Guard has signed up! Someone must have been drafted!

Maybe a little graffiti on helmets, like this :



A lovely photo of Yours Truely doing my Vietnam Living history!

but this sort of graffiti sprung up all over the place, I tend to put things on my Guard to make them less uniform.

Yeah, it's a good idea! I'd use it directly if it wasn't for concidering the fluff. Troopers are prolly almost allways drafted, and I doubt the Commissars would leave much room for differing points of view on the validity of such practises. But then again, that guy is a Veteran, and is valuable enough to get away with a thing or two.... hmmm