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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 20:54:10
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Frazzled wrote:You're a student right? Thats sweet. Call me up in 20 years when you've had an actual life.
I'm 24 but not a student due to a bad government but I have personally experienced more negative things than most people 10 years older than me. Can my opinion count?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 20:55:13
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Frazzled wrote:Henners91 wrote:
I am? I'm at university and paying it for myself thank you very much. As for my prior education, granted... but I really don't understand what you're saying: Me, a student who did very well at school shouldn't be financed by the state?
Are you getting financial aid? How about subsidized loans? Is it a public school? If any of those are yes then no you're not.
Its not "the state." There's no uncle State. Its tax payers. Wake up youngin! You're daydreaming about your coeds again and not paying attention in class.
Can I refer to you as "so older than dirt, so arrogant, so ignorant and so very selfish?
Fixed your quote. People of my age preferred the term "wizened American" thank you very much.
Whats the matter fraz? Got tired of implying that my opinions are irrelevant because of my age so you had to start working on the new kid?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 20:55:31
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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rocklord2004 wrote:Frazzled wrote:You're a student right? Thats sweet. Call me up in 20 years when you've had an actual life.
I'm 24 but not a student due to a bad government but I have personally experienced more negative things than most people 10 years older than me. Can my opinion count?
Only because your avatar is wicked cool. Automatically Appended Next Post: ShumaGorath wrote:Frazzled wrote:Henners91 wrote:
I am? I'm at university and paying it for myself thank you very much. As for my prior education, granted... but I really don't understand what you're saying: Me, a student who did very well at school shouldn't be financed by the state?
Are you getting financial aid? How about subsidized loans? Is it a public school? If any of those are yes then no you're not.
Its not "the state." There's no uncle State. Its tax payers. Wake up youngin! You're daydreaming about your coeds again and not paying attention in class.
Can I refer to you as "so older than dirt, so arrogant, so ignorant and so very selfish?
Fixed your quote. People of my age preferred the term "wizened American" thank you very much.
Whats the matter fraz? Got tired of implying that my opinions are irrelevant because of my age so you had to start working on the new kid?
Well, yea. Everyone gets their turn. You had yours. Now its time for the new victi...er...guy.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 20:59:35
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Frazzled wrote:Henners91 wrote:
I am? I'm at university and paying it for myself thank you very much. As for my prior education, granted... but I really don't understand what you're saying: Me, a student who did very well at school shouldn't be financed by the state?
Are you getting financial aid? How about subsidized loans? Is it a public school? If any of those are yes then no you're not.
Its not "the state." There's no uncle State. Its tax payers. Wake up youngin! You're daydreaming about your coeds again and not paying attention in class.
Can I refer to you as "so older than dirt, so arrogant, so ignorant and so very selfish?
Fixed your quote. People of my age preferred the term "wizened American" thank you very much.
I am being financed by a loan paid by a private company that I pay back at a low interest once I earn over £15,000... That's how University works in England, though limited means-tested support is available, I did not qualify for it being from a pretty well-to-do middle class background.
Stating that there is no state and it's all just a con on the taxpayers is just a typical argument from those who would probably go ape if their fire services and such disappeared but then rage at a tax increase... though I respect it's obviously different in the States as you literally are many states... Hence why I can empathise, to a degree, with any apathy felt towards Washington.
At least selfish is in there! I had no idea how old you were to be honest. I'd just wish to emphasise that the lifestyle of the West and America in particular in line with growing consumption in the east is putting billions of people at risk... For no reason other than self-indulgence o.O
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 20:59:45
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Frazzled wrote:Henners91 wrote:
I am? I'm at university and paying it for myself thank you very much. As for my prior education, granted... but I really don't understand what you're saying: Me, a student who did very well at school shouldn't be financed by the state?
Are you getting financial aid? How about subsidized loans? Is it a public school? If any of those are yes then no you're not.
Its not "the state." There's no uncle State. Its tax payers. Wake up youngin! You're daydreaming about your coeds again and not paying attention in class.
Yes, but you shouldn't look at it as paying for someone else's education Fraz. You're paying for education so you don't have criminals and vandals running around on the streets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:03:08
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Henners91 wrote:
I am being financed by a loan paid by a private company that I pay back at a low interest once I earn over £15,000... That's how University works in England, though limited means-tested support is available, I did not qualify for it being from a pretty well-to-do middle class background.
Which means its subsidized by the government.
(congrats by the way, and keep up the good work, or I'll give your address to Killkrazy, and he's well killkrazy..., remember Mercy is for the Weak!)
Stating that there is no state and it's all just a con on the taxpayers is just a typical argument from those who would probably go ape if their fire services and such disappeared but then rage at a tax increase... though I respect it's obviously different in the States as you literally are many states... Hence why I can empathise, to a degree, with any apathy felt towards Washington.
At least selfish is in there! I had no idea how old you were to be honest. I'd just wish to emphasise that the lifestyle of the West and America in particular in line with growing consumption in the east is putting billions of people at risk... For no reason other than self-indulgence o.O
Then give up everything you own. All you need to live is food, clothing, and shelter. Everything else is a waste you evil materialist!!!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Grignard wrote:
Yes, but you shouldn't look at it as paying for someone else's education Fraz. You're paying for education so you don't have criminals and vandals running around on the streets.  it Grignard thats my line! Quit stealing my arguments-punk!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:04:17
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Frazzled wrote:
Then give up everything you own. All you need to live is food, clothing, and shelter. Everything else is a waste you evil materialist!!!
Thats 1 or 10 reasoning. You can have luxuries and still have government services and regulation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:04:46
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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Woots. My avatar makes my opinion count  . So should I point out that I also ride my bicycle around town but just for excercise? I wonder if theres a way to make an alternative fuel source from the grease off of a face. Then all the teenagers could be their own fuel source and Frazz would feel they have a use. Everybody wins.  I've had a lot of sugar and am stuck at my work desk for the next few hours so expect more random irrelevant comments. Fortunately Frazz is a mod and can remove whatever irrelevant posts I make. :3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:12:46
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Frazzled wrote:Henners91 wrote:
I am being financed by a loan paid by a private company that I pay back at a low interest once I earn over £15,000... That's how University works in England, though limited means-tested support is available, I did not qualify for it being from a pretty well-to-do middle class background.
Which means its subsidized by the government.
(congrats by the way, and keep up the good work, or I'll give your address to Killkrazy, and he's well killkrazy..., remember Mercy is for the Weak!)
Stating that there is no state and it's all just a con on the taxpayers is just a typical argument from those who would probably go ape if their fire services and such disappeared but then rage at a tax increase... though I respect it's obviously different in the States as you literally are many states... Hence why I can empathise, to a degree, with any apathy felt towards Washington.
At least selfish is in there! I had no idea how old you were to be honest. I'd just wish to emphasise that the lifestyle of the West and America in particular in line with growing consumption in the east is putting billions of people at risk... For no reason other than self-indulgence o.O
Then give up everything you own. All you need to live is food, clothing, and shelter. Everything else is a waste you evil materialist!!!
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Yes, but you shouldn't look at it as paying for someone else's education Fraz. You're paying for education so you don't have criminals and vandals running around on the streets.  it Grignard thats my line! Quit stealing my arguments-punk! 
Subsidised by the government for others perhaps
Bah, it's hard to be mad at someone who congratulates you...
If I could be born into a world where the state provided all I'd happily surrender myself to it: Unfortunately, the state doesn't and surrendering my goods to it would only engender envy on my part... You can't have a hybrid system.
But back on topic, I still fail to see why such a large portion of the world's usage and emissions can be permitted to come from a disproportionate fraction of the populace.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:13:45
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Grignard wrote:Frazzled wrote:
Then give up everything you own. All you need to live is food, clothing, and shelter. Everything else is a waste you evil materialist!!!
Thats 1 or 10 reasoning. You can have luxuries and still have government services and regulation.
I was referring to the materialistic West comment actually.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:14:40
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Henners91 wrote:Frazzled wrote:Henners91 wrote:
I am being financed by a loan paid by a private company that I pay back at a low interest once I earn over £15,000... That's how University works in England, though limited means-tested support is available, I did not qualify for it being from a pretty well-to-do middle class background.
Which means its subsidized by the government.
(congrats by the way, and keep up the good work, or I'll give your address to Killkrazy, and he's well killkrazy..., remember Mercy is for the Weak!)
Stating that there is no state and it's all just a con on the taxpayers is just a typical argument from those who would probably go ape if their fire services and such disappeared but then rage at a tax increase... though I respect it's obviously different in the States as you literally are many states... Hence why I can empathise, to a degree, with any apathy felt towards Washington.
At least selfish is in there! I had no idea how old you were to be honest. I'd just wish to emphasise that the lifestyle of the West and America in particular in line with growing consumption in the east is putting billions of people at risk... For no reason other than self-indulgence o.O
Then give up everything you own. All you need to live is food, clothing, and shelter. Everything else is a waste you evil materialist!!!
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Yes, but you shouldn't look at it as paying for someone else's education Fraz. You're paying for education so you don't have criminals and vandals running around on the streets.  it Grignard thats my line! Quit stealing my arguments-punk! 
Subsidised by the government for others perhaps
Bah, it's hard to be mad at someone who congratulates you...
If I could be born into a world where the state provided all I'd happily surrender myself to it: Unfortunately, the state doesn't and surrendering my goods to it would only engender envy on my part... You can't have a hybrid system.
But back on topic, I still fail to see why such a large portion of the world's usage and emissions can be permitted to come from a disproportionate fraction of the populace.
Because we have nice things like food, air conditioning, and medicine. Sorry, I'll agree with you to some extent but I'm not going to go live in a mud hut.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:17:53
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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[DCM]
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Grignard wrote:Sorry, I'll agree with you to some extent but I'm not going to go live in a mud hut.
You say that now but come 2016 when me and my Palin spawn bride are running America....
I can see it now : A Red in the Whitehouse in 2016.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:19:26
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Necros wrote:I've been a SUV driver for the last 10 years.
2000 Nissan Pathfinder, 2004 Honda Element, 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 door, 2010 Ford Escape
For me, I like being higher when I drive, I feel I can see more of the road and I feel safer. I hate regular cars because it feels like I'm sitting in the street.
I also want some sort of 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive or whatever. We don't get tons of snow here in philly (not including this winter :/ ) but I like to know if it does snow or even if it's just raining really bad, I can still get to where I'm going. I'm not one of those people that drives 80 mph in a blizzard thinking my 4WD makes me immortal.
Yeah, gas mileage isn't as good, but it is improving and more and more hybrid SUVs are appearing. I got my ford escape a month ago, regular not hybrid because hybrids are just too expensive and you don't really recoup the money spent in gas savings anyway. Maybe I'll look into it for my next one if it becomes more affordable. But I got rid of my jeep after 2 years mostly due to gas mileage, that and I hated the soft top that I thought I would love. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and always hella loud.
I live 10 miles away from him, and the weather here does not get too terrible, like he said. But the amount of people that can't drive when the weather is bad is a good enough reason for me to get an SUV, I'm in the market for one now actually. Its not just about gas mileage, its also about comfort and safety. If I'm about to get sideswiped by a van, I'll take the big bulky SUV over the tiny smartcar. Not to mention I do tend to haul alot of stuff, and my fiance's PT cruiser just does not do it for me. And public transportation isn't as good here as it is there, and for those of us that are poor, buying a cheap but not so eco-friendly vehicle is our only option
Edit:10 miles= 16 Kilometers for metric people
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:22:09
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:Necros wrote:I've been a SUV driver for the last 10 years.
2000 Nissan Pathfinder, 2004 Honda Element, 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 door, 2010 Ford Escape
For me, I like being higher when I drive, I feel I can see more of the road and I feel safer. I hate regular cars because it feels like I'm sitting in the street.
I also want some sort of 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive or whatever. We don't get tons of snow here in philly (not including this winter :/ ) but I like to know if it does snow or even if it's just raining really bad, I can still get to where I'm going. I'm not one of those people that drives 80 mph in a blizzard thinking my 4WD makes me immortal.
Yeah, gas mileage isn't as good, but it is improving and more and more hybrid SUVs are appearing. I got my ford escape a month ago, regular not hybrid because hybrids are just too expensive and you don't really recoup the money spent in gas savings anyway. Maybe I'll look into it for my next one if it becomes more affordable. But I got rid of my jeep after 2 years mostly due to gas mileage, that and I hated the soft top that I thought I would love. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and always hella loud.
I live 10 miles away from him, and the weather here does not get too terrible, like he said. But the amount of people that can't drive when the weather is bad is a good enough reason for me to get an SUV, I'm in the market for one now actually. Its not just about gas mileage, its also about comfort and safety. If I'm about to get sideswiped by a van, I'll take the big bulky SUV over the tiny smartcar. Not to mention I do tend to haul alot of stuff, and my fiance's PT cruiser just does not do it for me. And public transportation isn't as good here as it is there, and for those of us that are poor, buying a cheap but not so eco-friendly vehicle is our only option
Might be worth getting the point out there that you'll damage the other car more than it'll damage you... Let's hope you're never in the wrong
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:23:11
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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reds8n wrote:Grignard wrote:Sorry, I'll agree with you to some extent but I'm not going to go live in a mud hut.
You say that now but come 2016 when me and my Palin spawn bride are running America....
I can see it now : A Red in the Whitehouse in 2016.
Don't worry America, Genghis Connie's Golden Horde will be on the march and will save us from this...menace.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:23:21
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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@Henners91
I drive a 3.5 ton mercedes diesel, just for me and the wife.
Now you would seem to imply thats bad.
But my emissions are really low, and I run it on biodiesel, which i guess you'd like.
But as you get older and wiser, you realise that there's no such thing as black and white.
Just various shades of grey.
Most biodiesel is made from rapeseed oil or palm oil.
The land used to grow rapeseed, was once used to grow food.
Causing a food shortage
Acre's of rain forest have been cut down in indonesia, endangering the local wild life ( orangutans for instance).
Just to grow palm oil.
So theres a lot to be said for running on normal diesel
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:23:36
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We bought a 2WD SUV as my wife is short and has difficulty seeing over the steering wheel in other cars.
In SUVs she is so high she can safely see the road.
Also due to the global financial crisis and the panic amongst car manufacturers we got it for cheaper than a 4 cylinder 4 door sedan/hatch.
I drive a 4 door sedan (9 years old) but in a couple of years will be buying a tiny 2 door hatch as all I use if for is to drive the few kilometers to work and back, and the odd small trip to the shops etc.
Our next family car will be a 7 seat SUV for the same reason the wife wanted the current one. She has tried van type cars and she can't see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:26:37
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Henners91 wrote:Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:Necros wrote:I've been a SUV driver for the last 10 years.
2000 Nissan Pathfinder, 2004 Honda Element, 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 door, 2010 Ford Escape
For me, I like being higher when I drive, I feel I can see more of the road and I feel safer. I hate regular cars because it feels like I'm sitting in the street.
I also want some sort of 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive or whatever. We don't get tons of snow here in philly (not including this winter :/ ) but I like to know if it does snow or even if it's just raining really bad, I can still get to where I'm going. I'm not one of those people that drives 80 mph in a blizzard thinking my 4WD makes me immortal.
Yeah, gas mileage isn't as good, but it is improving and more and more hybrid SUVs are appearing. I got my ford escape a month ago, regular not hybrid because hybrids are just too expensive and you don't really recoup the money spent in gas savings anyway. Maybe I'll look into it for my next one if it becomes more affordable. But I got rid of my jeep after 2 years mostly due to gas mileage, that and I hated the soft top that I thought I would love. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and always hella loud.
I live 10 miles away from him, and the weather here does not get too terrible, like he said. But the amount of people that can't drive when the weather is bad is a good enough reason for me to get an SUV, I'm in the market for one now actually. Its not just about gas mileage, its also about comfort and safety. If I'm about to get sideswiped by a van, I'll take the big bulky SUV over the tiny smartcar. Not to mention I do tend to haul alot of stuff, and my fiance's PT cruiser just does not do it for me. And public transportation isn't as good here as it is there, and for those of us that are poor, buying a cheap but not so eco-friendly vehicle is our only option
Might be worth getting the point out there that you'll damage the other car more than it'll damage you... Let's hope you're never in the wrong 
What? The only part of that where I said anything about hurt is the sideswipe example. Sideswipe= them impacting my side. In that case, screw them, they hit me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:27:21
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loki old fart wrote:@Henners91
I drive a 3.5 ton mercedes diesel, just for me and the wife.
Now you would seem to imply thats bad.
But my emissions are really low, and I run it on biodiesel, which i guess you'd like.
But as you get older and wiser, you realise that there's no such thing as black and white.
Just various shades of grey.
Most biodiesel is made from rapeseed oil or palm oil.
The land used to grow rapeseed, was once used to grow food.
Causing a food shortage
Acre's of rain forest have been cut down in indonesia, endangering the local wild life ( orangutans for instance).
Just to grow palm oil.
So theres a lot to be said for running on normal diesel
It's a fair approach... but it just leaves me asking why you don't just buy a fuel-efficient car? That DOES run on oil but doesn't burn through it quicker than I do through sweet fried chickenz? Automatically Appended Next Post: Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:Henners91 wrote:Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:Necros wrote:I've been a SUV driver for the last 10 years.
2000 Nissan Pathfinder, 2004 Honda Element, 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 door, 2010 Ford Escape
For me, I like being higher when I drive, I feel I can see more of the road and I feel safer. I hate regular cars because it feels like I'm sitting in the street.
I also want some sort of 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive or whatever. We don't get tons of snow here in philly (not including this winter :/ ) but I like to know if it does snow or even if it's just raining really bad, I can still get to where I'm going. I'm not one of those people that drives 80 mph in a blizzard thinking my 4WD makes me immortal.
Yeah, gas mileage isn't as good, but it is improving and more and more hybrid SUVs are appearing. I got my ford escape a month ago, regular not hybrid because hybrids are just too expensive and you don't really recoup the money spent in gas savings anyway. Maybe I'll look into it for my next one if it becomes more affordable. But I got rid of my jeep after 2 years mostly due to gas mileage, that and I hated the soft top that I thought I would love. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and always hella loud.
I live 10 miles away from him, and the weather here does not get too terrible, like he said. But the amount of people that can't drive when the weather is bad is a good enough reason for me to get an SUV, I'm in the market for one now actually. Its not just about gas mileage, its also about comfort and safety. If I'm about to get sideswiped by a van, I'll take the big bulky SUV over the tiny smartcar. Not to mention I do tend to haul alot of stuff, and my fiance's PT cruiser just does not do it for me. And public transportation isn't as good here as it is there, and for those of us that are poor, buying a cheap but not so eco-friendly vehicle is our only option
Might be worth getting the point out there that you'll damage the other car more than it'll damage you... Let's hope you're never in the wrong 
What? The only part of that where I said anything about hurt is the sideswipe example. Sideswipe= them impacting my side. In that case, screw them, they hit me
I meant in the event of a proper collision, 4x4s tend to come out better...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:31:51
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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Frazzled wrote:reds8n wrote:Grignard wrote:Sorry, I'll agree with you to some extent but I'm not going to go live in a mud hut.
You say that now but come 2016 when me and my Palin spawn bride are running America....
I can see it now : A Red in the Whitehouse in 2016.
Don't worry America, Genghis Connie's Golden Horde will be on the march and will save us from this...menace.
That's Menace actually, check the copyright. I'll see you in court ! Well, my highly paid legal team will.
You think this, but little do you know we have already countered this. All dern furriners "swamping" your land... basically your future generations of leaders and community activists will be so exhausted from selling those cookies to all these extra homes and mouths they will have no time and energy left to devote to stopping our inevitable rise to power.
The really cunning part is this will also add to the crippling obesity epidemic, thus, in a bold twofold move, preventing any uprising and cutting burglary/similar crimes as people are too fat to get out or leave the home.
It's one of the basic principles of many martial arts : use your opponents strength against them, ideally whilst wearing something that looks like the least sexy nightwear* imaginable.
*term "least sexy nightwear" may not be relevant in all states. Especially those really, really really cold ones.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:31:57
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Henners91 wrote:loki old fart wrote:@Henners91
I drive a 3.5 ton mercedes diesel, just for me and the wife.
Now you would seem to imply thats bad.
But my emissions are really low, and I run it on biodiesel, which i guess you'd like.
But as you get older and wiser, you realise that there's no such thing as black and white.
Just various shades of grey.
Most biodiesel is made from rapeseed oil or palm oil.
The land used to grow rapeseed, was once used to grow food.
Causing a food shortage
Acre's of rain forest have been cut down in indonesia, endangering the local wild life ( orangutans for instance).
Just to grow palm oil.
So theres a lot to be said for running on normal diesel
It's a fair approach... but it just leaves me asking why you don't just buy a fuel-efficient car? That DOES run on oil but doesn't burn through it quicker than I do through sweet fried chickenz?
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Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:Henners91 wrote:Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:Necros wrote:I've been a SUV driver for the last 10 years.
2000 Nissan Pathfinder, 2004 Honda Element, 2008 Jeep Wrangler 4 door, 2010 Ford Escape
For me, I like being higher when I drive, I feel I can see more of the road and I feel safer. I hate regular cars because it feels like I'm sitting in the street.
I also want some sort of 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive or whatever. We don't get tons of snow here in philly (not including this winter :/ ) but I like to know if it does snow or even if it's just raining really bad, I can still get to where I'm going. I'm not one of those people that drives 80 mph in a blizzard thinking my 4WD makes me immortal.
Yeah, gas mileage isn't as good, but it is improving and more and more hybrid SUVs are appearing. I got my ford escape a month ago, regular not hybrid because hybrids are just too expensive and you don't really recoup the money spent in gas savings anyway. Maybe I'll look into it for my next one if it becomes more affordable. But I got rid of my jeep after 2 years mostly due to gas mileage, that and I hated the soft top that I thought I would love. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and always hella loud.
I live 10 miles away from him, and the weather here does not get too terrible, like he said. But the amount of people that can't drive when the weather is bad is a good enough reason for me to get an SUV, I'm in the market for one now actually. Its not just about gas mileage, its also about comfort and safety. If I'm about to get sideswiped by a van, I'll take the big bulky SUV over the tiny smartcar. Not to mention I do tend to haul alot of stuff, and my fiance's PT cruiser just does not do it for me. And public transportation isn't as good here as it is there, and for those of us that are poor, buying a cheap but not so eco-friendly vehicle is our only option
Might be worth getting the point out there that you'll damage the other car more than it'll damage you... Let's hope you're never in the wrong 
What? The only part of that where I said anything about hurt is the sideswipe example. Sideswipe= them impacting my side. In that case, screw them, they hit me
I meant in the event of a proper collision, 4x4s tend to come out better...
Because a normal car dosen't have a double bed, kitchen, toilet, fridge, digital tv ETC
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:34:47
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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reds8n wrote:Frazzled wrote:reds8n wrote:Grignard wrote:Sorry, I'll agree with you to some extent but I'm not going to go live in a mud hut.
You say that now but come 2016 when me and my Palin spawn bride are running America....
I can see it now : A Red in the Whitehouse in 2016.
Don't worry America, Genghis Connie's Golden Horde will be on the march and will save us from this...menace.
That's Menace actually, check the copyright. I'll see you in court ! Well, my highly paid legal team will.
You think this, but little do you know we have already countered this. All dern furriners "swamping" your land... basically your future generations of leaders and community activists will be so exhausted from selling those cookies to all these extra homes and mouths they will have no time and energy left to devote to stopping our inevitable rise to power.
The really cunning part is this will also add to the crippling obesity epidemic, thus, in a bold twofold move, preventing any uprising and cutting burglary/similar crimes as people are too fat to get out or leave the home.
It's one of the basic principles of many martial arts : use your opponents strength against them, ideally whilst wearing something that looks like the least sexy nightwear* imaginable.
*term "least sexy nightwear" may not be relevant in all states. Especially those really, really really cold ones.
Yes but lots of dem dern furriners aren't yer dern furriners but OUR dern furriners. Fear Genghis Connie's carefully crafted Mongol/Aztec/Somoan aliance of ultimate uberness!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:35:02
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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loki old fart wrote:
Because a normal car dosen't have a double bed, kitchen, toilet, fridge, digital tv ETC
My uncle has one of those. Its the hippie VW vans. It has a stove, tv, toilet w/septic tank, and a minifridge. Its boss
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:40:56
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:loki old fart wrote:
Because a normal car dosen't have a double bed, kitchen, toilet, fridge, digital tv ETC
My uncle has one of those. Its the hippie VW vans. It has a stove, tv, toilet w/septic tank, and a minifridge. Its boss
Nah you need a proper fridge to keep your beer cold
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:44:20
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Yes but lots of dem dern furriners aren't yer dern furriners but OUR dern furriners.
So you think....you, me and the doorpost.. there's actually no such place as Mexico. Basically we used the Channel Tunnel as a cover to drill a really big hole to your south borders and it is the actual populations of Spain, Portugal..err... all those other foreign hellhol...err... valued allies in our struggle, walking into your country.
Explains J-Lo don't it eh ? NO other rational explanation for that and Ricky Martin.
.. and then when Secret Agent "Cowell" gives the command word... well.. at least it will be short.
Like Mickey Rooney.
.err...
... yeah : basically when Super Nanny is then broadcast on the emergency channel, such is her tone and your careful indoctrination you'll all just sit there as we reconquer you.
Slowly. between the hours of 9-5, with 1 hour off for lunch, and nothing on the weekends. Or bank holidays.
hmm.. hang on..
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:46:15
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Because they can and for one reason or another they want to. That's pretty much it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:47:17
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Wait, your plan is made of FAIL. It did not account for a "British" Lunch. Your timeline is off. The USA is ours MUAHAHAHA!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:50:53
Subject: Why drive a polluting car?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Frazzled wrote:Wait, your plan is made of FAIL. It did not account for a "British" Lunch. Your timeline is off. The USA is ours MUAHAHAHA!
It used to be ours
We didn't want it, we only fought you for it because we thought if you had to fight for it , you'd look after it
We was wrong
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:51:15
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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Member of the Malleus
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Red the lack of coherancey in your post made my brain hurt. I'll join the Genghis horde if I can slap you in the face with a tuna for thowing too much random for even my adhd riddled brain to process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/21 21:53:24
Subject: Re:Why drive a polluting car?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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.... No plan of ours is going to rely upon our "food" now is it ? Have you never noticed the British Empire is unique in that it solely conquered on culinary grounds.
..why do you think we abandoned Australia so fast ? *ducks and covers*
Basically when our troops land, after your military bases, airports, comic books stores and Playboy mansion, our next stop is your "all you can eat" restaurants.
And your "International House of Pancakes".
We are coming for your "Twinkies" and your "Hostess fruit cakes" you have tormented us with for so many years in your literature.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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