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I can be a sore loser once in a while, especially if things are going to crap from turn 1. I played a game with my Space Wolves against Chaos Marines, and I got tabled by turn 4, since I couldn't make a single armor save to save my life. A squad of Khorne Berserkers would shoot my Terminators, and I'd fail 4 out of 6 saves. It was that bad. I ended up throwing my dice against the wall, and traded for a new set with somebody I know. That's as bad as I get, but I can see it still being pretty bad.

I know people who are far worse, however. I played a game against his Chaos Marines, and killed Kharn with a powerfist in my tac squad. He promptly grabbed his figure, threw it on the ground, then stomped it into the carpet. That was scary. Another friend of mine will throw his models into their box when they die, muttering angry things. He doesn't outright flip out, at least.

LunaHound wrote:

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:I beat this guy's DH with my leafblower IG and he raged and he said "POMPOUS LITTLE CHEATER ILL KILL YOU" and I was like "Do it fgt."

Mhm....

Ohoho I get it. Flattery gets you nowhere

Our group is pretty good, usually, about the sore loser thing. I'm prolly one of the worse generally and I think I'd have to be full on drunk to do any of the things mentioned above. Never thrown a model and the only curse I've uttered is "damnit Murphey" which is as much an inside joke among me and my most common opponent as we're both near full irish and roll miserably (the winner is the one the fails less, not the one that does better). We both had about had it after 30 lascannon, exorcist missiles and melta shots failed to kill a deff dread and he rolled three 1's on armor pen for his exorcist missiles. I think given our luck that game a bit of whining is excusable. I made sure to compliment the paint jobs on some of our opponents characters hoping to make up for it and discussed some fluff regarding Harker while the orks were shooting the million and one guns.

The worst thats has happened at our store was what was supposed to be a friendly game with four of the younger players (ie 15-20) including myself. My team was unfamiliar with Necron rules and the guy we were playing is renowned for cheating. Upon getting his stuff mown down he promptly made a rule up, which we thought was op so we asked to see it in the codex which caused him to have a hissyfit, yelling loud enough that the store manager had to come back and see what was going on (me and the new player had to explain as the other two were two seconds from each other's throats) and culminated with the necron player hitting my teammate over the head with his codex. It was shortly after this that the resident CSM player came in and I had him take my spot.

The second worse was during the last round Ard Boys for the top spot. The IG player rolled absolutely terrible, his entire gunline missed or failed to wound all but maybe 2 hits and he started to lose it. I don't think anyone has ever cursed that loud in the store and he threw his arms in the air saying "oh please just let it end" with dead models being roughly tossed into the bag. I don't blame him though, he's one of the coolest guys at the store but had a rough time throughout the day and it was getting to him. That was a fun battle though, it was the Keeper of the Rules/Fluff vs The Guy Who Blesses the Dice.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:I beat this guy's DH with my leafblower IG and he raged and he said "POMPOUS LITTLE CHEATER ILL KILL YOU" and I was like "Do it fgt."

Wow did that ever make me lol. You sir, have earned both 1 internet AND a cookie.

edit: Okay to add something to the thread:

I strongly dislike it when people whine about good/bad luck during the game. One of my regular opponents attributes every single time I win to "lucky dice rolls". When he wins, its because of how super awesome he and his army are.

Whiners about dice seem very common. I don't want to hear how unlikely it was that my TL assault cannon razorbacks got a pen against AV 13-14. I don't care, I just think its cool that it happened and now your gak is all busted up.

I've had someone accidentally hit one of my plastic guardsmen off the table (when I still had guard) and then continue and say "Oops", pick it up, put it in his mouth, and then bite through it at the midsection (not where the glue is) and bit straight through the plastic.

I really need to find a FLGS instead of a GW store...

99% of the people I play are great. That being said, if you step up to bat 1000 times you are going to get hit by a pitch one of those times.

I had a great time at ard boys despite the first match. I played Orks: KFF mech, burnas, battle wagons, boys, and Ghaz. He played a tough looking Eldar list. Turn 2 my battle wagon and trucks are about 4 inches apart, one has my KFF mech in it. A big hail of shots there, I measure between the trucks to see if I get a cover save. The whining starts from here, "No way that is 6 inches, you measuring from lug nut to lug nut?" I showed him, 4.5 inches between, he exclaimed "whatever". It just gets worse, louder and whinier from here.

The burnas in a battle wagon move up and do their thing, I call the TO over as soon as he starts. Not going to argue, just get a ruling and be done with it. Deff rollas, wash rinse repeat. I even showed him the printed out FaQ from GW. (The TO's ruling was insufficient at first) I was polite to him, he just got worse when I did this. So the last 2 rounds were played in dead silence by me, and strings of whining and curses from him. After the game, no hand shake, he picks up his models says some stuff about orks being broken. More things about the rulings of open topped vehicles, bad TO's, tourneys being for rule nazi's etc. He dropped from the tourney after his first game.

Only guy I ever ran into who had a problem in 40k. Guess ard boyz is not for him. I do agree in larger tourney's the stakes get higher, playgroups come from further, and the experience level is larger. People come to win,they bring "beardy lists" and in general know their rules. I am new to WH40k tourney's but have done all sorts of tourneys the past 20 years, various sports and MTG mostly. Always going to be that one guy in the crowd sooner or later.

Congrats Karon! That same idiotic picture pointed up at someone!

@J-Roc77

Well, I would never quit a tournament because things went sour from the first round.

Though, I was pretty sad about deff rollas, first time I played against them.

"Want to DoG?"

"Sure, why not, what is one warlock?"

"Alright! 2d6 S10 hits!"

I destroyed two battlewagons on turn one, and a second on turn two.

The other two proceeded to destroy:

4 Serpents

6 Warwalkers

1 Vyper

5 Warlocks

Farseer

I still eeked out a minor win, so it was all fine and dandy!

Brother SRM wrote:I can be a sore loser once in a while, especially if things are going to crap from turn 1. I played a game with my Space Wolves against Chaos Marines, and I got tabled by turn 4, since I couldn't make a single armor save to save my life. A squad of Khorne Berserkers would shoot my Terminators, and I'd fail 4 out of 6 saves. It was that bad. I ended up throwing my dice against the wall, and traded for a new set with somebody I know. That's as bad as I get, but I can see it still being pretty bad.

I know people who are far worse, however. I played a game against his Chaos Marines, and killed Kharn with a powerfist in my tac squad. He promptly grabbed his figure, threw it on the ground, then stomped it into the carpet. That was scary. Another friend of mine will throw his models into their box when they die, muttering angry things. He doesn't outright flip out, at least.

I can complain abit, but it is usually when the luck is against me. It is one of the primary problems I have with wargaming in all facets: You can deploy perfectly. You can manuever exactly as you need to. You can do everything right.

And your dice defeat you far more efficiently than the enemy ever could.

Mattlov wrote:I can complain abit, but it is usually when the luck is against me. It is one of the primary problems I have with wargaming in all facets: You can deploy perfectly. You can manuever exactly as you need to. You can do everything right.

And your dice defeat you far more efficiently than the enemy ever could.

I know the feeling.

CT GAMER wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:I can be a sore loser once in a while, especially if things are going to crap from turn 1. I played a game with my Space Wolves against Chaos Marines, and I got tabled by turn 4, since I couldn't make a single armor save to save my life. A squad of Khorne Berserkers would shoot my Terminators, and I'd fail 4 out of 6 saves. It was that bad. I ended up throwing my dice against the wall, and traded for a new set with somebody I know. That's as bad as I get, but I can see it still being pretty bad.

I know people who are far worse, however. I played a game against his Chaos Marines, and killed Kharn with a powerfist in my tac squad. He promptly grabbed his figure, threw it on the ground, then stomped it into the carpet. That was scary. Another friend of mine will throw his models into their box when they die, muttering angry things. He doesn't outright flip out, at least.

There's a big difference between tossing your cheap dice away and throwing your HQ on the ground to emphatically stomp it to pieces.

I've been exceptionally lucky that I've never played against a sore loser, just good players and cheats (curse you carl! *shakes fist*) Even when myself or my opponent have lost incredibly badly we've always shook hands after the match and cussed our bad luck or the dice rolls.

Karon wrote:

I've had someone accidentally hit one of my plastic guardsmen off the table (when I still had guard) and then continue and say "Oops", pick it up, put it in his mouth, and then bite through it at the midsection (not where the glue is) and bit straight through the plastic.

I really need to find a FLGS instead of a GW store...

Lol, that opponent just needs to be commited to an institution. This has got to be one of the weirdest stories I have ever heard. Did you get another guardsman or what? How did the staff react? Maybe we should start a new thread with the weirdest/most awkward moment ever in a game.

Most people I play are very cool. I think miniatures requires and builds character, a lot like golf. It is unfortunate that the few bad apples are the most memorable.

The one I remember is a Tau player I played against at a store which was not my usual FLGS. First, I was invited to set up terrain, and he would pick sides and such to balance it out, so as to save time. Without really thinking about it, I placed a fairly good sized woods base in the center of the table, which being a 4th edition game, the woods blocked line of sight as area terrain. After looking at it, I realized I could be placed at an advantage due to the wood in certain missions. I told him he could move around any terrain I set if he didn't like it, which he declined. I asked him if he was *sure* he didn't want to move that wood in the center of the table. He said no.

Predictably, on the first turn, I started advancing my melee heavy army forward in the cover of the trees. Nothing was said the first turn. During his first turn, his shooting was fairly abysmal on what he could see. Second turn I start getting complaints that I'm using "the Tyranid tape measure". This apparently is quickly holding the tape measure in front of a unit then "fudging" the models forward a couple extra millimeters. I denied this. Later, I was accused of measuring front to back. I also denied this. The other player then felt the need to show me how to measure in 40k, during which I resisted the urge to tell this individual that I've been playing this game for almost as long as he's been alive.

This goes on for another 30 minutes, until finally I place the tape measure on the table next to EVERY model I move and show him the move. I explain that yes, indeed, most Eldar units can charge off the fleet move. Another player told him that "he's not going to want to come here again" in reference to his arguing.

I was polite and non confrontational the entire time, and refrained from explaining to him that as a 30 year old man I'd be ashamed to go into a game store and cheat a 17 year old kid in a game of miniatures, so he really had nothing to worry about.

lokilokust wrote:I remember one time a little over a decade ago, there was this regular who played space marines (blood angels, i think) and pretty much lost every game he ever played. He was young (fourteen) and had absolutely no grasp of tactics and strategy but he always had fun and never complained. eventually, he played against this other fellow (who was almost twice his age) and he finally won against this other creep's nazi painted imperial guard army.
Well, after the nazi creep lost, he flipped out, threatened the kid, threw the kid's rhino against the wall (smashing it and getting himself banned from the store for good) and proceded to go outside, scream racial slurs at the now terrified fourteen year old, and generally cause a ruckus before the cops showed up.
Later in the week he went to the kid's house, destroyed his bicycle and tried to beat up the poor kid until the cops came, again, and arrested him.
I have yet to see a bigger sore loser than that.

That dude isn't a sore loser, he's mentally ill.

Thankfully haven't really had problems with sore losers in the general population, but when I was a kid, myself and my three closest friends were absolutely horrible losers with eachother. We never played the rules properly for one thing, partly because we started with Rogue Trader at around age 10-11 and the rules were just waaaay too long and boring for us to care about.

We'd all cheat rediculously on our army list; take forever to set up terrain, and argue at length that everyone was making the terrain benefit them unfairly; complain constantly that the other team (it was almost always 2v2) took far too long to do anything; squabble for hours about hard vs. soft cover; go nuts when any of our stuff even got shot at, never mind got killed, in which case we'd argue incessantly and usually just scrap the whole thing or end up coming to blows.

One of my buddies even threw up on my land raider once. Would have been annoyed had it not been the most hilarious thing i'd ever seen.

Anyway, as we got older our games became much more civilised.

CT GAMER wrote:I once had a guy I beat build a 1:1 scale Warhound titan and then set it on fire out of spite while screaming racial profanities in an Abe Lincoln costume...

holy crap, i thought i was the only one who experienced that... except in my case, he was ben franklin!

Played a guy who would not except the fact that i blew up his land raider on a 6 because it landed on the rulebook.

still won the game and was able to clear it up with an outside vote. BOOM!

I think my fav ive seen was a Tourney at tabletop games in KC.

I took my guard list and won all 3 games.

My first opponet was an IG player also.

Amusing part is he called my list inferior over and over and how taking battle tanks is a complete waste.

Then started going on he rolled bad.. Then started saying i won because apperantly IG is over powered and any list can win (yes.. he was playing IG also...)

And what gets even better.. I looked at their forums and he had a all infantry list, then went to a net Chimera spam list for the tourney (his chimeras werent even completly assembled, some missing tracks).

Best part is his club defended him like he was their savior on their forums.

Don't think ill ever buy from that store again.

warboss wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:I once had a guy I beat build a 1:1 scale Warhound titan and then set it on fire out of spite while screaming racial profanities in an Abe Lincoln costume...

holy crap, i thought i was the only one who experienced that... except in my case, he was ben franklin!

Okay. I wasn't going to say anything... but this thread just keeps getting weirder & weirder.

One guy I beat looked like Abe Lincoln!
After I beat him, he dressed up like a Warhound Titan and burned Ben Franklin in effigy.
It got reallly awkward when he started screaming "Are the British coming NOW, Ben?" and I had to remind him that Ben Franklin didn't say that & that it was actually Teddy Roosevelt.

Eric

ghargatuloth wrote:Played a guy who would not except the fact that i blew up his land raider on a 6 because it landed on the rulebook.

still won the game and was able to clear it up with an outside vote. BOOM!

landed on the rulebook? care to explain that?

Even though it was a flat surface, ostensibly right next to, or even on the table, it was not 'on the table' and thus shouldn't have counted, since it wasn't favorable to him.

Karon wrote:I really need to find a FLGS instead of a GW store...

That's not going to help, since the issue is one common to humanity in general. I had a guy once completely lose his gak over a game of scrabble. We'd maintained a narrow difference in points through the whole game, and coming up to the end, he was ahead by ten points or so, and I was down to three letters. I stared at my YRT, looking desperately for something to pair that Y with, when I saw an 'O' hanging out all by its lonesome and spelled 'Troy' (as in ounces). also hitting a triple-word-score. That, combined with the bonus for using all my letters, meant I went from narrow defeat to smashing victory, and I can understand what a wrench that can be for the other guy, but from the growing volume of the arguments about why it shouldn't count, to knocking the board off the table with a final shout of, 'bs!' wow, what a temper tantrum.

Then you got guys who pick fights in sports bars because their team just lost, and their standing next to a guy who's enthusiastic that his team one. No matter how you divide them up, when you have any group of people, there are always going to be a few in there who suck.

Bookwrack wrote: That, combined with the bonus for using all my letters.

I'm sure you only get the bonus if you get rid of all 8 of your letters . . . not just the 3 you have remaining =p

But that is highly off-topic . . . as I can't remember there being a table-top wargame version of Scrabble

Oshova

spartanghost wrote:

ghargatuloth wrote:Played a guy who would not except the fact that i blew up his land raider on a 6 because it landed on the rulebook.

still won the game and was able to clear it up with an outside vote. BOOM!

landed on the rulebook? care to explain that?

I think he means the die that rolled a 6 did so whilst landing on the rule book.

Oshova wrote:

Bookwrack wrote: That, combined with the bonus for using all my letters.

I'm sure you only get the bonus if you get rid of all 7 of your letters . . . not just the 3 you have remaining =p

But that is highly off-topic . . . as I can't remember there being a table-top wargame version of Scrabble

Oshova

Fix'd Bow before my Scrabble-nerd-superiority!

Bookwrack wrote:
No matter how you divide them up, when you have any group of people, there are always going to be a few in there who suck.

Yes, the standard deviation on human pesonalities allows for Ned Flanders to rest on the upper control limit and Scrabble Loser guy on the lower control limit and not violate any Western Electric control chart rules.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Oshova wrote:

Bookwrack wrote: That, combined with the bonus for using all my letters.

I'm sure you only get the bonus if you get rid of all 7 of your letters . . . not just the 3 you have remaining =p

But that is highly off-topic . . . as I can't remember there being a table-top wargame version of Scrabble

Oshova

Fix'd Bow before my Scrabble-nerd-superiority!

GAH! I must lose 5 Internet-Nerd points =[ FAIL! lol

lokilokust wins the thread. If only some video had been obtained, Nazi Warhammer Kid would have been an internet celebrity by now. Kind like the Winnebago guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQQfBrSUs0

We had a Khorne player (both Fantasy and 40K) at our local who would flip out, beginning with muttering curses and ending in red-faced, teeth-gritting sputtering rage every time he lost (which was most of the time). He usually managed to keep it self-directed, but you knew that bottle was under serious pressure.

That's not an unusual sort of fellow to find 1 or 2 of at an FLGS, but that fact that he played Khorne made it really, really funny to EVERYONE. This did not help dude's rage problem. "HAHAHA ENGRY KHORNE PLAYER HAHAHAH!" was probably not what he needed to hear on a weekly basis. It was a totally unfortunate self-perpetuating stereotype .

Sad as he was a decent guy until he got his paws on the 'Zerkers. Which of course makes it even funnier.

once I played a guy who
1. had a hissy fit that I was the only other free player and I only had 2 hours to play.

2.told me he was basically better at warhammer then I because he bought $200 of WH and on his next pay day was going to buy $300 more.

3.his unit of 12 assault marines. all armed with CCw and pistol, was actually a chaplain with a pair of lightning claws. another was a chapter master with a pair of lightning claws, and 1 was a vet with a pair of lighing claws. He didnt feel the need to tell me until they charged me.

4.His 2 vindicators were better then anything I had just because they were his. so I blew them up. and he almost started crying. I really mean it, had a hissy fit and almost cryed. I was 23 then
..he had to be alteast 27 ish

5.He could shoot me through a building and I had no cover save. My same unit shooting back through the same building gave him a cover save

6. At one point other people started coming around the board saying"he cant do that, he cant do that, Tactiacl squads dont have signums" I just told them its ok. Id rather loose and go home early then keep playing.

J-Roc77 wrote:says some stuff about orks being broken.

Orks are broken

I have been guilty of being a sore loser, specifically with my friend. But that's just because I tend to be more competitive with him playing. But that's normal. Anyways, the worst I've really ever done is just get annoyed when his massed number of Crisis battlesuits ( you, Farsight) charged in and completely gunned down my Chaos marines and I get mad for a turn. However, my sore loserness is pretty much done though. I might get annoyed at certain dice rolls and misinterpretations of the rules, but i could care less if I lose anymore. In fact, whenever I lose, I just start laughing at the whole thing.

Anyways, moving on to sore losers now:

At my previous FLGS, there was a little kid who played. About 10 or 12, idk. He acts like a complete know-it-all (even though he knows NOTHING about 40k, he just makes up and says it's true), incredibly cocky, and the whiniest loser I have ever seen. We play a game, my CSM vs. his ultrasmurfs (that btw, had a horrible paintjob). 1000pts, and I smash him. The whole time, he's trying to cheat, accusing me of being a liar when I pull out some CSM rule that his SM doesn't have, b****es every time I kill a simple tactical marine, and acts like a total baby. The whole time I'm trying to be polite and not walk to the other side of the table and beat the h*** out of him (I'm 17. We're supposed to be role models for the younger kids).

When the game is over, I go over to try and shake his hand and I say, "Good game **insert kid's name here**." He just gives me a death glare and goes off on one of his pathetic rants, swearing and everything. Finally, I just snap and tell him, "Listen here you little . I did NOT cheat at all, I played by the rules. You were the one who kept cheating, whining and all out b****ing the entire time. I was being polite and just trying to have fun. Just because you suck at warhammer doesn't give you the right to be a little about it. So shut up, quit your b****ing and cheating, and play the d*** game. Cuz I swear if you keep it up, I will kick your scrawny little a**." I'm pretty sure I scared and scarred him for life because nobody ever saw him come back to our FLGS.