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I came up with a viable argument against 'common sense'. Complete gak, but in a way, it works.

Pika_power wrote:I came up with a viable argument against 'common sense'.

Doesn't everyone do that on the internet?

Touché.

I would approach BL in the same way people approach the Star Wars Expanded Universe. There's the Core Canon, (In this case all GW materials such as the main rule book and the Codices). Then we have the Secondary Canon which would be the Black Library, licensed works in the 40k that are not written by the people who write the core canon. Secondary Canon can be considered canon so long as it does not contradict the Core Canon. Then there is Apocrypha, which are works that contradict Core and Secondary Canon, back still exist in the great multitude of works for 40k (These are what if stories, alternate timelines, and retconned material). Then there's fan fiction which is just for fun :p.

In all respect as long as the BL stuff doesn't contradict the give facts of what GW directly publishes there's no reason to consider it anything but canon as to the 40k universe.

On the note of Groto, I'm sure we can find plenty of contradictions in his work... Let's just degrade it to horribly written fan fiction and call it a day :p

LordofHats wrote:
On the note of Groto, I'm sure we can find plenty of contradictions in his work... Let's just degrade it to horribly written fan fiction and call it a day :p

Sounds like a plan.

If he were at least a fan of Eldar and not hating them so much.

@Emperors Faithful: While it was a "plains world" the population was gathered into an "industrial city". So the fighting was likely in hive-like conditions.

@ Insaniak: Actually that was their only world back then. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Angels (check recruitment)

Generally, I take it as cannon, apart from the more ridiculous pieces of fluff *cough* goto *cough*

@CrazyThang: Still then, that's only one city. And if this is a primitive plains nation talking then the "Industrial city" was likely more of a town.

doesn't anyone seem to realize that "Goto" is just the shortened version of his full, 2 line last name?

10 print "Multilasers Useless Crap Multilasers"
20 Goto 10


I mean, I thought it was obvious after reading some of this guy's drivel....

...I don't get it.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:...I don't get it.

that's because you're not an older-school programmer. It's a really BASIC joke....

...I don't get it either.

Emperors Faithful wrote:...I don't get it either.

Already addressed this issue and explained it.... If you've never played with BASIC, it'll probably just go over your head anyhow...

...

In the ST vs IoM thread there was a good quote from BL author, essentially stating that nothing int eh books should be treated as "true" - they may be myths, legends, exaggerations, etc.

So by that token BL is not canon. Neither are codexes and the BRB, as they again do not maintain any thing like a consistent history / timeline / etc

So you end up with the same answer as Kill said earlier: There is no canon.