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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/30 16:19:59
Subject: No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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Screaming Banshee
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Tbh price rises don't affect demand from me at all... I don't want MORE, no, but I won't stop because of price hikes (well, small ones at least).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 01:17:03
Subject: No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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JohnHwangDD wrote:Point of fact: GW sets a price floor for the other players in the market. Nobody stays around with a business model that undercuts GW prices when gamers have demonstrated again and again that they will pay ever-increasing amounts for their toys.
Mantic? $60 for 100 miniatures, a rulebook (written by the Alessio Cavatore), and a Mantic Journal. Mantic seems to be acquiring quite the market share and fan following due to its lower prices. Every company has its rabid fans, but not many of them have rabid fans without a released rulebook.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 04:06:09
Subject: No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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A luxury item is, in the briefest definition, anything that is not required to maintain a living. However, some items can be both. For example, food is not a luxury item, but going to a restaurant is, for you could have gotten that food at the store and made it yourself (probably for half the cost).
Gaming supplies and equipment are luxury items. Just deal with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 05:16:56
Subject: No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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Hunter with Harpoon Laucher
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Lord-Ironfist UNA wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:Point of fact: GW sets a price floor for the other players in the market. Nobody stays around with a business model that undercuts GW prices when gamers have demonstrated again and again that they will pay ever-increasing amounts for their toys.
Mantic? $60 for 100 miniatures, a rulebook (written by the Alessio Cavatore), and a Mantic Journal. Mantic seems to be acquiring quite the market share and fan following due to its lower prices. Every company has its rabid fans, but not many of them have rabid fans without a released rulebook.
Not even close.) Mantic has no market share at all yet. Most players don't know they exist. Give them a year or two and I expect great things out of them, but don't overpraise them right now, or overstate their popularity.
That said, I look forward to what they have to offer in the next year. Good guys, good miniatures.
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....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 09:57:53
Subject: Re:No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Laughing Man wrote:NAVARRO wrote:JOHIRA wrote:Games Workshop says they're Green & Black's and deserve Green & Black's-level prices, but the quality of their product fluctuates all over the place- sometimes at that same high quality level as Green & Black's, often dropping down to the Mars/Cadbury level, and sometimes even dipping to sub-Hershey level. They have no consistency. And yet they claim they want to dominate the market like Cadbury and Mars do. It just doesn't work.
Well GW can say what they want... One cannot say they arent consistent about gauging prices
Seriously though their quality of late is getting to excelent levels.
*cough*
To get to excelent levels is a hard road with some holes on the way... lets just say the minos are a freaking cratter  But you cannot close your eyes to the bigger percentage of great kits and minis GW has been releasing.
Believe me Im no fanboy of any company but I give credit to who IMO deserves it... and GW lately is really delivering the goods much more consistently than a couple years ago...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 11:16:58
Subject: No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Ok reading through this I'd like a quick clarification.
If something is an essential it's a must have. therefore food, hygene products, housing costs and certain services (electric, water etc) are essentials.
Now everything beyond that is not an essential, for example products for our wargaming hobbies would therefore be a luxury item? So what are they if not luxuries as they are not essential. Or am I wrong in thinking that and should have been giving my kids a box of space marines when money was tight as they would magicly sustain them. To me buying a DVD is a luxury, hell comics for my kids again luxury.
Just curious here as in economics things were split into two categories for us essentials and luxuries but then it was just very basic back then.
Edit: this makes sense in my head, yet reading it I'm confusing myself but I think theres enough sense from a bleary tired old man to get the point across. not essential to living therefore luxury. And don't compare cars a car no matter if its a new ferrari or an old rust heap is a luxury as you do not NEED that item to live, some may be status symbols however a luxury is a luxury status symbol or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/31 16:39:16
Subject: No, GW minis are not luxury items.
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Vermillion wrote:Ok reading through this I'd like a quick clarification.
If something is an essential it's a must have. therefore food, hygene products, housing costs and certain services (electric, water etc) are essentials.
Now everything beyond that is not an essential, for example products for our wargaming hobbies would therefore be a luxury item? So what are they if not luxuries as they are not essential. Or am I wrong in thinking that and should have been giving my kids a box of space marines when money was tight as they would magicly sustain them. To me buying a DVD is a luxury, hell comics for my kids again luxury.
Just curious here as in economics things were split into two categories for us essentials and luxuries but then it was just very basic back then.
Edit: this makes sense in my head, yet reading it I'm confusing myself but I think theres enough sense from a bleary tired old man to get the point across. not essential to living therefore luxury. And don't compare cars a car no matter if its a new ferrari or an old rust heap is a luxury as you do not NEED that item to live, some may be status symbols however a luxury is a luxury status symbol or not.
Not to go off topic, but I'll disagree with cars in the united states. I won't say cars are a necessity, but having access to a carpool or some other form of motorized transportation certainly is a necessity to hold down a job in part of the United States. Many jobs have completely disappeared from rural areas, and people have to drive into the city ( more specifically the suburbs surrounding the city) to work, mostly service sector jobs. I'm not saying thats the way it should be, but that is the way it is where I am.
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