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Henners91 wrote:

AbaddonFidelis wrote:The Black Legion is Awesome.

All twelve million of them.

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hmmm, ultras simply because i hate them so much

Cryonicleech wrote:Blood Ravens.

Damn, you're telling me 15 or so marines can take on an entire Hive Fleet invasion whilst kicking Eldar and Ork ass? That's ridiculous.

Actually, if you pay attention you'll notice that Guard are fighting on all three planets (there's a piece of wargear that lets you get artillery support from the PDF based on how many communication arrays you have). The Blood Ravens are, effectively, doing their damndest to ensure the Guard and PDF forces aren't overwhelmed by attacking the most critical locations of the enemy. And of course, given the Blood Ravens have many fortresses on the desert world, you can be sure that more than just fifteen Marines are defending that one-- actually, on the mission where you can see plenty of Blood ravens fighting, including Davian Thule himself, a predator, and several tactical, scout, and devastator squads.

Melissia wrote:

Cryonicleech wrote:Blood Ravens.

Damn, you're telling me 15 or so marines can take on an entire Hive Fleet invasion whilst kicking Eldar and Ork ass? That's ridiculous.

Actually, if you pay attention you'll notice that Guard are fighting on all three planets (there's a piece of wargear that lets you get artillery support from the PDF based on how many communication arrays you have). The Blood Ravens are, effectively, doing their damndest to ensure the Guard and PDF forces aren't overwhelmed by attacking the most critical locations of the enemy. And of course, given the Blood Ravens have many fortresses on the desert world, you can be sure that more than just fifteen Marines are defending that one-- actually, on the mission where

Spoiler:

Thule gets "killed" and has to be put in stasis to be turned int a dreadnought

you can see plenty of Blood ravens fighting, including Davian Thule himself, a predator, and several tactical, scout, and devastator squads.

You'll actually also notice that several hundred Marines die over the course of the game - or less, if you're good at keeping your own guys alive.

...when your Marines die, and you replenish them using a beacon, do you think those are the same Marines coming back from the dead?

No.

You're playing several hundred marines, not several.

Just a handful at a time.

Blood Ravens are darn cool! Also, they are mentioned in the painted guys section of the most recent Marine Codex. The lamest is probably the Blood Angels, in my honest opinion. Don't rip me bloody ead off though. Either blood angels, or my own chapter until if de-*%&@ the fluff of them.

As for my opinion... the Sons of Malice. Their fluff is ridiculously fanboyish, and to Sisters players it's just plain insulting.

AbaddonFidelis wrote:the Black Legion? Really? They're like the heart and soul of chaos.... the praetorians of the war-master himself.... a tragedy of misplaced loyalty... brought nearly to extinction and now rising phoenix like from the ashes of the Sons of Horus legion to become the scourge of the imperium, at the forefront of every unholy crusade waged against the hated imperium.

The Black Legion is Awesome.

They have some nice background, but they are kinda like the Ultramarines of the Chaos Space Marines. They have no real theme and pretty generic looking tbh.

Melissia wrote:As for my opinion... the Sons of Malice. Their fluff is ridiculously fanboyish, and to Sisters players it's just plain insulting.

Ah Christ... Incoming poopstorm ahead. Deploy the umbrellas.

funny you should mention sons of malice.... Melissa.... I actually like them alot quite independent of their fluff battle with sisters... I just think their quartered color scheme is cool and it makes sense that chaos would have a god personifying the force of self destruction, since chaos by its very nature works against itself so much.

Besides dread axes, their chapter weapon if you will, were the shiznit in 3.5
AF


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trygon
yeah black legion is definitely the chaos counter part to ultra marines. I dont like the way they redid their fluff as being a mish mash of renegades all wearing the same armor. It used to be that they were the hard-azzed embittered praetorians of a fallen god, the most die hard fanatical haters of the imperium. Now their fluff is pretty disorganized. I also like their character. Other renegades worship the chaos gods. The Black Legion can worship 1 god 1 week and another the next, because their real religion is.... themselves. As with Lucifer pride was their down fall.

about the poop storm.... if it happens it wont be from me. I've already had the sisters discussion I'm pretty much done with it. If people start arguing about it I'll sit it out.
AF

I know the old fluff well. I have 3.5 too. But I still find them dull. Might be because of the studio army I guess. Seeing the same scheme over and over does that.

Always something new to learn!

I have to admit to really never having heard of the Sons of Malice.

They are certianly no more fanboy-ish than Sisters themselves, actually.

What they are is silly, much like most of the Chaos Space Marines outside of the Original Sinners.

Anyway, the problem with threads like this is that someone is going to be a 'funny guy' and say Space Wolves, then the Space Wolves fans jump in, rage, rinse, repeat.

Basically, threads that are, in essence, negative?

Not sure how much longer this one's got, really.

AbaddonFidelis wrote:

Henners91 wrote:

AbaddonFidelis wrote:The Black Legion is Awesome.

All twelve million of them.

slight edit

Meh, exaggeration on my part but I'd read that they were small in numbers... even with the volunteers from other sources.

The lamer-est:

Space Vampire tragic renaissance marines chapter.
Space Vikings with occasional lycanthropy issues chapter.
Space monks (Yep, pretty much the rest of them).

The like, Ultra-marine ones. Just because I hated them in the RT rulebook, let alone later.

Doom Eagles. Marines so shiny that they look like the Cylons from the old Battlestar Galactica Series.....wait does that make them awesome or terrible

space angel vampire tragic berserk doomed crazy renaissance marine chapter.

oh course whole 1th company with supports should be killed by single sister....

I like the rainbow warriors for some reason! On lexicanum the picture shows them blue withrainbow stripes on their head.

I hate salamanders mainly because i think its stupid having jet black skin and red eyes come on games workshop no more cheesy chapters!

Anyone else notice that the Lamentors.. are actually the Lame-ntors?

I vote for them being the lamest.. as they seem to be the ONLY chapter that even encorporates the word "Lame" in the chapter name.

-P

Porkuslime- I think you'll find that any chapter with the word "flame" also incorporates the word "lame".

Henners91 wrote:

Kurgash wrote:Blood Ravens. They don't even exist as far as canon is concerned in the codex.

Page 112 5th edition codex.

Please check your facts before you insult my first army


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Space Wolves bother me intensely whereas in-game terms Blood Angels are lame... even if Sanguinus is my favourite Primarch.


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Smarteye wrote:I like the ultramarines fluff, the whole "hey were roman/greek soldiers" vibe is cool in theory. It just doesn't translate well to the minis. Blue and yellow are boring colors imo.

The worst HAS got to be Rainbow Warriors, not only do they sound like space queers, but their based off of Aztec warriors? I don't know about you but I don't want to model my army off of people that got roflstomped by SPAIN. Thats allmost worse than being beaten by France...allmost

Smallpox had nothing to do with that...

And Spain was undisputed master of ze world for night on a century!

What's wrong with Blood Ravens? at least they don't have the problems of other chapters.... apart the lulzy speach of some of their officers....

yeah... we were the true "plague bearers" of that time....after the rats...


Any problem with us Smarteye?

Leo_the_Rat wrote:Porkuslime- I think you'll find that any chapter with the word "flame" also incorporates the word "lame".

Where is that face-palm Ork gif..

Leo.. you are SO right.. I musta had blinders on.

porkuslime wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:Porkuslime- I think you'll find that any chapter with the word "flame" also incorporates the word "lame".

Where is that face-palm Ork gif.

Just on the left...

svendrex wrote:Doom Eagles. Marines so shiny that they look like the Cylons from the old Battlestar Galactica Series.....wait does that make them awesome or terrible

tbh I think the biggest turn off for the Doom Eagles is how much they remind you that you are going to die eventually.

svendrex wrote:Doom Eagles. Marines so shiny that they look like the Cylons from the old Battlestar Galactica Series.....wait does that make them awesome or terrible

Doom Eagles don't look bad. They have a decent name, an oddly original colour scheme, and good contrast. My main problem with the Doom Eagles is that I don't really like metallic colours on miniatures.

However if someone was to paint up a chapter of Doom Eagles using a non metallic metal effect

Like THIS

Well surely then; they would be hands down the most awesome chapter ever!

terribletrygon wrote:

Ah Christ... Incoming poopstorm ahead. Deploy the umbrellas.

I just looked up the Sons of Malice and I lol'd.

The F-lame Falcons. Their fluff talks about how they all caught on fire in the heat of battle- a fire that did not hurt them, or their equipment, but only their enemies.

How do they respond to this miraculous sign of faith? They call for the inquisition because they think their geneseed is bad, then decide their geneseed is good and go party on their homeworld. The Inquisitor gets there, summons the Grey Knights and they finish off the burning marines.


That's right- a chapter of marines that is on fire. All the time. Always burning! All the time!

Never heard of the Sons of Malice until now either. Wouldn't say they're fanboyish - more just gross. Anyways its the Sisters fault for dropping right in the middle of them. Standard martyr tactics.

Leave us Angels alone or else I'll go cut myself to MCR.

Smarteye wrote:I like the ultramarines fluff, the whole "hey were roman/greek soldiers" vibe is cool in theory. It just doesn't translate well to the minis. Blue and yellow are boring colors imo.

The worst HAS got to be Rainbow Warriors, not only do they sound like space queers, but their based off of Aztec warriors? I don't know about you but I don't want to model my army off of people that got roflstomped by SPAIN. Thats allmost worse than being beaten by France...allmost

How about you actually do some reading on the Aztecs before herping and derping all over this thread?

flame not good sir..... I beseech thee

Leo_the_Rat wrote:Porkuslime- I think you'll find that any chapter with the word "flame" also incorporates the word "lame".

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