So to those who don't want to send money to Pakistan. Do you feel different about helping the Kiwis?

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**SlaveToDorkness**

whatwhat wrote:your just an impecile.

Irony, party of 1, your table is ready...

Hmmm... I guess it all depends on if the water is high enough to cover the "DIE, America, Die" signs and put out our burning flags.

No, wait....feth 'em.

Sounds harsh but maybe a good natural disaster is warranted for a lot of places about now. Hard to fight over what your little book says when you're treading water.

**Kilkrazy**

I expect the babies slip away first, then the smaller children and mothers.

**Yak9UT**

My relatives live in Christchurch so I think thier more important then Pakistans people. Fortunitly they are alright.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

My cousin's roof caved in because of the earthquake.

There were 2 serious injuries and no fatalities afaik.
Not quite the same as 1500 deaths and goodness knows how many homeless with the potential for water borne diseases.

Not had time to read all the posts and am sure this has already been pointed out.

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Sounds harsh but maybe a good natural disaster is warranted for a lot of places about now. Hard to fight over what your little book says when you're treading water.

Ho hum
it is hurricane season is it not? If only such natural disasters could be selective and pick out the chaff of righteous stupidity.

**djones520**

New Zealand is a well developed country. Aid should be offered and given, but it's not nearly as necessary as it was for Pakistan.

And the support for Pakistan is more important then just for the humanitarian aspects. We want that country to be stable. A nuclear power that has a significant terrorist problem, the worse thing we'd want is for that government to fragment.

Might not seem such a threat to you guys back home, but if the Taliban were to get their hands on one of those bombs... Well you could kiss Bagram, or Kandahar, or any other major US base in Afghanistan goodbye. And sorry, but that is not on my list of things to see happen in my lifetime.

**SlaveToDorkness**

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

Ho hum
it is hurricane season is it not? If only such natural disasters could be selective and pick out the chaff of righteous stupidity.

Some would argue that they do...

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Only the stupid, thus sadly proving the winds don't winnow the w...ell that's enough of that.

**dogma**

Gwar! wrote:No, the reason to deny aid is because on odd days the Pakistani people want to burn the US to the ground and salt the land, and on even days they want the US to give them money.

Wait, are you saying that large groups of people can make seemingly contradictory demands and requests? My God, its almost as if groups don't function in accordance with a hive mind! Quick, someone tell the Queen that her authority is in danger, clearly the peasants have discovered the written word!

**Cheesecat**

Yak9UT wrote:My relatives live in Christchurch so I think thier more important then Pakistans people. Fortunitly they are alright.

Same here.

**Kilkrazy**

I expect you guys have a chunk of money you were going to send to your relatives in Christchurch.

Now you realise they don't need it, are you going to spend it on limited edition WHFB figures?

**Cheesecat**

Kilkrazy wrote:I expect you guys have a chunk of money you were going to send to your relatives in Christchurch.

Now you realise they don't need it, are you going to spend it on limited edition WHFB figures?

Most of my relatives are fine, but some got major property damage to the point where it would be a large hole in my families pocket.

**Kilkrazy**

No earthquake insurance?

**Cheesecat**

Kilkrazy wrote:No earthquake insurance?

I don't know, I would have to ask my Mom about more info on my relatives from kiwi island.

**Ktulhut**

Cheesecat wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:No earthquake insurance?

I don't know, I would have to ask my Mom about more info on my relatives from kiwi island.

The EQC (Earthquake Commission) covers up to the first 100,000 dollars on each residential claim, the rest would be insurance. If they don't have any, then there's a mayoral fund being set up, and a central government one too, that people can apply for assistance from.

**SlaveToDorkness**

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Only the stupid...

I know you are but what am...ah feth it.

**whatwhat**

Oh I get it now. Your avatar is Tom Cruise in a Nazi uniform. Makes complete sense.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Oh dear, the best you can manage is the playground response of a 5 year old

Guess it makes a change from the lets nuke 'em response to everything that you disagree with. Which apprears to be everything seen in the shade of a black piqued officer's cap.

**SlaveToDorkness**

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Oh dear, the best you can manage is the playground response of a 5 year old

Just as pithy as "you're stupid".

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

*sigh*

I make a comment.
You retort by substituting the subect with the object as if I was referring to myself
Like kids do in the playground.
Nah nah nah nah nah nah

Well there are plenty of posts where I bluntly call myself stupid when I have gaffed. In no way is this applicable here and if it was there would be no doubt that I was the subject of my own ridicule.

At least it's been fun taking the pith out of you.

Meanwhile people are suffering but they ain't white folks so thats okay.

**Emperors Faithful**

whatwhat wrote:Oh I get it now. Your avatar is Tom Cruise in a Nazi uniform. Makes complete sense.

Hey Godwin, how're ya doing?

**whatwhat**

Emperors Faithful wrote:
whatwhat wrote:Oh I get it now. Your avatar is Tom Cruise in a Nazi uniform. Makes complete sense.

Hey Godwin, how're ya doing?

Did I get there first, really?

**Emperors Faithful**

whatwhat wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:
whatwhat wrote:Oh I get it now. Your avatar is Tom Cruise in a Nazi uniform. Makes complete sense.

Hey Godwin, how're ya doing?

Did I get there first, really?

I think so.

**whatwhat**

**Tyyr**

Wait... you mean New Zealand is it's own country? When did that happen?

In other news, they'll get aid in direct proportion to how hot their women are.

**Kilkrazy**

Hello boys...

**BluntmanDC**

whatwhat wrote:
BluntmanDC wrote:
whatwhat wrote:Erm, my point was: It's not right judging a persons right to anything based on the actions of their government. (kind of like how when the allies invaded germany they killed the nazis, not the german population in general)

You just did that again.

And how the feth is helping a country in a major, times 1000 to the power of moses, natural disaster going to make them "dependant on aid"?

"here is my house" *earthquake* "Oh gak my house is gone" *westener builds new one* "I guess my house is back, but now I am dependant on western aid." = dumb.

Actually this is how it happens, if a disaster, drought, flood or something equally crap occurs the goverment of that country should have installed safe guards and be able to give aid to its people, if a goverment starts to get foriegn aid organisations or goverments bailing them out they feel no need to change this after the disaster and don't prepare for the likely event of another such disaster occuring again. this causes a vicious cycle were the country's goverment never takes responsibility.

an example can be seen from the charities that go to african countries and install wells and safe toilet facilities, yes this is needed, but it should be that country's goverment that pays for this instead of stockpiling AKs. until we stop drip feeding aid to less fortunate countries and actual give their goverments the 'tools of leadership' they will continue to have suffering, poverty, genocide, child brutality and massive death tolls in disasters.

You either have hardly any idea of the scale of the disaster in pakistan or your just an impecile. There is no level of infrastructure which could prepare ANY country for that kind of disaster. Get real.

You have to face it when something like that happens race, government whatever else is out the window. It's your own humanity which is the deciding factor in whether you help somebody who has their world ripped out from underneath them when there is nothing they could have done about it. If their own government would rather spend the money on AKS like you say, then why do you punish the individual?

Dependencies on aid usually come in when you are pushing a people to a level of development beyond what they are at. Not when you are helping them rebuild what they did have but lost due to no fault of their own.

you may not have noticed but i never mentioned the Pakistani floods but was refering to how countries become dependent on aid, so i am not an 'impecile' (even with the spelling mistake i try to remain civil with people on the forum even if i don't agree with, try and keep dakkadakka nice).

it is actually 'when something like that happens' is one of the reasons goverments exist and are needed, in a country that goes from one extreme of weather to the other, plus with regular earthquakes, the goverment should plan for this. although it would be near improbable to stop what happened, systems could have been put in place to reduce the magnitube of it (drainage, levees, building codes) and with a military as large as Pakistan's plans could have been made as to how they would be deployed.

**Ktulhut**

Kilkrazy wrote:

Hello boys...

More like:

OH SNAP!

**Borkin**

Id send my money to NZ, theres actual infastructure to rebuild there.

**whatwhat**

Ktulhut wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:

Hello boys...

More like:

OH SNAP!

OR...

No?

**Ktulhut**

whatwhat wrote:
OR...

No?

Nah, we ate all the hobbits.