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Who would want 5 of that piece of crap?

Iago wrote:Did not happen to me but to a kid in store:

GW- So what army are you looking to start?
Kid- Well these look cool (points at Tau box)
GW- Well those guys rock...

He then proceeded to explain to the kid how awesome those firewarriors were and how they were even good in close combat!... at that point my friend stepped in and confronted the GW employee for pitching crap.

Lowl

Happened to me too. Except I knew what I was doing

GW- Hey dude, buying something today?
ME- Yeah, I'm looking at a box of these guys. How many do you have in the back? I need a bunch (Cadians, )
GW- Yeah, they're cadians. They worship the emperor. they're not as cool as these guys, space marines bawww
ME- Yeah..I knew that...
GW- Lemme go check. I think we've got like three more boxes.

I just left after that. Walked out with my hand on my face

Irdiumstern wrote:
So a GW manager tried to sell you a complete army with a unit that GW doesn't even produce ?

timetowaste85 wrote:Probably meant the Canis model Irdiumstern-5 copies of that bugger....

Yip, 5 canis wolfborn models. Because he ordered too many and nobody was buying them.

What a surprise....a guy who looks goofy and like an Ultimate Avengers version of Thor who forgot to wash...ever. And of course he's riding on top of a cartoon-wolf-thing that looks like it just took a 10-foot long enema. The mods may hit me for that comment being "not forum friendly"

When I first started playing (late 4e? when you could get 20 Cadians for 25 US dollars?) I was a few years younger and desided to play IG (The idea of play the Army of "normal guys" appealed to me, to many Captain Americas.) and went to buy a box, seeing as I could only afford a single box. And the conversation went like this:

Staff: So your buying JUST one box of cadians?
Me: Yes?
Staff: I'm guessing you missed were the codex's are?
Me: I already have one.
Staff: Okay, do you have, say, another 20 or so of those, and 3 commad squads?
Me: No, I'm just now starting, and I thought it would be cool to play IG.
Staff: Well, you HAVE to buy those other 20 and a few Command squads to be able to play.
Me: I know, but I'm fine with these 20 for now, so I can get use to building these guys.
Staff: Do you have paint?
Me: not personally, but my dad does.
Staff: How about rules and templates.
Me: Yes.
Staff: Then get some more cadians!
Me: *gives him the, I understood everything you just said look* And I said I'm fine with just these, thank you. And another thing, I'd appreciate you not cussing me out, or I just might "slip" my hand when filling out the questionnaire.
Staff: ... Your bluffing.
Me: *reaches for the questionaire* Am I?
Staff: Okay, Okay, don't report me and I'll give you the stuff you need!
Me: *smiles* Okay, you got your self a deal.



I really was bluffing.

I got one. they tried to make me buy a Flipping titan.... I'm not made of money. I have to work for my money :*(
When i do it takes at least 6 months just to get enough money to buy a venerable dreadnought

Asherian Command wrote:I got one. they tried to make me buy a Flipping titan.... I'm not made of money. I have to work for my money :*(
When i do it takes at least 6 months just to get enough money to buy a venerable dreadnought

Plastic is easier to get yet they jack the prices.

Crazy, Eh?

Ktulhut wrote:

Irdiumstern wrote:
So a GW manager tried to sell you a complete army with a unit that GW doesn't even produce ?

timetowaste85 wrote:Probably meant the Canis model Irdiumstern-5 copies of that bugger....

Yip, 5 canis wolfborn models. Because he ordered too many and nobody was buying them.

Same deal happened at my FLGS. They ordered 5 Canis kits, and noooooobody bought them. I remember when I was considering buying/converting some Thunderwolves (which I eventually did, out of HeroScape models) the regular worker there jokingly tried to push me to buy 4 of them. Probably the most ridiculous thing that anyone ever tried to get me to buy, but it was just a joke.

Cambak wrote:When I first started playing (late 4e? when you could get 20 Cadians for 25 US dollars?) I was a few years younger and desided to play IG (The idea of play the Army of "normal guys" appealed to me, to many Captain Americas.) and went to buy a box, seeing as I could only afford a single box. And the conversation went like this:

Staff: So your buying JUST one box of cadians?
Me: Yes?
Staff: I'm guessing you missed were the codex's are?
Me: I already have one.
Staff: Okay, do you have, say, another 20 or so of those, and 3 commad squads?
Me: No, I'm just now starting, and I thought it would be cool to play IG.
Staff: Well, you HAVE to buy those other 20 and a few Command squads to be able to play.
Me: I know, but I'm fine with these 20 for now, so I can get use to building these guys.
Staff: Do you have paint?
Me: not personally, but my dad does.
Staff: How about rules and templates.



Me: Yes.
Staff: Then get some more cadians!
Me: *gives him the, I understood everything you just said look* And I said I'm fine with just these, thank you. And another thing, I'd appreciate you not cussing me out, or I just might "slip" my hand when filling out the questionnaire.
Staff: ... Your bluffing.
Me: *reaches for the questionaire* Am I?
Staff: Okay, Okay, don't report me and I'll give you the stuff you need!
Me: *smiles* Okay, you got your self a deal.



I really was bluffing.

your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

Melissia wrote:A Space Marine tactical squad after I told them I was buying a Rhino for my Sisters.

Maybe he thought your sisters were playing Space Marines

Jubear wrote:your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

Or else what? He'd escalate his thuggery to physical violence?

If his idea of good sales technique is to swear at customers for not buying more, he needs to be fired. If his manager doesn't think this is a problem, he needs to be fired.

Jubear wrote:
your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

You do realize a lot of these, "So I says to the guy, I says..." stories are complete and utter fabrications, right? Designed to make the individual telling the story look a lot more ballsy than they actually were in the situation?

Well, I have an actual "so he says, so I say" but the store wasn't from GW (we have none in my country).

Me: ... and perhaps some Blood Claws.

Store guy: Nah, they suck, stick to Grey Hunters and you're all good.

Me: Okies.

There's not a single GW store within three hundred miles of where I live, so their reputation is foreign to me. Present, but distant, as if from a far-off land, much like the reputation of the Orient as being a source of spice.

But there are game stores in Louisville that sell Games Workshop products, and not a single one to which I've been has employed people that are anything but helpful and friendly.

And I get the products below retail, too, since I'm part of a weekly 40k group at one... which nets me a 10% discount on just about everything I buy there.

If they try and sell you more start haggling on price. Bulk sales and all that

Well, for me it’s a bit of a tie:

*The ‘official’ Games Workshop water cup to clean my paint brushes. I think it was about $4 USD.

or


*A small bag of plain sand that was about $10. I live in a beach community.

Not really high dollar amounts but totally ridiculous, IMO.

The only up sales I've had were for glue, paint, and ork boys when I said I had started a small ork army.

Nothing wrong with any of that, honestly. I guess I have a reasonable FLGS manager.

Hmm quite a lot of random IG stuff (including a Valkyrie) when the new codex came out.

gw staffer "You getting into IG then?"
me "Just getting the new rules, use them in my Witch Hunters"
gw "Awe cool then you want the Valkyrie, it'll be awesome"
me "Don't think they can take that"
gws "Sure they can, just take the WH as Guard allies"
me "No that won't work, I have Penitent engines and an exorcist"
gws "Have you actually read the allies rule mate?"
me "Yes I have, now here's the money for the book thank you"

I have nothing against helpful suggestions but the there is a logical reason why I don't want it and here it is followed by well buy it anyway can be a bit irritating.

The glue and paint thing on the other hand is fine, as people say it's the same as batteries and fries.

I've had some odd experiences:

*Me looking at some Ork blisters*
GW: So like Orks mate... right on. *way too enthusiastic*
Me: Well yeah... *sort of unnerved*
GW: These guys are the best you know, like seriously Marines ain't got gak on them *holds up two boxes of Tank Bustas*
Me: Aren' those guys like semi-slowed? Stupid Vehicle Rage rule thingy?
GW: No way. They can outshoot anything. They even go great with these guys called Flash Gitz - (I KID YOU NOT HE HONESTLY SAID THAT)
Me: *looks over at a table with an ork army and marine army setup for a battle* those your boyz?
GW: *beaming with pride* Uh hu this is my personal army.
Me: You realize you have too many kans, not enough runtherderz, the SAG is not going to hit anything up there and those stormboyz are going to assault a Land Raider without any PKs?
GW: You obviously don't understand how orks really work, or how SMs work either, I could show with a demo game?
Me: I think that applies to you, you have both sides deployed badly, and illegally, there's too many heavy support choices on the table and the marines need another Troops unit. *facepalm and moving to the exit*
GW: Nah its totally legal mate, totally legit.

Another store, another moron in sales, although this wasn't me, some kid, mid-teens, was buying stuff:

GW: Tactical squad and a rhino, right, so you know what else you need? You need these guys. *points to a couple of boxes stacked on the counter, all DA squads*
Kid: No thanks. I'm new to this but my brother told me what I needed
GW: No seriously you can mix and match the bits so all your stuff is Dark Angels.
Kid: No I really know what I want thank you sir..
GW: I'd also grab a Space Wolf boxset too so you can really make them cool.
Kid: No thanks sir, my big brother told me that dark angels and space wolves were for fa**ots and cheaters and you can't mix them anyway because the codexes don't work that way and the models would like slow marines. (All in one breathe)
GW:....
Kid: Thanks for the stuff.

I cracked up laughing and got banned from the store for making fun of the redshirt.

Honestly when a newby can tell that its an idiot on the other side of the counter...

Only ever had two problems at my LGS Jesters Cap.
First one:
A couple kids from canada came down to get into 40k, cheaper with the exchange rate & all, and one wanted orks while the other wanted CSM.
The current staffer was the "Magic girl" (played almost exclusively MTG) she tried to push them on the ork battleforce, CSM battle force, core rulebook, and a bunch of other things to kids who had never played before.
Normally I would have left well enough alone, she's asked me for help on 40k sales before because she knows I tend to read every codex, but then I heard this "Well we're out of the CSM codex but we do have the previous edition which will work just fine, there's only minor changes"
Now I had to step in, As they were new I didn't want them to get sticker shocked by the full cost (around $600) after a while I convince them to get the aobr set as it has everything they need to start a few games & see if they like it (12 year old kids change their mind like the tides) and the SM models could be converted and painted to be CSM. I know it's not the best but for the money they spent I was more than happy.
"Magic girl" just have me an evil look and I told her "I'm sorry, ban me if you must, but I care more about customer service than bottom line sales" - I don't even work there, I just treat most jobs like that.

Second one same store, different staffer:
My friend had started playing BA, curse him, and he wanted a rhino to go with the death company he had bought. They were out but shipments come in friday so we waited til then. No rhinos, whatever, we waited another week & still nothing.
He talked to the owner and the owner forgot to order them & his order was placed this week so it'd be another 2 weeks minimum. He turns to me and asks if I know any other LGS, before I can even answer the staffer flips the frak out on us & threatens to ban us. I haven't been back since. Not my fault you can't order things correctly.

Jubear wrote:your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

What? You'd rather have an offensive (if the cussing out part is true), pushy sales rep continuing to work there? There's far better ways to try and get someone to buy product than "Oh, you need these if you ever want to play."

Jubear wrote:

Cambak wrote:
Look at above post

your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

I threatened his job because he was cussing out a kid, or did you miss out on the and ?

Seaward wrote:

Jubear wrote:
your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

You do realize a lot of these, "So I says to the guy, I says..." stories are complete and utter fabrications, right? Designed to make the individual telling the story look a lot more ballsy than they actually were in the situation?

yeah I gathered that Ive worked as a salesmen my entire adult life and I assure you ive never seen anyone fired over a customers complaint it just annoys the hell out of me to see so many spineless little know it alls acting like they got a set

I've seen it.

To be fair he made sexual comments about a regulars girlfriend. And then managed to call GW HQ "Nazis".

Yes, this was his first week.

Jubear wrote:

Seaward wrote:

Jubear wrote:
your so cool threatning to take someones job away because they were doing what they are told to do, he was only doing his job and i tihink your lucky nerds are a gentle people

You do realize a lot of these, "So I says to the guy, I says..." stories are complete and utter fabrications, right? Designed to make the individual telling the story look a lot more ballsy than they actually were in the situation?

yeah I gathered that Ive worked as a salesmen my entire adult life and I assure you ive never seen anyone fired over a customers complaint it just annoys the hell out of me to see so many spineless little know it alls acting like they got a set

Then you've never been to West Virginia.

Jubear wrote:
yeah I gathered that Ive worked as a salesmen my entire adult life and I assure you ive never seen anyone fired over a customers complaint it just annoys the hell out of me to see so many spineless little know it alls acting like they got a set

I've certainly seen people fired over customer complaints.

What I've never seen is a quota-based salesperson trying to flog a couple extra dollars worth of stuff on a fourteen year-old only to have the lights go dim, "Eye of the Tiger" start playing in the background, and the kid come up with an epic line that leaves said salesperson absolutely gobsmacked, humbled, weeping blood, and begging the child to forgive him for his folly, as half these posts suggest happened.

Nor, for the record, have I ever seen such a thing involving an adult. Generally speaking, people politely simper and go, "Nah, thanks."

Seaward wrote:

Jubear wrote:
yeah I gathered that Ive worked as a salesmen my entire adult life and I assure you ive never seen anyone fired over a customers complaint it just annoys the hell out of me to see so many spineless little know it alls acting like they got a set

I've certainly seen people fired over customer complaints.

What I've never seen is a quota-based salesperson trying to flog a couple extra dollars worth of stuff on a fourteen year-old only to have the lights go dim, "Eye of the Tiger" start playing in the background, and the kid come up with an epic line that leaves said salesperson absolutely gobsmacked, humbled, weeping blood, and begging the child to forgive him for his folly, as half these posts suggest happened.

Nor, for the record, have I ever seen such a thing involving an adult. Generally speaking, people politely simper and go, "Nah, thanks."

That would be awesome to see though

Seaward wrote:

Jubear wrote:
yeah I gathered that Ive worked as a salesmen my entire adult life and I assure you ive never seen anyone fired over a customers complaint it just annoys the hell out of me to see so many spineless little know it alls acting like they got a set

I've certainly seen people fired over customer complaints.

What I've never seen is a quota-based salesperson trying to flog a couple extra dollars worth of stuff on a fourteen year-old only to have the lights go dim, "Eye of the Tiger" start playing in the background, and the kid come up with an epic line that leaves said salesperson absolutely gobsmacked, humbled, weeping blood, and begging the child to forgive him for his folly, as half these posts suggest happened.

Nor, for the record, have I ever seen such a thing involving an adult. Generally speaking, people politely simper and go, "Nah, thanks."

Except half of these posts don't.

The majority are just
(sales person says something massively slowed)
and customer replies
(I'll just buy this, thanks.)

And no, I don't think telling some new person to just pick up assault on black reach is a climactic eye of the tiger event. I do find it sad there's a guy who's been a store clerk his whole adult life trying to insult anyone not defending some dumb*** store clerk trying to curse out some new kid into buying bad units. Should that guy have a job in retail if he did? Nope.

At our FLGS also cards, comics, sports memrobillia, used video games ect the owner doesn't play any games however he has filled a lot of the display cases with amazing mini's and resin statues he's painted. He'll also compliment painting and modeling that he likes and harrass people if it's unpainted.

However he likes to reccommend the paint that you are least likely to use I don't know if he's trying to be funny or inspirational. When I went to buy my death company he said "oooh! Death Company, I think you need some Tentacle Pink. and placed two pots on the counter." And I just said screw it, and bought them anyways, as I had some pink horrors just waiting for some love at home.

Jubear wrote:yeah I gathered that Ive worked as a salesmen my entire adult life and I assure you ive never seen anyone fired over a customers complaint it just annoys the hell out of me to see so many spineless little know it alls acting like they got a set

We don't like being lied to.

We're savvy enough to know when we're being lied to.

Based on your comments in this thread, you've never worked as a salesman, or you're an extremely bad one.

I've worked in sales. Cell phones, in fact. And not even for the majority of my adult life - I only did it for a little over a year. However, in that time, I have absolutely seen people fired over customer complaints, especially customer complaints that involved the salesperson cussing out the customer.

Don't open your mouth until you actually know a thing or two about the topic. Thanks.