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Hit Girl is better.

General Hobbs wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Ordo Dakka wrote:"Sci-fi schoolgirl 28mm scale"

We definitely need more movies like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQmvkvgMs6Q

While I think this movie looks cool.....again, something we need less of: movies where women kick ass.

I'm tired of men being emasculated and always being the bad guy in movies. There's a reason why in the last 15 years or so women have started getting better grades in schools and dominating in the business world...we live in an anti-man society now.

More Expendables!

Actually... I dont think the women in this movie are truly 'empowered'... look at what they are wearing! I would mount them on my pedestal anyday...

On Topic: We need less forgeries in this hobby... collector's minis are now being mass produced and sold on Ebay, meaning collector's investments are depreciating rapidly...

Eg. Rackham metals... on Ebay for $10 each... cos a Polish company made moulds of certain sculpts and now are churning out inferior copies.

Today I saw a mini, previously valued at $80AUD, sell for $12AUD...

I understand that people want greater access, and these cheap forgeries may not be as detailed as the originals, but they are ruining the market for the true collectors.

RiTides wrote:lumps and bulges ftw.

Lets leave the front of my trousers out of this.

On Topic:

I don't think we need any more models that aren't Space Marines.

AvatarForm wrote:On Topic: We need less forgeries in this hobby... collector's minis are now being mass produced and sold on Ebay, meaning collector's investments are depreciating rapidly...

Eg. Rackham metals... on Ebay for $10 each... cos a Polish company made moulds of certain sculpts and now are churning out inferior copies.

Today I saw a mini, previously valued at $80AUD, sell for $12AUD...

I understand that people want greater access, and these cheap forgeries may not be as detailed as the originals, but they are ruining the market for the true collectors.

You mean "scalpers", right? Once you start talking about your minis being an investment you're not a "true collector", you're just one of those speculators that almost killed the comic book industry in the 90s.

AlexHolker wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:On Topic: We need less forgeries in this hobby... collector's minis are now being mass produced and sold on Ebay, meaning collector's investments are depreciating rapidly...

Eg. Rackham metals... on Ebay for $10 each... cos a Polish company made moulds of certain sculpts and now are churning out inferior copies.

Today I saw a mini, previously valued at $80AUD, sell for $12AUD...

I understand that people want greater access, and these cheap forgeries may not be as detailed as the originals, but they are ruining the market for the true collectors.

You mean "scalpers", right? Once you start talking about your minis being an investment you're not a "true collector", you're just one of those speculators that almost killed the comic book industry in the 90s.

I think the shoddy writing, inability to complete a storyline and disregard for the fans and history of the characters will do that now.

General Hobbs wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:On Topic: We need less forgeries in this hobby... collector's minis are now being mass produced and sold on Ebay, meaning collector's investments are depreciating rapidly...

Eg. Rackham metals... on Ebay for $10 each... cos a Polish company made moulds of certain sculpts and now are churning out inferior copies.

Today I saw a mini, previously valued at $80AUD, sell for $12AUD...

I understand that people want greater access, and these cheap forgeries may not be as detailed as the originals, but they are ruining the market for the true collectors.

You mean "scalpers", right? Once you start talking about your minis being an investment you're not a "true collector", you're just one of those speculators that almost killed the comic book industry in the 90s.

I think the shoddy writing, inability to complete a storyline and disregard for the fans and history of the characters will do that now.

Zing!

AlexHolker wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:On Topic: We need less forgeries in this hobby... collector's minis are now being mass produced and sold on Ebay, meaning collector's investments are depreciating rapidly...

Eg. Rackham metals... on Ebay for $10 each... cos a Polish company made moulds of certain sculpts and now are churning out inferior copies.

Today I saw a mini, previously valued at $80AUD, sell for $12AUD...

I understand that people want greater access, and these cheap forgeries may not be as detailed as the originals, but they are ruining the market for the true collectors.

You mean "scalpers", right? Once you start talking about your minis being an investment you're not a "true collector", you're just one of those speculators that almost killed the comic book industry in the 90s.

Sadly thats become all to common. How many special edition minis from events like Games Day do you see on ebay the day after the event starts? Everything is about making a couple $$ anymore.

Real collectors get things just to have them, when they gain in value its simply a bonus. Hence the root mean, collect, IE: to gather. The speculators/scalpers are the ones buying things simply because they can turn them around for a profit.

At this point I dont mind forgeries/copies...it means I dont have to pay $100 to some speculator for an original when i can get a copy for $15 to play the game with.

Thats where I make the split...somethings I want for my collection, so maybe Ill pay for an original if the price isnt too steep...if I just want to game with it, a fake is just fine.

AlexHolker wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:On Topic: We need less forgeries in this hobby... collector's minis are now being mass produced and sold on Ebay, meaning collector's investments are depreciating rapidly...

Eg. Rackham metals... on Ebay for $10 each... cos a Polish company made moulds of certain sculpts and now are churning out inferior copies.

Today I saw a mini, previously valued at $80AUD, sell for $12AUD...

I understand that people want greater access, and these cheap forgeries may not be as detailed as the originals, but they are ruining the market for the true collectors.

You mean "scalpers", right? Once you start talking about your minis being an investment you're not a "true collector", you're just one of those speculators that almost killed the comic book industry in the 90s.

Actually, the only collector's items I have sold are those Im forced to sell due to moving overseas. However, where I paid $100 for something to 'have it' it now does not hold the same value.

I 'have' EVERY sculpt ever released by Rackham Confrontation 1ts Ed metals. I also have duplicates Im trying to move because they serve no purpose. However, they are probably better off in a tip than on Ebay due to the dismal pricing.

Eg. Molochs just sold for $75 USD... they were priced at $1200 just 6 months ago. Why would I unload this rarest of rare minis for a pittance?

'Collectors' will pay for things... AlexHolker, you obviously cannot afford these type of items and fall into the category of buying cheap, poor imitations or do not understand the concept. But who are we to judge the motivations of others...?

Alex was agreeing with you haha

Ordo Dakka wrote:Alex was agreeing with you haha

No, he wasnt.

Space marines stuff we still need:

Storm Raven

Plastic Thunderhawk

Spartan

Collectors edition primarchs, all of them, and the Emperor figures.

AND THAT'S IT!

Leggy wrote:Space marines stuff we still need:

Storm Raven

Plastic Thunderhawk

Spartan

Collectors edition primarchs, all of them, and the Emperor figures.

AND THAT'S IT!

Actually, they have all been made... just not by GW

I've sold rare figures on eBay to shore up my finances several times, though when I bought them they weren't actually rare, but many common miniatures of the 80s are now difficult to get hold of. But as "investments" go, they've only acquired value after 20+ years and even then a lot of OOP figures are nearly worthless.

I don't think you should ever see the miniatures as being an "investment", this isn't the stock market. It's too volatile and tends to change with the trend each month or even week especially on eBay, whatever is currently seeing a surge of interest, the prices for OOP figures goes up. eBay is a poor place to sell miniatures anyway, it's not reliable if you want your "investment" to return money, a while ago I saw the figure of Asarnil the Dragonlord, for the fantasy Dogs of War range, sell for nearly £45, and that's just the metal figure, not the plastic dragon. That's just insane, but some weeks ago the very same figure sold for less than £10. It's just about who happens to be bidding at the time and what the current trend is.

There are a lot of people who grab as many limited edition figures and put them straight on eBay at inflated prices thus making it difficult for anyone to get them RRP, even those attending the very events they should be easily available at.

But I have a fair bit of sympathy for a certain level of recasting that goes on. GW released games and models ranges and then cut them with little warning and no supporrt. Things like Man o War and Inquisitor are very hard to play and collect a range of figures for because GW encouraged people to buy into the game with their usual fanfare and coverage, only to axe the game and drop the majority of miniatures from the catalogue. It's a joke when a figure is only available for a matter of months or even weeks.

'Collectors' will always buy the real thing. You don't have an entitlement to sell stuff at greatly increased value just because you've sat on it a long time, but there's always at least one spouting this "but I should be able to make lots of money but can't because of these recasters" argument. I don't buy it, I imagine recasters do undermine the second hand market price but as I said, people don't have a right to expect to sell their second hand miniatures for anything. My issue is that people are misled into buying a recast being purported as the real thing, people putting sergeant centurius recasts on eBay with a Buy it Now or £100, shame on them. Morally I'm able to live with two markets, the collectors market and a cheaper recast market, because OOP figures usually have no hope of rerelease and are required in many cases simply to play the games that GW have produced and people has bought into. But I see these OOP recasts as a means to an end for gamers, not a quick and easy way for some people to make a lot of money. Recasts are what they are and should be identifiable largely by their low value and the customer should know what they are buying into, whether it be a cheap recast or a expensive collectors piece, but passing off recasts as the real thing by charging collector level prices, that really is immoral IMO.

I've bought recasts, not really knowingly but when you have stuff in a bucket at a wargames show instead of blisters on a shelf you can never be so sure. There are numerous ways to identify a recast but few are 100% reliable, even when you can see two cast lines (though it is a frequent give away in most cases). But the vast majority of older figure I have bought were cheap, and in retrospect a couple probably are recasts. But I didn't pay much for them, I don't feel cheated, I still have the figure. But if I'd paid a great deal for it, then I'd be very unhappy indeed.

Oops, I seem to have gone on a bit but these are my thoughts on the collectors market and recasting.

For the love of God.

No more 'titties out' female models, badly sculpted with silly proportions. Instead get me some freaking excellent female models in actual combat gear, either reasonable fitting suits of armour or proper military combat fatigues. Showing a pair of wonky 3mm boobs doesn't bypass the mini looking poor.

Less, far far less, of this:


And far far more of this:

Re: Sucker Punch:

Hello, fans.

Look at Inception. Now back to this trailer. Now back at Inception. Now back to this trailer. Sadly, Inception isn't Sucker Punch. But if it'd had more WAT dream sequences, it could have looked like it was Sucker Punch.

Look down. Back up. Where are you? You are in a movie theater with the action-filled dream!movie your action-filled dream!movie could have been like!

Anything is possible when you have hot chicks and crazy awesome dreamworlds.

I'm on a dragon.

Things we don't need:

1: Gundam in 40 different scales - pick one or three and stick with it guys.

2: 'Frodo wearing the ring' entries to painting competitions:

Hey MGS, where can I get that model of the chick wielding the BFG?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:For the love of God.

No more 'titties out' female models, badly sculpted with silly proportions. Instead get me some freaking excellent female models in actual combat gear, either reasonable fitting suits of armour or proper military combat fatigues. Showing a pair of wonky 3mm boobs doesn't bypass the mini looking poor.

How about no more badly sculpted models in general? I'm looking at you, Empire State Troops.

http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/50001_p_Haley_1.jpg

Thank you for bringing this model to my attention.

Amaya wrote:Hey MGS, where can I get that model of the chick wielding the BFG?

She's from the Studio McVey range, however she's too big for 28mm heroic scale, being slightly taller than an ogryn...

However, don't despair, news is that they are going to get into 28mm

http://studiomcvey.blogspot.com/

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Amaya wrote:Hey MGS, where can I get that model of the chick wielding the BFG?

She's from the Studio McVey range, however she's too big for 28mm heroic scale, being slightly taller than an ogryn...

However, don't despair, news is that they are going to get into 28mm

http://studiomcvey.blogspot.com/

Now if we can get the 40K indy tournaments to get rid of the Citadel only rule....

Hello, fans.

Look at Inception. Now back to this trailer. Now back at Inception. Now back to this trailer. Sadly, Inception isn't Sucker Punch. But if it'd had more WAT dream sequences, it could have looked like it was Sucker Punch.

Look down. Back up. Where are you? You are in a movie theater with the action-filled dream!movie your action-filled dream!movie could have been like!

Anything is possible when you have hot chicks and crazy awesome dreamworlds.

I'm on a dragon.

Gold!

Things we don't need:

2: 'Frodo wearing the ring' entries to painting competitions:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

Things we don't need:

1: Gundam in 40 different scales - pick one or three and stick with it guys.

2: 'Frodo wearing the ring' entries to painting competitions:

Oh god, thats awesome. Sad part is there were probably entirely too many people who didnt see the humor in it and got all butt hurt.