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While possibly amusing, that completely ignores the fact that I posted, which is that the Imperial Guard get into far more fights than the Space Marines. Because there's far, FAR more of the Imperial Guard out there to actually get in fights. There's less than one Space Marine for every planet in the Imperium, but almost every planet has some kind of Guard presence. Any time the Imperium goes on the offensive, they bring Guard if they actually intend to take and keep any ground, because the second part of that is something the Astartes aren't equipped for.

Manchu says: Please keep the discussion polite.

The point i am trying to make is that although the space marines may not apper much in war at all, i still think of Space marines when i think of the imperium, not guards. Its how i work. It may be wrong but I cant change it.
Are we getting a little off topic?

Yes, it's most assuredly wrong. If you really MUST include Space Marines, just say "Imperium", because Space Marines are such a tiny part of the Imperium that the overwhelming majority of Imperial worlds go generations without a single Marine stepping on their surface.

As for off-topicness? Nah, I'm just disputing the assertion that somehow Marines even damn qualify for a position to be considered possibly maybe potentially one of the top dogs on a good day and if everyone else is feeling under the weather.

I am home sick right now. Thanks for asking. i needed some one to throw my pain at.


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btw. where are all the sm if most worlds dont even see them?

Mainly because there's only around a million Space Marines, all told. Around 1000 chapters, with 1000 Space Marines. Some are smaller (like Salamanders), some are bigger (like Black Templars), but roughly a million. Compared to Imperial Guard, who number in the untold billions.

There's just not many Space Marines to go around. And while they are always at war, there's so many wars at any one time that there's not enough Space Marines to fight in all of them, or even a good portion of them.

only around a million, thats pritty bad. I would have thought at least 10mill. Theres mroe people in New Zealand than all the space marines in the galaxy 38000 years in the future. sad

Not really. Having only a million of them limits the damage they can do if they turn traitor again.

Thats a good point. that make scense.

I say that all the factions have equal chance of survival, but for necrons who are already dead (unless their new codex changes their fluff.)

Imperium controlls the moist worlds right now, Chaos controls another plane, and tyranids and orks are takeing them down one by one. Eldar have eternity on their sides, Tau have new promise, and necrons are continually ploddding forward.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:I say that all the factions have equal chance of survival, but for necrons who are already dead (unless their new codex changes their fluff.)

The Necrons are dead? That's news.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Imperium controlls the moist worlds right now, Chaos controls another plane, and tyranids and orks are takeing them down one by one. Eldar have eternity on their sides, Tau have new promise, and necrons are continually ploddding forward.

Orks are supposed to be the most widespread, actually.

As in ,their not living, only mindless machines to weakended gods, but stiil a threat. Orks are everywhere, but not always in control.