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I think the list is good, and it won't be beaten easily, but what if you come up against an IG gun line with absolute autocannon spam, and a couple of hydras in the back. Pop go the transports and then the guys inside are easy picking for just about anything.

With more people meching up, more people are counter meching. A land raider and two devistator squads (with missiles) alone could put some serious hurt on this list, with the land raider targeting one or two fire prisms (power of the machine) and the devistators taking out the fire dragons transport. With the lack of sprit stones I really just need to stop your movement to ensure the safety of my vehicles. And then there's the rest of my army...

This list is far from unbeatable, it is good, and in the hands of a skilled player could be amazing, but there are builds that will eat it for breakfast.

Typhon wrote:I think the list is good, and it won't be beaten easily, but what if you come up against an IG gun line with absolute autocannon spam, and a couple of hydras in the back. Pop go the transports and then the guys inside are easy picking for just about anything.

With more people meching up, more people are counter meching. A land raider and two devistator squads (with missiles) alone could put some serious hurt on this list, with the land raider targeting one or two fire prisms (power of the machine) and the devistators taking out the fire dragons transport. With the lack of sprit stones I really just need to stop your movement to ensure the safety of my vehicles. And then there's the rest of my army...

This list is far from unbeatable, it is good, and in the hands of a skilled player could be amazing, but there are builds that will eat it for breakfast.

How Does Eldar Counter Mech besides Fire Dragons, Wave Serpents with Heavy Weapons, and Falcons/Walkers/Prisms.

I dont consider Vypers an option, an armor 10 unit with 1 BS3 Shot is a joke and not competitive although it can be used to some effect.

I dont consider Vypers an option, an armor 10 unit with 1 BS3 Shot is a joke and not competitive although it can be used to some effect.

I don't get this, War walkers are just as fragile (maybe even more so, because you can't zoom away out of LOS/for a cover save) but they take a valuable HS slot. Where the Viper takes a otherwise pretty useless FA slot. Which is huge, if you ask me.
A dual Shuriken Cannon Viper cost as much as a dual Scatter Laser Warwalker. The ww has more shots and range, but the latter doesn't hurt he Viper to much because of its greater mobility.

Open-topped.

And the lack of Scouts. Outflanking really props War-walker survivability and usefulness.