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I think I know why.

Manchu wrote:You know exactly why.

Sex sells.

If we're talking truly sexual encounters (of varying CR) then, yeah, I'm in the fade to black camp. I was more reacting to some of the antipathy towards any kind of romantic content in RP, especially the idea that this kind of 'ick, feelings!' reaction is somehow less nerdy. Everyone I know who plays RPGs, and certainly the group I GM for, are mature and sensible people, but I guess I'm just lucky.

htj wrote:

Manchu wrote:You know exactly why.

Sex sells.

If we're talking truly sexual encounters (of varying CR) then, yeah, I'm in the fade to black camp. I was more reacting to some of the antipathy towards any kind of romantic content in RP, especially the idea that this kind of 'ick, feelings!' reaction is somehow less nerdy. Everyone I know who plays RPGs, and certainly the group I GM for, are mature and sensible people, but I guess I'm just lucky.

It just seem kind of lame describing make-believe sex with your RPG character around a bunch of grimy nerds. Fade to black seems a lot less awkward.

Cheesecat wrote:It just seem kind of lame describing make-believe sex with your RPG character around a bunch of grimy nerds. Fade to black seems a lot less awkward.

I agree with that. As I said, I'm pro-roleplayed-romance, anti-roleplayed-sex. There's a whole other kind of roleplaying for that kind of thing.

htj wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:It just seem kind of lame describing make-believe sex with your RPG character around a bunch of grimy nerds. Fade to black seems a lot less awkward.

I agree with that. As I said, I'm pro-roleplayed-romance, anti-roleplayed-sex. There's a whole other kind of roleplaying for that kind of thing.

Well lust and love aren't always the same thing, although they can often be related. It's a lot less weird in my opinion to role-play romance over sex.

Cheesecat wrote:

htj wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:It just seem kind of lame describing make-believe sex with your RPG character around a bunch of grimy nerds. Fade to black seems a lot less awkward.

I agree with that. As I said, I'm pro-roleplayed-romance, anti-roleplayed-sex. There's a whole other kind of roleplaying for that kind of thing.

Well lust and love aren't always the same thing, although they can often be related. It's a lot less weird in my opinion to role-play romance over sex.

Absolutely. Personally, I would find it tacky to roleplay out a sex-scene. That's a private moment between characters, after all. Even NPCs deserve some privacy. What I was disagreeing with was the idea that all romantic interaction should be cut out of RP. The only reason to cut it is if it's making people feel awkward. Which, to be fair, some people will feel.

htj wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

htj wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:It just seem kind of lame describing make-believe sex with your RPG character around a bunch of grimy nerds. Fade to black seems a lot less awkward.

I agree with that. As I said, I'm pro-roleplayed-romance, anti-roleplayed-sex. There's a whole other kind of roleplaying for that kind of thing.

Well lust and love aren't always the same thing, although they can often be related. It's a lot less weird in my opinion to role-play romance over sex.

Absolutely. Personally, I would find it tacky to roleplay out a sex-scene. That's a private moment between characters, after all. Even NPCs deserve some privacy. What I was disagreeing with was the idea that all romantic interaction should be cut out of RP. The only reason to cut it is if it's making people feel awkward. Which, to be fair, some people will feel.

Totally, if romance is pulled off well and is more believable than the average Hollywood movie then I have no problem just don't bring up in-depth details of sex.

I had a great example of this in an Eberron campaign I ran recently. A particularly naive PC (the character, not the player) engaged with a surprisingly tender and painfully awkward (again, character) romance throughout the campaign. It culminated in him losing his innocence in a tasteful fade to black. Really added depth to the character and to the whole campaign.

Ahtman wrote:

htj wrote:as long as you have a mature and sensible group

Here is your problem, we are talking about people who play RPG's, not mature and sensible people.

Erotic Roleplay is just the sex part, that is why it isn't called Relationship Roleplay. I don't think characters having relationships has been questioned, it is when it they want to start rp'ing the sexual encounters that it can be problematic for some, maybe not for others. Thus the question in the title.

You are also forgetting that many who play RPGs have never had a relationship... or sex... hence, the reason for Rulebooks to explain how it is to be accomplished "in-universe"... they have no experience in the real world in order to bring with them to the RP... aside from their imaginations.

AvatarForm wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

htj wrote:as long as you have a mature and sensible group

Here is your problem, we are talking about people who play RPG's, not mature and sensible people.

Erotic Roleplay is just the sex part, that is why it isn't called Relationship Roleplay. I don't think characters having relationships has been questioned, it is when it they want to start rp'ing the sexual encounters that it can be problematic for some, maybe not for others. Thus the question in the title.

You are also forgetting that many who play RPGs have never had a relationship... or sex... hence, the reason for Rulebooks to explain how it is to be accomplished "in-universe"... they have no experience in the real world in order to bring with them to the RP... aside from their imaginations.

Wait there's RPG's that have rules for sex and romance?!?

Cheesecat wrote:

AvatarForm wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

htj wrote:as long as you have a mature and sensible group

Here is your problem, we are talking about people who play RPG's, not mature and sensible people.

Erotic Roleplay is just the sex part, that is why it isn't called Relationship Roleplay. I don't think characters having relationships has been questioned, it is when it they want to start rp'ing the sexual encounters that it can be problematic for some, maybe not for others. Thus the question in the title.

You are also forgetting that many who play RPGs have never had a relationship... or sex... hence, the reason for Rulebooks to explain how it is to be accomplished "in-universe"... they have no experience in the real world in order to bring with them to the RP... aside from their imaginations.

Wait there's RPG's that have rules for sex and romance?!?

if you had read the entire thread... yes.

DnD has the Book of Erotic Fantasy

Just to be clear, that wasn't published by WotC but was published under the OGL.

review

Manchu wrote:Just to be clear, that wasn't published by WotC but was published under the OGL.

review

Wow, that was hilarious. Anyways I think that perfectly explains why RPG players don't need a role-playing book that goes in-depth on sex part of RPG's.

I am speechless. If I had not just read that review I would have thought the existence of such a book was a joke.

Please tell me that no one actually uses it in their games.

snurl wrote:I am speechless. If I had not just read that review I would have thought the existence of such a book was a joke.

Please tell me that no one actually uses it in their games.

Might use it as inspiration for my Fallout RPG.

I remember flipping through it at Borders once.

It was good for a laugh and I toyed with the idea of creeping out my gaming group with some of the weirder parts of the book, but decided against it. There are rules for an STD in that book known as "Azure Balls" IIRC, which made me chuckle a bit in spite of myself.

I dont play RPGs (tried once no one in my area was into it) But I kinda look at them as a chance to be something your not or make your charecter behave in ways you would not in real life.

I can get laid in real life I cannot however slay a dragon or cast spells so it seems a bit odd
to waste time on erotic roleplay in the same way it would be boring to RP your guy doing the dishes or some other mundane task.

Manchu wrote:Just to be clear, that wasn't published by WotC but was published under the OGL.

review

Regardless, it is aimed at and accepted in the DnD systems.

I have played in adventures where our DM used it and I have it handy (as a PDF) in case my present group decides it is necessary.

snurl wrote:I am speechless. If I had not just read that review I would have thought the existence of such a book was a joke.

Please tell me that no one actually uses it in their games.

Read above.

What about encounters with a succubus? It always leads to some type of "sexual" experience.

Heck, in a campaign I am playing in, a Pathfinders game, I have demons chasing my character because her mother was a celestial demon hunter of renown (my character is a Human Celestial Sorceress/Fighter multiclass) which would hunt demons in the planes and piked their heads on the end of a spear to display them to all the other demons. To make a very long winded story short (I written up a several page background story for my character), they are after the soul of the daughter of the famous demon hunter as it would be worth a ton in the hells so the demons decided to suduce my party with succubi and assault us with Ice Devils and several other dudes. It ened up with the Barbarian in our group clutching with the succubus and basically stripping naked before the Barbarian's superstition kicked in and he totally lopped off her head with a giant axe.

Honestly, I think going as far as intercourse, I also agree with the "fade to black" scene.

Jubear wrote:

I can get laid in real life I cannot however slay a dragon or cast spells

I can do all three...

One of the reasons I'm an advocate of having relationships in our games, is other than the fact it's an entirely natural idea. (Folks in fantasy settings need relationships as well. )

Is the result of said relations, some key NPC's in my fantasy setting, and even occasional new games have been based around the children from previous character relationships.

It can make things pretty interesting when you are playing the 6th generation family head of the character who formed the family a couple hundred years before.

Especially when one of your pals is an Elf who knew said great... (enter multiple) Grandfather as a friend.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:(enter multiple)

LOL, "enter multiple" . . . and no, we can't have nice things.

Manchu wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:(enter multiple)

LOL, "enter multiple" . . . and no, we can't have nice things.

MDS referred to "Great, great, great, great... etc Grandfather"

Not whatever you interpretted.

Hahaha, I was just living up to the stereotype we've been joking about around here. No offense intended!

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:One of the reasons I'm an advocate of having relationships in our games, is other than the fact it's an entirely natural idea.

And I don't think anyone has disagreed with that sentiment at all. RPG's are really about relationships and fighting so it is important. Describing a sexual encounter is not the same thing as having a relationship and is the question that was raised, not "Should their be relationships in RPG's?".

@Manchu hehehe

And Ahtman, that was probably a reading comprehension fail by myself.
I thought someone had suggested that they'd not do any kind of relationships, but it seems it wasn't as servere as I thought, reading back.

No worries.

My current character is married and has a daughter. It seems normal. I did have to warn off our half-orc and swashbuckler with threats of soul imprisonment in the shadowfell or somesuch since they are orc/man-sluts.

@AvatarForm. I'm having difficulty understanding your stance. Just to clear things up for me, are you for erotic encounters, or against them?

htj wrote:@AvatarForm. I'm having difficulty understanding your stance. Just to clear things up for me, are you for erotic encounters, or against them?

Against them, however, prepared to handle them tastefully when they arise.

Perform it with class.

''Good evening, wench. Meet me in the bed chamber. NOW!''
(at the last word he points his cane outwards)