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Cheers for the advice, Philld

Gonna hopefully build and prime my marine tomorrow night.

Thought I would post a pic of two of my marines to show both what the colour scheme is in real life, as well as where i can (very easily) improve



Obviously these have never got beyond the WIP stage! But they do point out where I have just been shoddy and will act as a basis for comparison with my new effort.

Taking photos really showsup the glaring errors. Am hoping that using primer instead of skull white out of the pot will help me achieve a smoother, even basecoat. The chaos black is way too think. I'm pretty sure i was watering it down but clearly not enough. Likewise with the bronze trim and aquilas - bronze shoulder trim represents sergeants and vets. AM thinking of using a different technique from now on. And then theres all the uneven wash. That will need to be addressed also. There's plenty of other places to improve, including the eyes, but i will deal with these as they arise.

Urrah!

I've built the marine, but i gotta ask

Does primer take a few stages to actually work?

Had a go last night and the result is very much like my old system of brushign skull white outta a pot! Do i need to apply a few light coats, allowing them to dry inbetween application?

Axlbush wrote:I've built the marine, but i gotta ask

Does primer take a few stages to actually work?

Had a go last night and the result is very much like my old system of brushign skull white outta a pot! Do i need to apply a few light coats, allowing them to dry inbetween application?

It depends on what you mean by "actually work". Sometimes (especially with metal models) it takes a few coats to get the model 100% covered. Most times it takes a few different angles to get primer in all the nooks and crannies. I have never noticed the multiple coats being a problem, but I guess it also depends on what primer you're using...

Hello mate. When i say work, i mean that when i see pics of other peoples primed models they are usually a nice perfect white. To be fair it was freezing last night so i was in a hurry and I didn't have the best light to work with but i reckon i gave it a good layer and it looks only "half primed"; paint pooling in recesses etc. What i was really asking was do you usually just need to give it one coat of prime?

Axlbush wrote:Hello mate. When i say work, i mean that when i see pics of other peoples primed models they are usually a nice perfect white. To be fair it was freezing last night so i was in a hurry and I didn't have the best light to work with but i reckon i gave it a good layer and it looks only "half primed"; paint pooling in recesses etc. What i was really asking was do you usually just need to give it one coat of prime?

Priming in the cold always screws things up. Something about the aerosol, I think. The paint shouldn't be pooling at all, might be an effect of the cold, might be something else. I usually need more than one coat, but for complete coverage, not for color quality. Then again, I usually prime with black...

A mixture of freezing weather, deadlines and trips away have kept me away from dakka and the Scythes recently. However whilst bunking off the gym at lunchtime a couple of weeks ago i found this little treasure as i mooched around the local shopping centre.



This was a brilliant little find. Its got space for tools, paints, bits and most conveniently, enough seperate compartments to keep WIP projects such as my scouts together. Perfect for a scatty lad like me, and an all round bargain at 6 quid.

But onwards and upwards.

Here he is. Battle-Brother Antoli Kunitsyn of Squad Rhyzkov, Fourth Company, Scythes of Dorn



I'm pleased with the stance. I wanted him to look more aggresive than your standard tac marine. The knife looks suitably "killy" but to enhance its size i used a chainsword arm to add an eagle headed pommel to the blade. Unfortunately, the arm already had a shoulder pad attached and i somehow missed the fact the pad has a dent in it til I'd broken out the plastic glue. I suppose it will give me the opportunity to try out some battle damage.

Now I have to ask, is he primed enough? As mentioned previously I had troubles with spraying him, mainly cos the temperature was so blooming cold! I gave him a couple of coats and then fixed it up with some skull white on a brush. Annoyingly his blu tacked head in now stuck fast.

Next stage will be the bleached bone of the suit. I don't have aspray gun so this will be done with pot and brush. Any advice would be appreciated on the best method to use - i'm talking a real painting for dummies request here. How much to water paint? What size brush? Any little pointers and tips will be truly appreciated.

Urrah!

Not sure about the scheme think it needs a little more black possibly the exhaust 'nodules' on the back pack would be a good start. Possibly the elbow pads as well.

As for the primer.
It looks like it was sprayed too close, it has run slightly before drying. Coldness can effect primer as well, keep the spray can in the warmest room in the house and dont spray anything if it is below 5 degrees c out side.

Also Is it gw primer? They are Notoriously changable, you can get one can that gives godly coverage the next will be like that or worse, grainy.

If you want guaranteed good results Tamiya do a surface primer designed for plastic that is very expensive but amazing.

@ perkustin - Cheers for the feedback, fella. Yeah, i sprayed him a couple of weeks back when the weather was defo under 5 degrees! Lighting was an issue also.
Wasn't a GW one, it was from Halfords. Got one locally to me and thought i would it try. Imagine it was the conditions more than the spray itself that were the problem. Should one coat normally do the job?
Will take your comments re scheme onboard tho when viewed at tabletop distance i think it does itself more justice than in closeup pics.

Anyone out there got tips for laying on the bleached bone?

Axlbush wrote:Anyone out there got tips for laying on the bleached bone?

Layers, my good friend. Layers I don't use a lot of bleached bone anymore, but I've been going through whole pots of Kommando Khaki. Patience is the trick. If you're priming with white though, shouldn't be too much of a problem. If I remember correctly, Bleached Bone is a particularly thick paint. Remember to thin it down.

Best of Luck!

Can you revive your own old threads? About to find out I guess.

Can't say I have been away from the hobby but haven't really been doing too much in regards to painting til recently. Not sure it's been the best received edition of the game but 8th edition has been somewhat of a blessing as it's got me and my mate playing again. Three battles may not seem a lot to you guys but that's a whole lot more than we played the decade before it was released.

Still using my old Scythes and have decided to start painting some new units. Am still a slow painter but thanks to watching YouTube tutorials (mainly Duncan), I am starting to feel like I am improving.

Still not completely sold on mixed primaris and standard marine armies so am sticking to the classic models. Currently working on tac squad so here, have a WIP of a marine, sans shoulder pads.

Will the pic actually attach.........?






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My edge highlighting needs more work but I reckon I will stick with this guy as is. The highlighting should improve as I progress

Pic is the wrong way round This dude looks like a great improvement than the above ones. Very clean, I see you've been converted to the "two thin coats" way of life now

I'm the same as you man, 8th got me back into slamming hams big time!

Thanks, man. To be fair its simply zandri dust spray then a wash in the details - I took the choice of a darker shade for the armour mostly for ease and have ended up really liking it.

How do I rotate the pic? I added it as an attachment and it just appeared like that