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Some of the rises aren't that bad, but the rises on Battleforces/Battalions is insane. £55, I'd gladly pay, but £60+, is a bit much. Glad to see some of the tanks haven't gone up that much, but in relation to this look at how much an Imperial Guard, Ork or Tyranid army is going to cost now. Those Nid warriors are so not worth £25.
Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
Given the sheer number of metals (now into resin) elites that are must haves in the tyranid army with their price going through the roof and now this farce with the plastics for that range also dramatically increasing...
Puscifer wrote:...look at how much an Imperial Guard, Ork or Tyranid army is going to cost now. Those Nid warriors are so not worth £25.
Nope. £18 for a box of 12 gaunts is also pretty brutal when you think how many little gribblies you need in a vaguely survivable force. Warriors are already not the number one most popular choice in a lot of 'nid lists (this is why I have 21, the lolz are on me) and 25 squids a box is going to more or less kill their sales in 5th edition.
Just picked up my last 4 boxes of gaunts from Dark Sphere (cheers guys). No more 'nids for me after this. Too many pennies
It's too many pennies for a lot of GW's stuff now, which is the problem for me and the reason why I'm leaving GW side of the hobby.
This is two hobbies now I've had to drop due to price.
First MTG and now this, it's sad and just outrageous that some people are being priced out of such great hobbies.
Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right.
Hey, I dont get why everyone is so upitty about the constant price rises. Please accept it as the way GW work. Dont think of it as the price of the figures increasing, rather see it as the cost of expanding a masssively supported worldwide gaming system. (by that I mean you can pretty much go and play games in any city in the UK or America at a GW store)
There maybe only 3 or 4 you can play at tournament level (Flames of War, Warham and Warmachine?), but gaming isnt just about organised tourneys is it?
Remember, there are literally hundreds of games out there you can play and loads of miniature making companies. I got fed up with paying what I thought was high prices for models, so just made my own. I now have a company that sells them and a decent game for you to play, and download for free, so stop moaning and expand your horizons.
This is not to mention the fact that you can play warhammer with unofficial models. What about making your own? Stand ins for Necrons made from bolts, and what about scrunts, quar and the multitude of tanks, soldiers and aliens on the market?
SO to summmarise, Im saying enjoy the service that GW offers, which is unlike any other comany. This level of service costs, and is constantly rising in cost.
If this annoys you too much, then welcome to the ranks of the older, more mature gamer who loves finding great companies to support, making unique armies and playing fun games.
I'm a believer that if GW is gonna hose their loyal customers that the customers should resort to things like piracy. Buy a box of minis, make your own and sell some on ebay to recoup the cost. I'd rather just buy my minis at the local game store but when it becomes unaffordable i'll have no problem to minting my own or buying from someone else that does.
I love the paragraph Darksphere have on their website
"In addition, they have altered their terms and conditions for independents meaning that we will no longer be able to send their products outside of the EU. We will also not be able to get new foreign language rulebooks, codices, etc until 8 weeks after their launch. We have no indication of price rises being on the horizon for Wamachine, Malifaux, Dystopian Wars or Mantic, all of which we can still send anywhere in the world and are growing in popularity."
in a wierd way I am not bothered about the prise increases. I have taken stock of the situation and come to realise its too expensive for me. I will finish off my eldar army (two more purchases) and thats me done for the most part.
I have armies I can play with. Theres no way I will start another. It feels good I can spend my money on other things.
I might pick up the odd occasional thing in the future but only if I have nothing else to build or paint.
I've got a pretty much finished Tau army (with plenty left to paint) and I managed to get a MASSIVE amount of Sisters of Battle for £50...Included TWO exorcists, 4 Rhinos, at least 40 Sisters, two Penitent engines etc They do need a lot of work on them but it will keep me going for months.
I've started Flames of War now and with about £50 spent I've got enough for small-medium level games already!!!! Bonkers.
This price rise won't force me out of the various GW games (why should I stop playing games I enjoy?) but it's defintely forcing me to re-evaluate my purchasing habits. I might have to abandon my plans for a Dark Eldar and Tomb King armies, plus my Empire may never go beyond the 1000pts I currently have.
Oh well if I want any new armies of any sort I'll have to look at other game systems.
gr1m_dan wrote:I love the paragraph Darksphere have on their website
"In addition, they have altered their terms and conditions for independents meaning that we will no longer be able to send their products outside of the EU. We will also not be able to get new foreign language rulebooks, codices, etc until 8 weeks after their launch. We have no indication of price rises being on the horizon for Wamachine, Malifaux, Dystopian Wars or Mantic, all of which we can still send anywhere in the world and are growing in popularity."
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Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, for those who're (rightly) steamed by this.
Time to whip out the old pencil and paper scrap.
If we all sent letters to GW protesting the decisions (from worldwide, as well), they may actually be tempted to listen for a change.
I know lots of people are going to poo-poo this idea, but frankly, GW ignores the internet. If we each wrote & sent 1 letter a week, they'd have to address it.
I'll be doing it anyway.
Write to:
C/O CEO & Board of Directors
Games Workshop Limited
Willow Road
Lenton
Nottingham
NG7 2WS
United Kingdom
To Whom it Concerns,
I am a customer of your company for the last [x] years.
In that time, you have raised prices for various reasons.
Recently you have decided to change how independent stockists sell your product as well as inducting yet another price rise.
This price rise is due to the change to a cheaper manufacturing medium, and cannot be justified.
What is the justification for this unwarranted price rise?
You continually ignore people's pleas online to be more reasonable in your policies and communicate with the community you have built over 30 years.
You do not respond to the feedback of the community and seem content to price-gouge and ignore the self-same community that built your company up to be, in your own words, "the largest and the most successful tabletop fantasy and futuristic battle-games company in the world."
The mood through the community is rife with dissatisfaction at your policies, complete lack of communication and what appears to be disregard for your loyal customer base.
I would like to see if this letter is replied to, and if so, what justifications I will be given for the questions I have asked.
To Summarise:
1. What justification and reasons are there to the price rise being implemented on May 28th, 2011?
2. Why is there a price rise on products being moved to a cheaper production medium?
3. What justification is there for the policy change to EU and Overseas independent retailers?
4. Why are Games Workshop's loyal customers being ignored and treated badly?
5. Why is there a reported change to new product advertising to 1 week before release?
6. How does Games Workshop intend to address the very real concerns of its customer base?
I look forward to hearing from you, with answers to these concerns.
Yours,
[NAME]
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Nick Ellingworth wrote:This price rise won't force me out of the various GW games (why should I stop playing games I enjoy?) but it's defintely forcing me to re-evaluate my purchasing habits. I might have to abandon my plans for a Dark Eldar and Tomb King armies, plus my Empire may never go beyond the 1000pts I currently have.
Oh well if I want any new armies of any sort I'll have to look at other game systems.
That's the thing. Carry on playing the system, I had many a good game when I played and met some great people. However just try and control the wargamers desire to have everything
I'm sure they'll notice if everybody just carries on playing, but doesn't rush out and buy the latest release. Recycle.
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I shall continue with my support for GW. Bought a whole load of new tomb kings stuff today for around £200. I make no apology for this, and here's the reason why:
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I got my Zoanthropes for something like £10.50 a year ago from Maelstrom. They are going up to £15.50.
Then consider there isn't much point having fewer than three, and you need a Pod (which GWdon't MAKE!111) but if they did you would be looking at another £25 for that and suddenly a single unit in the Tyranid army is over £70.
I'm done with GW til the new Necrons are released, just put in my last order with you guys at Dark Sphere til those bad boys are released. These GW prices are ridiculous, as if they weren't already mind you, £20 for an army book is border line crazy and £41 for a Land Raider? I could buy a new video game for less than that much.
Antonius wrote:
Also, for those who're (rightly) steamed by this.
Time to whip out the old pencil and paper scrap.
If we all sent letters to GW protesting the decisions (from worldwide, as well), they may actually be tempted to listen for a change.
Yep, I sent mine today and I'm not buying anything until I get a response.
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BrookM wrote:From what I've heard from my FLGS store owner we (we being the Dutch) may be dodging a bullet.
Muh ha ha....
They are just getting started on you.... After they get you tied down, it's too late to scream.
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Oh great. I guess I can kiss my planned Grey Knight army good bye with these new price rises. DAMN YOU MEDIOCRE TEENAGE FUNDING! DAMN YOU GAMES WORKSHOP! DAMN YOU FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER! DAMN YOU ALL!
I think the point people miss when they say why will this stop me playing et etc is that many of the army books are due for a change and we all know that involves some form of rejigging. Same applies to codices one would presume.
2014 will be the year of zero GW purchases. Kneadite instead of GS, no paints or models. 2014 will be the year I finally make the move to military models and away from miniature games.
This just means to me I'll probably only buy GW models I can't get anywhere else (Damn direct order DX) and will buy Dark Sphere or other such sites
Oh and of course eBay lol. Then again I haven't bought any actual GW in over a year now if you discount a lone Warhammer Forge purchase, which isn't affected by the numerous price rises
Grimstonefire wrote:I am feeling quite confident that by this time next year I will be holding a new CD model in my hand (07/07/10). Someone can sig that if they want.
I got my Zoanthropes for something like £10.50 a year ago from Maelstrom. They are going up to £15.50.
Then consider there isn't much point having fewer than three, and you need a Pod (which GWdon't MAKE!111) but if they did you would be looking at another £25 for that and suddenly a single unit in the Tyranid army is over £70.
Hive Guard are going up to £15.50 a pop too :( And Tyranids need them, desperately. But be fair to GW: they cheered me up with the hilarious joke of £21.50 for a Pyrovore.
Is it just me, or is there no Sisters or Necron stuff getting a price increase?
I might actually be able to get the necron army after all... just maybe... Of course, from a discounter, but at least I won't be paying close to what it originally cost even with discounts.
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