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Of all the "Dex's" i've read up on...

Orkz - Vanilla Marines - Dark Eldar

All are nicely balanced and able to stay competitively at the front of the pack no problem!

Actually orks are about mid-pack, Dark eldar and marines near the front, if you go by tournament scores.

I don't, much

I play my orks to indulge my sense of slapstick fun and my Necrons to indulge my masochism/sadism complex...

Jimsolo wrote:I honestly think the Space Marines are the most balanced. I think that they allow the greatest chance for success with a 'takes-all-comers' list. I have to agree that Orks are a strong contender as well.

I agree with this dude. Guilleman's codex is really balanced and still hanging in there after a few years.

Luke_Prowler wrote:

Shadelkan wrote:I'm probably asking to get shot, but what is it about IG that makes it unbalanced?

Guard can get a lot of powerful stuff for ridiculously low prices. The best examples would be the Vendetta, the Chimera, and the Manticore

They also don't have any real exploitable weaknesses. Their low Ld is solved by Commissars, their low toughness and saves by hiding in vehicles or in blobs, and advisers can screw over a deepstriking/outflanking army.

I dunno about low prices, the only 'cheap' units are your guard platoons by themselves. As for your examples you only see Vendettas/Valkeries if your opponent is IRL rich enough to buy them. Chimeras and vechiles based on the chassis have paper thin armor, and the Manticore is limited in what it can do. Plus in my experience games are played on 4'x4' or 4'x8' tables and so there is rarely more then 48" between you and the other guy, deploy and that's 36" or so. So the guard and Tau for that matter's long range is mitagated. About the only thing I don't like is Penal Legions not having weapon options, and I think the Deathstrike is relatively useless, but everything else is fair.

SM, Orks.


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But this answer fluctuates a bit, depending on what other codices are around and which edition.

Luke_Prowler wrote:

Gavo wrote:Dark Eldar and Orks seem to be the most competitive.

That's not quite what we're talking about. All the 5th edition codex (with the possible exception of Tyranids) and some of the 4th editions codex are competitive, but a balanced codex requires being competitive but not A: incredibly biased towards certain choices and B: have under-priced units.

I know that, I had a massive brain fart back then, my bad. Anyway, I meant they're the most balanced.

IG kick some serious ass.

They do that ;0)

Balanced, so-so. I've seen worse

Guard can pose a great offense with the sheer destructive power of basilisks, LRBT, and manticores, but have a significant hole in defense; if a stron army like BA can deep strike into your lines, you are screwed. Presenting a unified front(and thus defense for the heavy support) is key to armies like guard; when infiltrated/deep struck upon, you loose a significant advantage.

-cgmckenzie

PS-drunk beyond all reason. Apologies for above if they are warranted.