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oh,you know. in a basement...cooking ponies into cupcakes....
kronk wrote:
lord commissar klimino wrote:
ill admit pepsi is better than dr.pepper
Saying that too loudly in Texas will get you shot...
funny,i haven't yet. PEPSI IS BETTER THAN DR.PEPPER BUT COCA-COLA KICKS BOTH OF THEIR *SSES!
Deathshead420 wrote:As your leader, I encourage you, from time to time and always in a respectful manner, to question my logic. If you're unconvinced a particular plan of action I've decided is the wisest, tell me so! But allow me to convince you. And I promise you, right here and now, no subject will ever be taboo … except, of course, the subject that was just under discussion. The price you pay for bringing up either my Chinese or American heritage as a negative is – I collect your f g head. [Holds up Tanaka's head] Just like this f r here. Now, if any of you sons of bitches got anything else to say, now's the f g time! [Pause] I didn't think so.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Kilkrazy wrote:It doesn't remind me of Blackface vaudeville, however it does remind me of the Coke advert with the polar bears.
Yeah, I don't see the "Blackface" connection either...
Just comes across as Pepsi's (Failed) attempt to show how much more "Hip, with it and active" their customers are than the "plain" polar bears who lay around drinking Coke.
This. I prefer Pepsi though.
However, Dr. Pepper and IBC Root Beer reign supreme over all other beverages. Disagreeing with this statement....
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I'm offended. Not one of the bears on that boat is wearing a life-preserver.
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio
I don't know about Coke having any cocaine in it, but I know there's truckloads of the stuff being done in the Pepsi marketing team.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
I wonder, does it get offensive for black people when they can't appear in adverts, even as voice talent, without someone who is inevitably not black claiming it is "offensive to black people." Has anyone asked any actual black people if they are offended by Polar Bears?
(I'm reminded of an outcry in recent times that Hot-Cross buns were to be banned from schools in order to avoid offending Muslims. Nobody had actually run it by any Muslims, and when they did, the Muslims said they really couldn't have cared less about bloody buns. Sometimes it is wise to consult the minority you are "defending" to see if they actually want defending.)
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio
ArbeitsSchu wrote:I wonder, does it get offensive for black people when they can't appear in adverts, even as voice talent, without someone who is inevitably not black claiming it is "offensive to black people." Has anyone asked any actual black people if they are offended by Polar Bears?
I think the idea is that when they're in ads, they don't have to appear as racial stereotypes. Just have black people acting as, you know, people.
Not that I think there was any kind of blackface going on in the polar bear ad. I mean, they were tanning for one thing, which is something white people do... The whole ad is just weird and crappy, not racist.
(I'm reminded of an outcry in recent times that Hot-Cross buns were to be banned from schools in order to avoid offending Muslims. Nobody had actually run it by any Muslims, and when they did, the Muslims said they really couldn't have cared less about bloody buns. Sometimes it is wise to consult the minority you are "defending" to see if they actually want defending.)
Definitely. It seems to me 90% of the time the ridiculous exceptions asked for minority populations are asked for on their behalf, and not by the community themselves.
There seems to be this idea that tolerance involves taking away cultural activities, to avoid offending groups. Seems to me a healthy, tolerant society should be able to include all manner of cultural activities.
Well, except hot cross buns, because they taste like gak.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
ArbeitsSchu wrote:I wonder, does it get offensive for black people when they can't appear in adverts, even as voice talent, without someone who is inevitably not black claiming it is "offensive to black people." Has anyone asked any actual black people if they are offended by Polar Bears?
I think the idea is that when they're in ads, they don't have to appear as racial stereotypes. Just have black people acting as, you know, people.
Not that I think there was any kind of blackface going on in the polar bear ad. I mean, they were tanning for one thing, which is something white people do... The whole ad is just weird and crappy, not racist.
(I'm reminded of an outcry in recent times that Hot-Cross buns were to be banned from schools in order to avoid offending Muslims. Nobody had actually run it by any Muslims, and when they did, the Muslims said they really couldn't have cared less about bloody buns. Sometimes it is wise to consult the minority you are "defending" to see if they actually want defending.)
Definitely. It seems to me 90% of the time the ridiculous exceptions asked for minority populations are asked for on their behalf, and not by the community themselves.
There seems to be this idea that tolerance involves taking away cultural activities, to avoid offending groups. Seems to me a healthy, tolerant society should be able to include all manner of cultural activities.
Well, except hot cross buns, because they taste like gak.
I'm reminded of an occasion when, at a friends house ( who happens to be very white and very "liberal") a commercial for a fried chicken chain came on the TV, in it it depicted a group of Black people eating chicken and listening to hip hop,
He immediately began to soap box about how racist the commercial was....to which my ( African American) Missus replied..." What's racist about it?...I eat fried chicken...I listen to hip hop..hell sometimes I even do both at the same time."
It seems to me that in many cases people look for reasons to be offended.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Definitely. It seems to me 90% of the time the ridiculous exceptions asked for minority populations are asked for on their behalf, and not by the community themselves.
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I suspect 90% of the special exceptions made for minority populations are made up by the Daily Mail to further their hate/fear based populist agenda. They do the same with EU regulations and cancer alerts.
FITZZ wrote: I'm reminded of an occasion when, at a friends house ( who happens to be very white and very "liberal") a commercial for a fried chicken chain came on the TV, in it it depicted a group of Black people eating chicken and listening to hip hop,
He immediately began to soap box about how racist the commercial was....to which my ( African American) Missus replied..." What's racist about it?...I eat fried chicken...I listen to hip hop..hell sometimes I even do both at the same time."
It seems to me that in many cases people look for reasons to be offended.
Stuff like that is kind of where it gets weird though, because there isn't anything wrong with an individual ad showing something that coincides with a racist stereotype, the problem is when every ad does. Like in horror movies, there's nothing wrong with the black guy being a casualty, but there's something a whole lot wrong with every film constantly having the black guy die.
I don't know if ads in the US constantly show people eating fried chicken and listening to hip hop, and I'd be more than willing the believe the guy was just grandstanding to show his liberal bona fides, but I can see where there might be an issue.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Kilkrazy wrote:I suspect 90% of the special exceptions made for minority populations are made up by the Daily Mail to further their hate/fear based populist agenda. They do the same with EU regulations and cancer alerts.
Oh sure, there's also that. There's a whole lot of that. Like the yearly panic over the war on Christmas, despite office christmas parties becoming more common, and no instance ever of anyone actually being stopped from doing anything christmas related on behalf of tolerance.
Yet every year the Daily Mail trots out there war on christmas campaign...
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
My dream is that the next big phone-hack is done by the Mail, and it kills it stone dead. Immediately the world would be better.
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all" Mario Savio
Rogueyopants wrote:...ummm.....where was the offensive part?
I was offended when they steroetyped "white" bears to be uncool...
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
We live in a PC mad world where anything can be offensive, there's always some nut job who can twist something completely innocent and turn it into something nasty.
The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
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Not entirely sure when it ceased.
Catachan LIX "Lords Of Destruction" 
Gorgutz Waaagh 2000pts 20-9-9, 1750pts 23-7-13
