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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I agree, a remake could be really cool. I like the running man because its just a cheesy cool movie. But adding in some more serious elements could make a remake awesome
Azza007 wrote:I agree with the Sharpe movies being redone there are so many things that annoyed me about the series. I would also like to see the Hornblower series redone to the standards of today. Something more akin to the level of Master and Commander.
I don't think I'll ever forgive the general movie going public for ignoring Master and Commander. Hollywood gave us a genuine adventure yarn, with fantastic production values, it took the kinds of risks people constantly complain Hollywood avoids... and then... no-one went and saw it.
I loved it when I saw it, and when I realized that it was based on a series of books I looked forward to the sequels... and then found out that nobody saw it.
Armageddon: there's a decent in movie in there somewhere, it's just buried under too much garbage. I'm not even sure you'd need to remake it, just re-edit it down to about 90 minutes.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Exo Squad - Great mid-90's cartoon that featured a WWII in space storyline and humans actually died (was a first for my GI JOE saturated brain). I'd love to see the animation updated or the show turned into a more serious "anime" series with more sophisticated writing and themes.
Battletech- Mediocre mid-90's cartoon based on the Battletech tabletop game. Remember the bad CGI fight scenes? How cool would they be now? The writing would need some updates (and following the Battletech canon would be a nice change from the original series) but I would love to see something done with the Battletech license.
Robotjox - Horrible `Mech B-movie from 1990 that would likely look awesome today with CGI effects. There really needs to be more big screen `Mech movies. It has been years since I have seen it but I vaguely recall the plot involved wars in the future being fought by single gladiator-esque `Mechs. Maybe they just were gladiators, it doesn't matter. The movie sucked but it definitely scratched my giant-robot itch as a kid.
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FITZZ wrote: To be fair Sebs, I believe many of us who constantly complain about the swill Hollywood churns out did go see Master and Commander...
It's just that it didn't draw the " general movie going public"...as you noted.
True. But at what point should we stop complaining about people who are looking to make money by making films that people go and see, and start complaining about 'the general movie going public' that keeps ignoring the risky projects but lines up to watch each iteration of Transformers?
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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sebster wrote:True. But at what point should we stop complaining about people who are looking to make money by making films that people go and see, and start complaining about 'the general movie going public' that keeps ignoring the risky projects but lines up to watch each iteration of Transformers?
There's always going to be mass appeal entertainment.
Hell, Shakespeare was mass appeal back in his day. There's a lot of fart jokes in those plays.
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FITZZ wrote: To be fair Sebs, I believe many of us who constantly complain about the swill Hollywood churns out did go see Master and Commander...
It's just that it didn't draw the " general movie going public"...as you noted.
True. But at what point should we stop complaining about people who are looking to make money by making films that people go and see, and start complaining about 'the general movie going public' that keeps ignoring the risky projects but lines up to watch each iteration of Transformers?
Your right man, it's all about supply and demand and unfortunately demand seems to be high for "BOOMBANGPOWCGIPLOTWHATPLOT!!??" type films and of course those who make films based on "profit potential" alone are all to happy to supply them.
I suppose really...it's the " General movie going public's" fault for continuing to fill the coffers of the swill peddlers ...but at times I believe they just don't know any better.
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Monster Rain wrote:
Hell, Shakespeare was mass appeal back in his day. There's a lot of fart jokes in those plays.
The difference was in the balance. Shakespeare, usually, managed to be intelligent with his use of fart (sex, poop, etc.) jokes.
The best media manages to appeal to all, or at least multiple, audiences.
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GalacticDefender wrote:A true to the book starship troopers movie would be awesome too.
Oh please yes. We have the technology. We can rebuild the film. Better. Faster. Less stupid.
A faithful remake of Starship Troopers would be awful, the same as any Heinlein book. The pacing is all wrong for film.
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Platuan4th wrote:
Blame Fast and the Furious and xXx for Chronicles of Riddick.
I actually thought XXX was a pretty good Americanized version of James Bond.
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LordofHats wrote:Amen. They let Vin go too crazy with his D&D obsession. Riddick was much cooler when he was more ambiguous on the 'good guy' 'bad guy' scale.
Eh, he has only been, at best, neutral. There was no secret in Pitch that he was the protagonist, and closer to good (because "good" generally means "not with overt, contradictory self-interest") than Johns (the only other viable driving character). The misstep, in my mind, was the odd change from relatively hard sci-fi to weird quasi-magical crap. It was too jarring.
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Dungeons and Dragons (I'd make one based on the cartoon, darker with the now adult adventurers rediscovering the old abandoned funfair and that certain ride and returning to take on Venger).
I'm not sure if it's been said, but Seven Samurai was already remade... as a Western...
Dungeons & Dragons desperately needs remade... and maybe making a reference to the cheesy 80's cartoon would be fine (the kids in a crowd scene or something) but it could be made vastly better. There was so much good material that could have been used, but...
Hell, I'd have gone with Planescape. Get Del Toro on this, he'd go apeshit. The Modrons will march again...
... you know, it might seem really old school, but a steampunk remake of Conan Doyle's The Lost World might be good.
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Monster Rain wrote:There's always going to be mass appeal entertainment.
Hell, Shakespeare was mass appeal back in his day. There's a lot of fart jokes in those plays.
Sure, and there's nothing saying entertainment has to be high brow, sophisticated or anything like that. I also think we get plenty of good quality, more mature stuff every year, made on a much small budget.
It's the middle ground, the big budget movie that isn't aggressively stupid and hopelessly derivative that seems to miss out time after time.
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FITZZ wrote:Your right man, it's all about supply and demand and unfortunately demand seems to be high for "BOOMBANGPOWCGIPLOTWHATPLOT!!??" type films and of course those who make films based on "profit potential" alone are all to happy to supply them. I suppose really...it's the " General movie going public's" fault for continuing to fill the coffers of the swill peddlers ...but at times I believe they just don't know any better.
Pretty much, yeah. I don't think anything can be done about it either...
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:DUNE. Truer to the book.
I'm not sure that keeping to the book is that good an idea. I mean, we already had the miniseries and that was insufferably dull because of the problems inherent in translating the book, so never mind trying to keep it faithful when you move to a three hour movie.
I think the original film is probably pretty close to how you could do it, though you'd probably want to mention 'kwisatz haderach' at some point before the triumphant last few second. Hey, with the tech these days they could even do justice to the combat scenes.
Dungeons and Dragons (I'd make one based on the cartoon, darker with the now adult adventurers rediscovering the old abandoned funfair and that certain ride and returning to take on Venger).
I'd settle for a bunch of adventurers going into a dungeon, with the climax involving a fight against a dragon. The party could be the standard four, warrior, thief, cleric and wizard. It's already got Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces stamped all over it, so Hollywood would love it.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Azza007 wrote:I agree with the Sharpe movies being redone there are so many things that annoyed me about the series. I would also like to see the Hornblower series redone to the standards of today. Something more akin to the level of Master and Commander.
I don't think I'll ever forgive the general movie going public for ignoring Master and Commander. Hollywood gave us a genuine adventure yarn, with fantastic production values, it took the kinds of risks people constantly complain Hollywood avoids... and then... no-one went and saw it.
Loved that film. I've got it on dvd and have watched it several times. I share the 'no-sequel' disappointment too, especially when one considers that everything was in place to make them, should they have decided to.
Regarding the Sharpe remake idea.... nah, not for me. Sharpe will always be Sean Bean in my eyes. How about some of Cornwell's other books, though? Azincourt would make a very good (if extremely gory) film.
Azza007 wrote:I agree with the Sharpe movies being redone there are so many things that annoyed me about the series. I would also like to see the Hornblower series redone to the standards of today. Something more akin to the level of Master and Commander.
I don't think I'll ever forgive the general movie going public for ignoring Master and Commander. Hollywood gave us a genuine adventure yarn, with fantastic production values, it took the kinds of risks people constantly complain Hollywood avoids... and then... no-one went and saw it.
Loved that film. I've got it on dvd and have watched it several times. I share the 'no-sequel' disappointment too, especially when one considers that everything was in place to make them, should they have decided to.
Regarding the Sharpe remake idea.... nah, not for me. Sharpe will always be Sean Bean in my eyes. How about some of Cornwell's other books, though? Azincourt would make a very good (if extremely gory) film.
I agree about his Thomas of Hookton and Azincourt books being done, they are great reads. I also share the sentiments following sequels to M&C. As for Sean Bean in Sharpe, he was good at first but when they started messing around chronologically it didn't feel right. Not sure who could have replaced him though in the role.
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No classic should be remade. its just a sin and lazy. Generally the remakes are far far crappier than the originals.
Remake Tora Tora Tora? Remake 2001? Sinner! Blasphemer!!!
Lets remind ourselves of some of the joyous remakes.
*Pearl Harbor (dry heaves)
*Conan (wait, where's the Nietsche and cool drum sound track wussy!)
*Halloween (no, just no)
*Nightmare on Elm Street (ditto on the no, just no)
*Psycho (you think you're better than Hitchcock? Seriously?)
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:DUNE. Truer to the book.
I actually really enjoyed the Sci Fi miniseries. Lower budget, but I think it captured the essence of the novel's intent.
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rockerbikie wrote:I heard Blade Runner might be redone.
And someone needs to die for that offense.
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Frazzled wrote:No classic should be remade. its just a sin and lazy. Generally the remakes are far far crappier than the originals.
Remake Tora Tora Tora? Remake 2001? Sinner! Blasphemer!!!
Lets remind ourselves of some of the joyous remakes.
*Pearl Harbor (dry heaves)
*Conan (wait, where's the Nietsche and cool drum sound track wussy!)
*Halloween (no, just no)
*Nightmare on Elm Street (ditto on the no, just no)
*Psycho (you think you're better than Hitchcock? Seriously?)
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:DUNE. Truer to the book.
I actually really enjoyed the Sci Fi miniseries. Lower budget, but I think it captured the essence of the novel's intent.
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rockerbikie wrote:I heard Blade Runner might be redone.
And someone needs to die for that offense.
Agreed, classics movies shouldn't be remade go for movies that were promising but needed a few fix-ups here and there.
Alot of you guys are kinda idiotic, Running man as a concept has been remade countless of times. Here is an example
Spoiler:
In alot of ways this^ movie was alot better than running man* with many more interesting ideas. Plus if anything else a better finger on the pulse of the culture it satirised.
Must try harder guys, must try harder.........
My picks:
Miracle mile Threads Highlander (in pre-production, apparently) L'armée des ombres Ultramarine
*Unlike predator and Commando running man simply is not a very good film.
Great pick with DUNE btw!
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