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Necrontyr40k wrote:

WanderingFox wrote:I'd be inclined to agree with necrontyr40k's first list... except for the pretorians... I've had nothing but bad luck with them so far... I'd replace them with sword/board lychguard by dropping 4 of the particle casters to make up the missing 18 pts.

This is of course just my personal preference, but I find lychguard a little more durable. That said however, the pretorians with voidblades probably makes for a better TAC list since rending and entropic makes for excellent tank hunters. I've just had horrible luck GETTING them to that point in practice games...

Remember the tournament rule restrictions we are dealing with here (see OP) - IG cannot take Leman Russ tanks under them. So, no AP3 large pie plates, unless he pays for colossi or basilisks, which have large minimal ranges and scatter a lot. This means 3+ saves are far more untouchable than normal. In the end, if you roll a 1-2, it does not matter if the save you failed was armor or invulnerable. The argument only breaks if there is a ton of plasma guns AND the necrons hang out in open sight (which jump packs should never do)

Also, speed here is very important, so jump packs is the way to go. Otherwise, you will spend extra turns slogging it to the gun line, which is what IG wants. Also, with jump packs, you can assault from outside the 12 inch range of rapid fire double-tap and also from behind solid cover.

Oh for sure, I was just venting on how absolutely abysmal they've been to me in all of my warmup games when learning the codex before I started playing it for real :3

Hey - just got info from local store where this league is housed - QS can be normally used in tournament games
Guess it changes a lot of things. Can't decide which vehicle to put into roster now

Here's what I would do:

1x Overlord
+ Warscythe
1x Catacomb Command Barge
+ Gauss Cannon

1x Harbinger of Destruction
+ Solar Pulse
5x Immortals
+ Tesla Carbines

1x Harbinger of Destruction
5x Immortals
+ Tesla Carbines

1x Harbinger of Despair
+ Veil of Darkness
5x Deathmarks

Total points = 595

Real easy gameplan: whatever is your must-kill target, that's what you send the Deathmarks after. With the combination of Hunters from Hyperspace and the Abyssal Staff, any unit you designate will be wiped out immediately. The troops will add a little anti-tank via the Harbingers, and the Overlord in the CCB will be your primary tank hunter, with the Gauss Cannon adding some anti-MEQ shots. All of your shooting except for the teleporting squad is Assault 1 so you should be able to cover ground easily even without taking more transports. And the Tesla choice will eat through MEQ very nicely. And with a single Solar Pulse, you can protect yourself during your opponent's first turn until you can get your army into the 24" murder bubble.

What I tried out today against my DE friend was:

600pt Necrons

HQ (160pts)

Necron Overlord (100pts)
- Warscythe

Cryptec (60pts)
- Harbinger of Despair
- Veil of Darkness

Troops (170pts)

10x Immortal (170pts)
- Tesla Carbines

Fast Attack (180pts)

3x Destroyer (120pts)
1x Heavy Destroyer (60pts)


Heavy Support (90pts)

Annihilation Barge (90pts)
- Gauss Cannon

I'm quite pleased with this roster and after some testing I might give it a go in league. Turned out that Overlord+Warscythe that can split off from unit after VoD deepstrike is a wonderful vehicle-opener

Even better vehicle popper is him on a barge...

3 war scythe attacks on 4+s at an effective 20ish inch range? Yes please. (You can sweep with a flat out move)

Alternatively, 7 attacks at a 10ish inch range (sweep + open topped so assault vehicle = 12in sweep + charge).

Here's my idea, DS the hell out of them. Drop a monolith on their face or use the flayed ones to tear the flesh off their limbs. Wraiths move fast as hell. Just get to him ASAP

The game changes and/or breaks at 600 points under house rules.

The big question cron players should be asking is how to deal with pbs in 1.5 to 2k objective based games with full ig synergy. I see it being a real problem for many necron builds because no scoring units are fearless, and with ld10 cron players are often unprepared when their units start failing morale from shooting.

Hope it's not too much of thread necromancy, but...

I tied IG yesterday! The new approach that we came up with here worked. I had some bad luck, so did he, but overall we had a fun game full of classy kills.
He finally took down my Barge, I massacrated his Karskin (who did heroic all-or-nothing DS and shoot my whole Destroyer team dead) and Veterans.
Tie was marvelous 10:10 as he only had 40vp advantege

I'm happy with this outcome. BTW: Destroyers are crappy agains such blob IG, way too easy to kill and won't do much damage :(
On the other hands most armies in league are SM - so AP3 feels a must. Hope Wraith Models come out soon.

Thanks for all the advices / suggestions guys!

Glad to see that it worked for you.

I still think you should give the Deathmarks a shot, though.