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Dysartes wrote:When you say "I've never liked the attitude of most of the fanbase", Sid, is that based off what you've read people write online, or what you've heard people say in person? There are some people who take Page 5 as an excuse to be obnoxious twits, but is that any different to their equivalent TFGs in the 40k fanbase?

I had a big post typed up, trying to explain myself, but honestly I don't think anyone wants to read that gak so I'm not going to say much. Basically I only really had one sort-of negative experience in person when a guy was trying to talk me out of 40k and into Warmachine instead (an ex-GW fan I imagine, so you can probably guess what that was like...and I say sort-of negative since at the time I didn't really give a gak about his opinion and started up 40k anyway), and most of my assertions are based purely on the vitriol I saw posted on PP's forum some years back.

I mean I didn't think it was possible to have such deep-seeded hatred for plastic models simply because one company you don't like makes them, but it was there. Like I've said before though, PP is to blame for a lot of the ridiculous behavior of their own fanbase...they wrote Page 5, they advertise the game in a 90's EXTREME kind of way, they pushed that metal was not only superior but what a MAN'S models are made out of, etc.

Anyway, it's probably best in situations like this to ignore what the online community says and do whatever the feth you want, but still, I don't like picking an army and then watching people's faces twist in disgust or having them ask "You picked them?", feeling like I have to "explain myself" in a way. How the hell could you pick Retribution jacks over MANLY STEAM AND RIVETS HURR? How the hell could you pick Tau over SPESS MAHREENZ FOR DA EMPRAH DURR? At least with Retribution people can't accuse you of being a anime fan or a commie I guess.

lol, so the language censor actually changes that word to "anime fan" now...I'm not even sure that's what that means.

Ret is viewed as one of the weaker factions (being newest a d having less options), and their Jacks are the most disliked from a visual perspective, but I've never seen anyone rag on a Ret player for playing Ret. And yes, online communities are full of Gak holes, no surprise. Look at some of the stuff that gets posted here even.

I have yet to see anyone call Ret a weak faction...

Once the Vyre warjacks are out, Ret has a really incredible and versatile line-up of competitive lists available to it.

Also, they stopped having the "newest faction" excuse at the end of last year/start of this year, when FoH: Minions was released (technically when the NQ with the Minion Pacts in it came out, but you get my point).

sourclams wrote:I have yet to see anyone call Ret a weak faction...

Once the Vyre warjacks are out, Ret has a really incredible and versatile line-up of competitive lists available to it.

Yes, the lates expansion has more than doubled Retribution's warjack options as well as reducing two of their problems, namely Stealth and low MAT.

I love the look and design of Ret infantry. I hate their Jacks. Nothing here is going to change that.

Not sure which upper dude passed off on the hermit crab motif, but not the choice I would have made.