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Brother Coa wrote:

Lynata wrote:Or any other science, for that matter. Marines only being males based on some hormone is somewhat ridiculous, too. Not to mention that everybody keeps conquering entire planets with a couple thousand troops.

Blood Ravens did that with 4 squads of Marines, commander and Dred. Did I mention d that they put most of them in a single drop-pod?
The logic for females is not just hormone, but also hromozones who are different with males and females. The science is that males can survive that, but they must suffer a great pain. Women are not so, tough according to GW writers.
And the logic for conquered world is: take capital and the whole planet is yours. It is what I saw in most books anyway. Except Vraks, where even millions of Krieg solders didn't manage to get rid of all the Heretics.

4 squads at a time. At least 2 waited back on the battle barge. Not to mention the countless reinforcements and other squads that aren't controlled by the player. Also you can see by the end, that the battle has practically destroyed the chapter.

who was it that crashed thier last stike crusier into a necron planet killer thing

The Astral Knights. They destroyed the Necron World Engine by going Kamikaze, which, in all honesty, is plain stupidity.

Yes, but the game engine also works off of an accumulated damage model.

In real life, if you shoot a rifle at the armored side of an LAV (which is the approximate hull strength we've been led to believe the Astartes Power Armor has), it will do zero damage to the vehicle. No matter how many times you do it. Hence why in a lot of the fluff, small arms fire just ricochets off of, or is deflected by, the plating of Space Marines. It isn't so much about eventually wearing down the armor, as overcoming it completely. That kind of physics engine is still pretty complicated to program into a video game, and also detrimental to its fun factor. But Space Marine is also an arcade shooter, not a simulation. Sorta like the tabletop game isn't a simulation.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:In real life, if you shoot a rifle at the armored side of an LAV (which is the approximate hull strength we've been led to believe the Astartes Power Armor has), it will do zero damage to the vehicle. No matter how many times you do it.

Hmm, technically, there should be some effect, if only at a level where you could recognize it. But shoot at it enough and the damage will accumulate. Given how many bullets it would take, it's a rather ridiculous idea, though, which is why no sane person would bother.
That said, 40k small arms are also way stronger than modern day assault rifles, which is why they can indeed have a much stronger effect on Astartes/Sororitas power armour. Coincidentally, notice how the higher end of the protection percentage range equals the chance of you getting the dice roll you need for a Guardsman to neutralize a miniature with a 5+ armour in the TT? The TT came first, so we shouldn't be too surprised if the fluff was modeled after it, at least within limits.

By the way, where does the "armour as strong as a modern day tank" come from, exactly? Given the real life comparison, it doesn't sound like it would be from a book, so I'm guessing it's just some individual guy's offhand comment at how awesome their Marines are. I'd be careful taking this at face-value, given what kind of ridiculous stuff came from that direction before; I'm sure some people still recall the exaggerated statements that accompanied the launch of the Space Marine computer game ("So .. what's the ratio, how many Orks is one Space Marine good for?" - "Phew ... probably ... uh, tens of thousands!" ).

Veteran Sergeant wrote:But Space Marine is also an arcade shooter, not a simulation. Sorta like the tabletop game isn't a simulation.

True, true.