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Dislike: Rail guns, thankfully they are only in HS
Mephistion, at least he can't have a squad protecting him.

Hate: Long Fangs,
Thunderwolves

ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Hate: Eldar holofields.

I do hear that a lot

Hate: Whiney haters (fat people) who take things far too seriously.

Dislike: Flame baiting threads (fat people) that I'm forced (for reasons beyond me) to add my two-cents to... *pssst* fat people...

Oh yeah and Draigo (his fluff is fat) and anything written thus far by Gav Thorpe ( I think he's fat)

I don't really hate fat people though (they're tasty!), but this is a dangerous thread and I'm WALKIN' THE EDGE! *sigh* *Wheez*

Maybe I'm fat... does my butt look big on this forum?


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I do not give a damn what any of the novels, codex, or rulebooks have to say at all in the slightest. Space Marines are smart enough to learn to build things. The entire dark age of technology or whatever is just stupid as hell to me. Everything that's not space marines is pretty cool too me, but marines are functionally stupid. Ignorant people in power armor FTL.

Some of the individual events and chapter stories are cool to read, but the overall premise is just riddled with plot holes so big that you could fly the Highwind through them.

Gandair wrote:I do not give a damn what any of the novels, codex, or rulebooks have to say at all in the slightest. Space Marines are smart enough to learn to build things. The entire dark age of technology or whatever is just stupid as hell to me. Everything that's not space marines is pretty cool too me, but marines are functionally stupid. Ignorant people in power armor FTL.

Some of the individual events and chapter stories are cool to read, but the overall premise is just riddled with plot holes so big that you could fly the Highwind through them.

Actually what the dark age of technology means is that they don't build NEW things. They modify things all the time.

Look at how many variants of land raider there are, and how many things evolved from the simple rhino.

Some of them were STC'S because they required some very specific things. (The six lascannon needed a new engine type just to accommodate the power usage)

Though it's frowned upon by the Adeptas Mechanicus, even the IG does their own repair work from time to time, and it's even listed that hellhound drivers tinker with their rides all the time to produce a much more powerful flame. Just don't let the Tech priests know what your doing.

Dislike - Black Templars, Marines Malevolent, Hrud
Hate - Tau, Eldar, Overly (In the extreme) Puritan/Radical Inquisitors, Eldrad, The lack of explanation about how purity seals survive trough countless battles O_O HOW? What kind of paper is that thing made of?

Bronies.

Kaldor wrote:Bronies.

What are bronies?

Tadashi wrote:

Kaldor wrote:Bronies.

What are bronies?

The Adult fan base of My Little Pony.

(Shivers)

Kaldor wrote:Bronies.

There's Bronies in the 40k universe!? My god, this is news to me. I mean aside from the horse headed inquisitor I never would've guessed this.

Kaldor wrote:Bronies.

I have to agree with this...

Kaldor wrote:Bronies.

QFT

Intolerance, and judgment.

Hatred itself!!

Any army which reads like a mad-lib where you use essentially a single word as a modifier for everything and call it a day.

The largest offenders would be Space Wolves and Blood Angles. Everything is Wolf- or Blood-.

pk1 wrote:Any army which reads like a mad-lib where you use essentially a single word as a modifier for everything and call it a day.

The largest offenders would be Space Wolves and Blood Angles. Everything is Wolf- or Blood-.

Frim 1d4chan, best thing on the topic.

rockerbikie wrote:Dislike:

Hate:
Thousand Sons

A Space Wolf Player hating Thousand Sons? oh the irony.
Dislike
Eldar
Hate
Dark Eldar
Crimson Fists

I'm surprised by the hatred of Space Wolves in general. I thought that the hate would mainly come for Canis Wolfborn, Thunderwolves, etc etc.

Hate: Uriel Ventris and



Dislike: Marneus Calgar, playing against Draigowings armies.

Did someone really say Uriel Ventris?
Why Not Cato Scarius?
He has douche written all over him.


Who do I hate? This guy http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Lucius_the_Eternal
Why you ask? Because. He is a douche. He's Cato Scarius but in purple form. Anyone notice that? They are basically the same guy. Just different colors. One is kinda of a daemon, one is a space marine jerk. They both killed their brothers. Both of them are sword masters, both of them have almost died because of their stupid mistakes. Both of them like to push their other misforunate brothers down. Both have extremely flashy armor. Both consider themselves to be incredibely powerful. Hence why I believe Lucius and Cato are the same person.

Dislike: Space Wolf Haters. Seriously. I Love my wolves. Stop the hatin.

Vandire. What a donkey-cave. So glad he died.

Also the Wolves..
The whole package, codex, fluff and model artwork...

This thread seems more like a Space Wolf hate thread than anything else. Did all of you hate the Space Wolves way back in 2nd edition or is it just because of the recent drivel about them that is produced by Black Library and the current codex?

Personally, I hate every other chapter of space marines except the Space Wolves because the space wolves are the only chapter that has the courage to stand up to the big bully's of the Imperium....the Inquisition and the Eclessiarchy. I just dislike the space wolves.

I used to play Space Wolves in 2nd edition, it was one of the first armies I played. Since then I've gone over to xenos. I play Eldar.

So now I hate the Imperium and all that it stands for. The entire imperium is despicable. The emperor was an evil warlord and deserves to die, along with his evil empire. If mankind stooped to that low of a moral code they don't deserve to exist.

Because of him Chaos now has super human power armored warriors running around instead of just daemons (which are bad enough) and he nearly destroyed the galaxy because of his failed primarch project. It obviously didn't work, half of them turned on him.

At least the Eldar repented of their evil and are now spending their lives trying to stop it. The Imperium just keeps going on the path of Evil not giving a crap about who they hurt.

TermiesInARaider wrote:
You're again, disregarding the concentration of force. What ten Marines can accomplish in, say, a fast raid behind enemy lines, the equivalent amount of Kasrkin, or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, would never be able to accomplish, because the amount of forces they would have to bring to bear would make the fast movement and stealth required in such a mission impossible. That is why the Space Marines are referred to as the Scalpel of the Emperor. They bring tremendous fighting power to bear, in settings that could never be accessed by larger forces. 50 Kasrkin cannot handle the missions that 5 Space Marines can handle, because 50 Kasrkin would be detected by the enemy, surrounded, and slaughtered long before they ever reached the objective.

As for the Authors... Well, that's the plot-armor phenomena. I'm just saying that the 1:10 ratio is very misunderstood, and that particular bit of fluff does fit much of what they're described as capable of.

I beg to differ. Marines don't do stealth. Scouts do. and Scouts are equipped with lesser weaponary. Kasrkins lives kinda depends on their stealth. Marines/scouts can do a Monty Python-esque " 'tis but a scratch"

The Crusader wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:
You're again, disregarding the concentration of force. What ten Marines can accomplish in, say, a fast raid behind enemy lines, the equivalent amount of Kasrkin, or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, would never be able to accomplish, because the amount of forces they would have to bring to bear would make the fast movement and stealth required in such a mission impossible. That is why the Space Marines are referred to as the Scalpel of the Emperor. They bring tremendous fighting power to bear, in settings that could never be accessed by larger forces. 50 Kasrkin cannot handle the missions that 5 Space Marines can handle, because 50 Kasrkin would be detected by the enemy, surrounded, and slaughtered long before they ever reached the objective.

As for the Authors... Well, that's the plot-armor phenomena. I'm just saying that the 1:10 ratio is very misunderstood, and that particular bit of fluff does fit much of what they're described as capable of.

I beg to differ. Marines don't do stealth. Scouts do. and Scouts are equipped with lesser weaponary. Kasrkins lives kinda depends on their stealth. Marines/scouts can do a Monty Python-esque " 'tis but a scratch"

Hey Raven Guard Hows it going!

Asherian Command wrote:Did someone really say Uriel Ventris?
Why Not Cato Scarius?
He has douche written all over him.

Oh yeah him as well, forgot about him.

Roadkill Zombie wrote:

So now I hate the Imperium and all that it stands for. The entire imperium is despicable. The emperor was an evil warlord and deserves to die, along with his evil empire. If mankind stooped to that low of a moral code they don't deserve to exist.

I beg to differ. Survival or obliteration will be the standards by which history will judge Mankind. No one prosecutes victors. Whether it's 40k or the real world, 'true justice' does not exist. What is just for some is unjust for others. The simple truth is that the winners are just while the losers get nothing at all. The strong rule while the weak and powerless submit or die. That is the highest, most absolute law of the universe: survival of the fittest. If the Imperium didn't do what it needs to, then it and Mankind would have been destroyed long ago.

And Mankind has already stooped to that level. The Holocaust, the fire-bombing of Japan, the nuclear attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Stalin's Purges, the Crusades...need I go on? By your logic, we shouldn't even be talking right now, since we don't deserve to exist. But we do, because by the blood of countless deaths we have earned our survival: survival of the fittest.

At least the Eldar repented of their evil and are now spending their lives trying to stop it. The Imperium just keeps going on the path of Evil not giving a crap about who they hurt.

And what is so different between Humans and Eldar? The Humans destroy everything that threatens them. Are the Eldar really so different, killing billions of Humans to save a mere handful of Eldar? Is there any difference between the pride and disdain of Humans and Eldar respectively? And you're missing the point of 40k. It's not good vs. evil. It's bad vs. worse. Don't talk about good and evil either - they are mere Human gibberish that are meaningless in the context of the greater reality.

I dislike threads about the Imperium vs Star/wars/trek/gate

Tadashi wrote:

Roadkill Zombie wrote:

So now I hate the Imperium and all that it stands for. The entire imperium is despicable. The emperor was an evil warlord and deserves to die, along with his evil empire. If mankind stooped to that low of a moral code they don't deserve to exist.

I beg to differ. Survival or obliteration will be the standards by which history will judge Mankind. No one prosecutes victors. Whether it's 40k or the real world, 'true justice' does not exist. What is just for some is unjust for others. The simple truth is that the winners are just while the losers get nothing at all. The strong rule while the weak and powerless submit or die. That is the highest, most absolute law of the universe: survival of the fittest. If the Imperium didn't do what it needs to, then it and Mankind would have been destroyed long ago.

Actually, the species which can best adapt to it's environment survives, not the strongest. Hence why small mammals survived when the Dinosaurs died. Humanity in the 40k universe is doomed whilst it remains static, not advancing or adapting. Unless it opens itself to new ideas and new technologies it will fall.

The races which are going to be best prepared for survival are the Tau, Tyranids and Orks. All of these races are either already adapted to survival way beyond what humanity could ever hope to be (Orks) or still adapting, be it physically (Tyranids) or technologically (Tau).

@Tadashi....Don't take it too seriously dude, I'm just explaining why I don't like the Emperor or the Imperium and why I play Eldar. It's just the way I see the game and I'm not gonna derail the thread by getting into a moral debate about the Imperium. I was just giving my reasons as to what I dislike and hate in the game as the OP asked us to do.

By the way, no one has answered my question about how they felt about Space Wolves in 2nd edition....

Leandros from Space Marine.

Dislike:
Necrons getting up after you knock them down
Assault marines not being troops,
People complaining about vanilla marines getting cool toys via forgeworld
No apothecary for vanilla marines as elites/HQ

Hates:
Plague marines
Khorn beserkers
Grey kniiiiiiiiiights!!!
Eldrad