Assassins vs. Ghazghkull

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**Bobthehero**

Miraclefish wrote: seven metre-tall behemoth, the size of an Astartes Dreadnought and as tough as one, too.

Well that makes him an easier target, no?
And the Vindicare has rounds that can blow Landraiders, I am sure a Dreadnought-strong armor is no problem.

**Decio**

Send Chenkov with 3 billion conscripts after Gazzy.

**Manchu**

I think you'd just end up with 3 billion dead conscripts and one dead commander. The thing is, Chenkov may think like an ork -- but his conscripts don't.

**Grimnarsmate**

I've got an idea

!!! Either build a titan that has a firing balcony just for vindicare, maybe can fot 100 or so sniper peeps. Alternatively just evacuate the planet and call down an exterminatus round to the face.

**Manchu**

Meh, he's not even that big of threat. Yarrick will deal with it, like always.

**phantommaster**

If the Vindicare fails... then Callidus disguises as an Ork and goes for it... if that fails a team of Venumiums, Culexus and Eversors, probs 2 or 3 of each should get the job done

**Decio**

lol, I wonder what would happen if Cain went after him. Both have significant plot armor, one canon, and one in a book series.

**Manchu**

phantommaster wrote:If the Vindicare fails... then Callidus disguises as an Ork and goes for it...

Did you really think Ghazghkull has been talking with Gork and Mork this whole time? It's just a cally disguised as Gork and Mork!

**Ascalam**

Maybe the orks all believe that Ghaz can't die so strongly that he literally can't

Yay waaagh field...

If the Officio Assassinorum could kill Ghaz, they would have by now, as he's up there on the IOM's most wanted list

**Frazzled**

Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:In fact, Weirdboyz and Warpheads aren't even physkers at all, they just collect the energy generated by the surrounding boyz and release it in what all the other races call physic powers; They're really just a lighting rod to harness the power of the Ork's collective energies. Going back to the topic of Ghazghkull, this is the PROPHET of MORK and GORK; anyone else not wrap their heads around this? He's got the brutality of Gork and the cunning of Mork. He's the one who single-handily plunged Armageddon into a state of everliving war the forces of more than 30 other Warlords of multiple empires (including the Crooked Moonz Tribe); all we need now is Khorne to show up and THEN we have a party. He's the in' Warlord of the Goff Klan; the most militaristic Ork Klan in existence. Unlike the leaders of the pussy Imperium, he leads his forces from the front (in both charismatic and Ork fashion) and alone can change the tide in battle. When the Third War of Armageddon began, over TWENTY Space Marine chapters responded; one of which was the ENTIRE Salamander's chapter, and they only have seven 120-man companies including their scout companies. Even three crusade companies of the Black Templars was there, and the Space Wolves sent three of their Great Companies as well. He is the frankenstein of Mad Dok Grotsnik, the crazed Ork who planted bombs in Nobz heads when they got cybork bodies from him, and blew them all up when they almost killed him. Ghazghkull's Grod is Yarrick, the savior of the Second War, a man who speaks both fluent Ork and wields a powerklaw from a Warboss he killed while fighting through the pain of his right arm cut off, and is hunting down Ghazghkull with the help of the Black Templars

On top of all this, you're telling me a Imperial Assassin has what it takes to kill the greatest Ork Overlord that has done this much and LIVED?????? Bull

Respect the green tide.

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Bobthehero wrote:^
Use the Vindicare as a spotter and fling a Vortex Deathstrike or three at the right spot.

Now thats executive thinking.

**blazinpsycho&typhooni**

Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:
blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:Gazzy is just like an Orky emprah, only person I can see killing him is probably his son X) or some other ork, don't see humans doing it any time soon

We have to remember that Orks reproduce asexually, and if a Ork could beat Ghazghkull; wouldn't we have seem that?

Orks win through strength, experience, or pure dumb luck... I'm guess the last one X)

Well actually hoping the last one, would be hilarious to see the great Gazzy be mortally wounded by another nob and then stuck on an orky throne

**AlmightyWalrus**

Ascalam wrote:If the Officio Assassinorum could kill Ghaz, they would have by now, as he's up there on the IOM's most wanted list

IIRC Ghazghkull led the space battle at Armageddon, meaning that the assassins haven't gotten a "clear shot" so to speak. They may be good, but they have to board Ghaz's Command Rok, get to him and then kill him without being discovered.

**Ascalam**

He spent a good amount of time on the ground too, including running over Yarrick in his tank IIRC

He's been there several times

**willhman**

Ok Ghazz doesnt lead his forces at the front. He has warbosses for that. He leads all his forces from behind the scenes. Only coming out when the fighting is to good to miss. He probably is in his warship In a huge fleet of warships. We dont know which ship he is on since he has never been discovered on one. In the end it is almost impossible for them to track him. There might be some ways but they havent found him yet so I dont know.

**Ascalam**

Actually he's generally portrayed as being in the thick of the action

Pg 58 Ork Dex
Pg 22 Ork Dex

Possibly PG 9 also, but that could just be a megaboss.

I don't see anything in the fluff saying he sits it out on a command ship.

I think i remember him teleporting up to Nazdreg's one after fighting on the planet's surface in one BL novel though..

**Decio**

Sucks that you can't use Exterminatus or Orbital Bombardment 'cause of the civilians and sheer number of troops there.

lol, thought of yet another douchey Inquisitor moment.
"I don't care that there are Space Marines and Guardsmen."
"But-"
"Fire ALL of the lazers at dem!"
"Sir, with upmost-"
"DO IT NOW."

**Grey Templar**

The Imperium has never let civilians or their own troops stop an Exterminatus.

Its just that Armageddon is too valuable as a planet to Exterminate.

**Kaldor**

Harriticus wrote:This assumption of "if the assassins wanted to get there, they could", is silly. Ghazghkull is no fool and has immense security around him.

Space ninjas.

Space. Ninjas.

Ghazzy might as well give up now.

**Ascalam**

Decio wrote:Sucks that you can't use Exterminatus or Orbital Bombardment 'cause of the civilians and sheer number of troops there.

lol, thought of yet another douchey Inquisitor moment.
"I don't care that there are Space Marines and Guardsmen."
"But-"
"Fire ALL of the lazers at dem!"
"Sir, with upmost-"
"DO IT NOW."

**Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim**

willhman wrote:Ok Ghazz doesnt lead his forces at the front. He has warbosses for that. He leads all his forces from behind the scenes. Only coming out when the fighting is to good to miss. He probably is in his warship In a huge fleet of warships. We dont know which ship he is on since he has never been discovered on one. In the end it is almost impossible for them to track him. There might be some ways but they havent found him yet so I dont know.

BULL

ing

. The ones that do that tactic aren't warbosses at all. Warbosses, Warlords, the Overlord Gazzy ALL lead from the front to maintain their position as leader. Ghazghkull may have warbosses under his command, but he has them control a section of the entire war; with him traveling around from fight to fight where it's the brutal. The reason why the warbosses are incharge of the war now is because Ghazghkull went to conquer worlds whose defenses were at bare minimum for the effort at Armageddon.

**Ork Teen**

Ascalam wrote:He spent a good amount of time on the ground too, including running over Yarrick in his tank IIRC

He's been there several times

Haha, no, its way better than that. Ghazzy had no tank at the time. He heard of an imperial commissar that was stopping his plans, So he hunted Yarrick down (I believe behind enemy lines) found him... and headbutted him to near death... much cooler than a tank, and just makes him seem more amazing in general.

**Ascalam**

Yup, Pg 23 Ork dex under Salvation.

He also got run over on pg 24, with a battlefortress called Doomrolla, although it doesn't say Ghaz was behind the wheel :( Would be cool if he was though.

**willhman**

Oops!!! I misread that part in the ork codex

my bad guys sorry...

**Harriticus**

Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:In fact, Weirdboyz and Warpheads aren't even physkers at all, they just collect the energy generated by the surrounding boyz and release it in what all the other races call physic powers; They're really just a lighting rod to harness the power of the Ork's collective energies. Going back to the topic of Ghazghkull, this is the PROPHET of MORK and GORK; anyone else not wrap their heads around this? He's got the brutality of Gork and the cunning of Mork. He's the one who single-handily plunged Armageddon into a state of everliving war the forces of more than 30 other Warlords of multiple empires (including the Crooked Moonz Tribe); all we need now is Khorne to show up and THEN we have a party. He's the in' Warlord of the Goff Klan; the most militaristic Ork Klan in existence. Unlike the leaders of the pussy Imperium, he leads his forces from the front (in both charismatic and Ork fashion) and alone can change the tide in battle. When the Third War of Armageddon began, over TWENTY Space Marine chapters responded; one of which was the ENTIRE Salamander's chapter, and they only have seven 120-man companies including their scout companies. Even three crusade companies of the Black Templars was there, and the Space Wolves sent three of their Great Companies as well. He is the frankenstein of Mad Dok Grotsnik, the crazed Ork who planted bombs in Nobz heads when they got cybork bodies from him, and blew them all up when they almost killed him. Ghazghkull's Grod is Yarrick, the savior of the Second War, a man who speaks both fluent Ork and wields a powerklaw from a Warboss he killed while fighting through the pain of his right arm cut off, and is hunting down Ghazghkull with the help of the Black Templars

On top of all this, you're telling me a Imperial Assassin has what it takes to kill the greatest Ork Overlord that has done this much and LIVED?????? Bull

Actually as of 6th Edition a greater Warboss has been mention, simply known as The Beast. In M32 he actually came fairly close to uniting the Ork Race and led the largest recorded Waaagh! in history which was defeated by the Imperium at "great devastation" to the Space Marines. As of right now not much is known about him though.

**Grey Templar**

The greatest Warboss ever was defeated during the Great Crusade by the Emperor. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gharkul_Blackfang

He defeated 3 Primarchs before the Emperor arrived in the nick of time to save them.

**Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim**

I'm just saying; we're talking about one of te greatest Orks of all time, and saying a assassin could kill him? If it could be done, it would be done by now.

**purplefood**

Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:I'm just saying; we're talking about one of te greatest Orks of all time, and saying a assassin could kill him? If it could be done, it would be done by now.

That's a stupid way to think...
Example: The Imperium could probably totally annihilate the Tau with comparative ease. It can be done but at great cost. The Imperium has decided that the cost to its other sectors of space is too great.
They could probably kill Ghazghkull with an assassin. Maybe several but it could be done. He isn't invincible and an imperial assassin is one of the deadliest things the Imperium has at their disposal...

**Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim**

Yes; but as of right now they don't know where he is. Can't kill a target if you don't know where they are

**purplefood**

Well no but that's besides the point...
I could make a similar argument that the Tau can't kill the Emperor...

**orkdestroyer1**

Hmmmm....lets see ghazghull in kustom battlewagon vindicare turbo penetrator's it and kaboom kustom battle wagon destroyed and then picks off ghazghull with one shot (if ghazghull doesnt have eternal warrior)