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Or as stated, TL weapons. They need either or. Honestly Id rather the git findas make them TL then ignore cover. Ignores cover is kindda eh, with focus fire, not to mention any Ork worth his salt will bring a wagon full of burnaboyz as a big ol F U against a cover heavy army.