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Which polls are tied?
   
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 d-usa wrote:
Which polls are tied?

Rasmussen has them even, Gallup has Romney back by two - within the margin.
   
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So just looking at popular vote then. I was thinking about odds of winning, sorry.

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Dang... didn't know I was... um... notorious.

My biggest issue with the Romney campaign is that they're doing a horrible job of countering the meme that "he's just a rich white guy who doesn't understand struggling people".

Where are these anecdote in the ads?
http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/ann-romney-to-appear-at-marquette-university-at-noon-r06ufgt-170519186.htm


...
Fry said, "From the personal side, after government, in 2008, I had a massive (noncancerous) brain tumor and nearly died. I can tell you one of the first phone calls I got was from Governor Romney."

"I was a little medicated at the time and I was telling him, it just wasn't fair. In his very reassuring voice, he said, 'Whatever I can do to help, I will be there for you,' " she said.

Lindstrom, who had young children when she served with Romney, said the governor told her: "Family comes first."

"To have a boss say, 'We'll have mistakes but they'll be our mistakes,' was very empowering," she said.

Herzfelder said: "I see this man up there that I know has this great strength, this great warmth. His actions really speak to the kind of man he is."

Gillespie recalled how Romney called her every night, for 10 straight nights, when her father was in a coma after heart surgery.

And she told one more story. The day she moved to Massachusetts, the moving company didn't get all her furniture inside the house. The governor called and asked her how things were going. She said furniture was still on the driveway.

"I'll get the boys," Romney told her.

At 9 p.m., Romney and his sons moved the furniture into the house.

Dude... it's these stories that makes me wanna vote for him...

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6 Nov needs so get here. I feel bad for you guys and girls in th swing state with the ad bombardments...just a little bad....stll stocking food and ammo..my shipment of sandbags are in...whoever wins we be on a downhill slide to OMG GOVERNAGGEDONN!!! I say twenty trilllion in debt by 2014.

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 Jihadin wrote:
6 Nov needs so get here. I feel bad for you guys and girls in th swing state with the ad bombardments...just a little bad....stll stocking food and ammo..my shipment of sandbags are in...whoever wins we be on a downhill slide to OMG GOVERNAGGEDONN!!! I say twenty trilllion in debt by 2014.

Yeah, I live in northern VA. Obama's practically moved here. It's pretty annoying.

And since I'm also an undecided, I'm feeling like the prettiest girl at a very tedious ball.
   
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d-usa wrote:So just looking at popular vote then. I was thinking about odds of winning, sorry.


I saw the odds of Romney winning the election posted as a 3-to-1 shot, but I forget where. Honestly, those odds didn't seem long enough personally. His entire campaign is in shambles now.



whembly wrote:Dang... didn't know I was... um... notorious.

My biggest issue with the Romney campaign is that they're doing a horrible job of countering the meme that "he's just a rich white guy who doesn't understand struggling people".

Where are these anecdote in the ads?
http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/ann-romney-to-appear-at-marquette-university-at-noon-r06ufgt-170519186.htm

Spoiler:

...
Fry said, "From the personal side, after government, in 2008, I had a massive (noncancerous) brain tumor and nearly died. I can tell you one of the first phone calls I got was from Governor Romney."

"I was a little medicated at the time and I was telling him, it just wasn't fair. In his very reassuring voice, he said, 'Whatever I can do to help, I will be there for you,' " she said.

Lindstrom, who had young children when she served with Romney, said the governor told her: "Family comes first."

"To have a boss say, 'We'll have mistakes but they'll be our mistakes,' was very empowering," she said.

Herzfelder said: "I see this man up there that I know has this great strength, this great warmth. His actions really speak to the kind of man he is."

Gillespie recalled how Romney called her every night, for 10 straight nights, when her father was in a coma after heart surgery.

And she told one more story. The day she moved to Massachusetts, the moving company didn't get all her furniture inside the house. The governor called and asked her how things were going. She said furniture was still on the driveway.

"I'll get the boys," Romney told her.

At 9 p.m., Romney and his sons moved the furniture into the house.

Dude... it's these stories that makes me wanna vote for him...

Dude... you're not his family or a close friend, and that means he would have you turned into dogfood if he didn't have a good reason not to.

And you can't call the rich-white-guy-who-doesn't-understand-struggling-people a meme unless you're also willing to call gravity a "meme". He has never once in his life not been given everything to him on a silver platter. Hell, his wife even described their "struggles" as the days when they had to live off of the dividends of their $300,000 stock portfolio. They truly have no idea, and I get the impression his wife has a "let them eat cake" attitude.
   
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 azazel the cat wrote:


whembly wrote:Dang... didn't know I was... um... notorious.

My biggest issue with the Romney campaign is that they're doing a horrible job of countering the meme that "he's just a rich white guy who doesn't understand struggling people".

Where are these anecdote in the ads?
http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/ann-romney-to-appear-at-marquette-university-at-noon-r06ufgt-170519186.htm

Spoiler:

...
Fry said, "From the personal side, after government, in 2008, I had a massive (noncancerous) brain tumor and nearly died. I can tell you one of the first phone calls I got was from Governor Romney."

"I was a little medicated at the time and I was telling him, it just wasn't fair. In his very reassuring voice, he said, 'Whatever I can do to help, I will be there for you,' " she said.

Lindstrom, who had young children when she served with Romney, said the governor told her: "Family comes first."

"To have a boss say, 'We'll have mistakes but they'll be our mistakes,' was very empowering," she said.

Herzfelder said: "I see this man up there that I know has this great strength, this great warmth. His actions really speak to the kind of man he is."

Gillespie recalled how Romney called her every night, for 10 straight nights, when her father was in a coma after heart surgery.

And she told one more story. The day she moved to Massachusetts, the moving company didn't get all her furniture inside the house. The governor called and asked her how things were going. She said furniture was still on the driveway.

"I'll get the boys," Romney told her.

At 9 p.m., Romney and his sons moved the furniture into the house.

Dude... it's these stories that makes me wanna vote for him...

Dude... you're not his family or a close friend,

Yeah... so?
and that means he would have you turned into dogfood if he didn't have a good reason not to.

Um...wat? Seriously? Step away from the bong dude... (no, wait... gimmie dat!)

So... I take it that you didn't like him participating in the business cannibalism market... eh?

And you can't call the rich-white-guy-who-doesn't-understand-struggling-people a meme unless you're also willing to call gravity a "meme". He has never once in his life not been given everything to him on a silver platter. Hell, his wife even described their "struggles" as the days when they had to live off of the dividends of their $300,000 stock portfolio. They truly have no idea, and I get the impression his wife has a "let them eat cake" attitude.

Methinks you just don't like rich people....

And yes, you're providing a perfect example of Romney's perception problem.

To you, he's "Scroge on Steriods".

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 whembly wrote:
Dang... didn't know I was... um... notorious.

My biggest issue with the Romney campaign is that they're doing a horrible job of countering the meme that "he's just a rich white guy who doesn't understand struggling people".

Where are these anecdote in the ads?
http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/ann-romney-to-appear-at-marquette-university-at-noon-r06ufgt-170519186.htm


...
Fry said, "From the personal side, after government, in 2008, I had a massive (noncancerous) brain tumor and nearly died. I can tell you one of the first phone calls I got was from Governor Romney."

"I was a little medicated at the time and I was telling him, it just wasn't fair. In his very reassuring voice, he said, 'Whatever I can do to help, I will be there for you,' " she said.

Lindstrom, who had young children when she served with Romney, said the governor told her: "Family comes first."

"To have a boss say, 'We'll have mistakes but they'll be our mistakes,' was very empowering," she said.

Herzfelder said: "I see this man up there that I know has this great strength, this great warmth. His actions really speak to the kind of man he is."

Gillespie recalled how Romney called her every night, for 10 straight nights, when her father was in a coma after heart surgery.

And she told one more story. The day she moved to Massachusetts, the moving company didn't get all her furniture inside the house. The governor called and asked her how things were going. She said furniture was still on the driveway.

"I'll get the boys," Romney told her.

At 9 p.m., Romney and his sons moved the furniture into the house.

Dude... it's these stories that makes me wanna vote for him...

So what? Was it his Aide? Random Person? Family Member, Im not saying Romney is evil, Im sure most Decent people would do that.

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My god, the man's children helped their mother move furniture? Certainly most children, and certainly not the America hating Obama girls, would ever help their parents with anything, as is the liberal way. Certainly now that I know their five children help move furniture, I can see why he is specially suited to be POTUS.


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I'm more surprised at a multimillionaire businessman using a removals company that wouldn't deliver the goods.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

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Spoiler:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Dang... didn't know I was... um... notorious.

My biggest issue with the Romney campaign is that they're doing a horrible job of countering the meme that "he's just a rich white guy who doesn't understand struggling people".

Where are these anecdote in the ads?
http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/ann-romney-to-appear-at-marquette-university-at-noon-r06ufgt-170519186.htm


...
Fry said, "From the personal side, after government, in 2008, I had a massive (noncancerous) brain tumor and nearly died. I can tell you one of the first phone calls I got was from Governor Romney."

"I was a little medicated at the time and I was telling him, it just wasn't fair. In his very reassuring voice, he said, 'Whatever I can do to help, I will be there for you,' " she said.

Lindstrom, who had young children when she served with Romney, said the governor told her: "Family comes first."

"To have a boss say, 'We'll have mistakes but they'll be our mistakes,' was very empowering," she said.

Herzfelder said: "I see this man up there that I know has this great strength, this great warmth. His actions really speak to the kind of man he is."

Gillespie recalled how Romney called her every night, for 10 straight nights, when her father was in a coma after heart surgery.

And she told one more story. The day she moved to Massachusetts, the moving company didn't get all her furniture inside the house. The governor called and asked her how things were going. She said furniture was still on the driveway.

"I'll get the boys," Romney told her.

At 9 p.m., Romney and his sons moved the furniture into the house.

Dude... it's these stories that makes me wanna vote for him...

So what? Was it his Aide? Random Person? Family Member, Im not saying Romney is evil, Im sure most Decent people would do that.

Does it matter who? Really?

It's about optics and perception... here you have a super WEALTH family doing this (Son, drop whatever you doing and let's help this lady move her stuff back in the house).


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 Ahtman wrote:
My god, the man's children helped their mother move furniture? Certainly most children, and certainly not the America hating Obama girls, would ever help their parents with anything, as is the liberal way. Certainly now that I know their five children help move furniture, I can see why he is specially suited to be POTUS.


Re-read that dude...

It wasn't their mom's (Ann's) furniture... it was one of their Dad's employee that they helped move...


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 Kilkrazy wrote:
I'm more surprised at a multimillionaire businessman using a removals company that wouldn't deliver the goods.

Huh?

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 Ahtman wrote:
My god, the man's children helped their mother move furniture? Certainly most children, and certainly not the America hating Obama girls, would ever help their parents with anything, as is the liberal way. Certainly now that I know their five children help move furniture, I can see why he is specially suited to be POTUS.



Am I detecting just a hint of sarcasm there? Must have my detector recalibrated. It's been giving off these weird signals recently. Signal-to-noise ratio is also getting worse, like there's more background sarcasm lately.
   
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Here this should help:

Romney: Rich Republican = evil capitalist running dog.
Obama: Rich Democrat = evil communist running dog.

Frazzled 2012! A steak in every bowl!

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I don't like steak.

Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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Oh Heck...we have ONE of those vegans on here.....also am I suppose to "moved" by the candidates "sob" story?

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 MrDwhitey wrote:
I don't like steak.
I can no longer acknowledge your humanity.

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 Jihadin wrote:
Oh Heck...we have ONE of those vegans on here.....also am I suppose to "moved" by the candidates "sob" story?


Certainly you had much more sympathy for their plight when you only had enough servants to have only one of them go through boot camp for you while you practically wasted away on the beach in the Virgin Islands from the interest from your investments. Rough times for all, really.

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LOL I've to much pride for someone to do what I want to do....wait...this isn't 1700's?

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I'm not a vegan. I have Selective Eating Disorder (the one most people grow out of) so I only like processed meat.

Annoyingly I've never had a good steak, the ones I've had were all like leather, and so I didn't like them.

Oh, and end of sidetracking.

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Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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 MrDwhitey wrote:
I don't like steak.


Reported.

Can we get a ban over here?
   
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A big round of facepalm for her, come on, let's make it count! On the house!



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gorgon wrote:

In short, his campaign's done a poor job for him, and Mitt's done a poor job for himself. I still say Mitt is completely electable if a) his party would let him run as the moderate he is, and b) you give him a campaign team capable of playing up his strengths and downplaying his weaknesses.


Speaking from my personal experience with political consultants that lean either way:

They tend to believe the narrative put forward by either party, and further believe that other people believe it. They will dismiss neutral information if it does not agree with their preferred narrative, and advise their client as though such information does not exist. I'll give a liberal example so that its clear I'm not picking on Republicans or conservatives. I've seen well paid professionals claim that the percentage of people who claim to be Pro-Life is much lower than it really is because they don't understand what it means to be Pro-Life. This is a bad argument because, while it may be true that they don't understand the term as an analyst does, the term still has obvious resonance and, therefore, political significance.

As I implied this happens in firms dedicated to both parties, but for whatever reason it seems more pronounced in those dedicated to Republicans.


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 d-usa wrote:
 MrDwhitey wrote:
I don't like steak.


Reported.

Can we get a ban over here?


I also don't like steak, or beef of any kind.

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You guys are like the 47% of people that claim to be Steak victims and will never support steaks. I cannot worry about you any more.

Back to Ann romney:

http://lucilleandmitt.tumblr.com/

   
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dogma wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
 MrDwhitey wrote:
I don't like steak.


Reported.

Can we get a ban over here?


I also don't like steak, or beef of any kind.


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 Seaward wrote:
I wouldn't exactly count Mitt out yet. He is, after all, a moderate, and no matter how much we like to suggest that his base is forcing him to the right, his base also chose him as the nominee. There are a lot more moderates in the Republican party than there are extremists, it's just that extremists are vocal.

The polls are tied, nationally, but they're also, as near as I (and others) can tell, massively oversampling Democrats; the models that show Obama with the tie or a slight edge appear to be based on even better turnout than 2008, which is extraordinarily unlikely to occur.


lol

UNSKEWED POLLS HAVE ROMNEY WINNING1!

   
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 d-usa wrote:

Back to Ann romney:




Why are those sunglasses a thing?

Also: pearl necklace joke.

 Seaward wrote:

The polls are tied, nationally, but they're also, as near as I (and others) can tell, massively oversampling Democrats; the models that show Obama with the tie or a slight edge appear to be based on even better turnout than 2008, which is extraordinarily unlikely to occur.


How can you tell they're oversampling Democrats?

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 dogma wrote:


 Seaward wrote:

The polls are tied, nationally, but they're also, as near as I (and others) can tell, massively oversampling Democrats; the models that show Obama with the tie or a slight edge appear to be based on even better turnout than 2008, which is extraordinarily unlikely to occur.


How can you tell they're oversampling Democrats?

Look at the D/R/I splits...

Then look for that splits in the 2008/2010 splits and you'll see that they'll either oversample (D) and/or women (who traditional breaks for (D)).

However, lemme say this here... the past weekly polls are sorta worthless. Start paying attention now...
Check this dude out (http://datechguyblog.com/2012/09/17/demoralized-as-hell-the-poll-the-media-isnt-talking-about-edition/)... he really goes into the details of the splits in some of the polls.

But...really guys... it's all a guess.

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Well if a we elect a man based on wether or not he will help move furniture....Then if he get elected will he be at our beck and call to move it?

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That blog is awesome...

The election of Barack Obama was the biggest con ever perpetuated on the US Public, the polls the media is reporting these days is a close second.


I like FiveThirtyEight. They include a buttload of data and explain their methodology frequently.

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