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 Castiel wrote:
Noone has blamed the victim yet?

I mean come on, it was clearly the girl's fault for being home alone. The man was just trying to do a bit of casual burglary, even ringing the doorbell to make sure noone was home, and suddenly gets shot as he opens a cupboard. He had no idea there was an armed child there!

But who is the victim in this case? The girl who's home was broken into? Or is it the dumbass who got shot?

Clearly the poor innocent man who was shot by that EVIL gun armed tween is the victim here! How ever shall he safely rob homes again with armed 12 year olds ready and waiting?

Also I concur... this dude is gonna have A LOT of fun in GP when they lock him up.

Good for the girl!

Intruder in my house would be dead.... 'jus saying.

 azazel the cat wrote:
Poor fire control. Should've waited until the intruder opened the door and presented her with a clear target.

I am glad she didnt. Then she will remember the sound of gunfire in an enclosed space and th flash, but not the trauma of having shot someone. There will be a new hole in the door, a sound and a fleeing shadow as the intruder tried to flee.
Best outcome really.

Trying to hide guns from kids is a big reason for kids to become curious and look for them and play with them.

Teaching kids how to handle and respect guns is no different than teaching them to handle and respect a lot of tools you might have in your garage.

 d-usa wrote:
Trying to hide guns from kids is a big reason for kids to become curious and look for them and play with them.

Teaching kids how to handle and respect guns is no different than teaching them to handle and respect a lot of tools you might have in your garage.

It's funny you should say that. I'm intimately more worried about my nieces and nephews getting hurt in the garage than the gun room. I never put a whole lot of thought to either, because I a. Don't have my own kids and B. grew up on a farm which is this sands of deaths waiting to happen. My middle brother barely allows his kids out of his sight in my house. And I don't blame him.

 mattyrm wrote:
Shame she didn't go for a head shot.

No excuse at that range.

I didn't need to read any farther than this.

This story warms the cockles of my heart. Perhaps even deeper than the cockles. Perhaps even the sub-cockle region.

#Dennis Leary paraphrase

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.

I hope you are kidding, I really do.

Wonder what caliber the pistol was...

 d-usa wrote:
Trying to hide guns from kids is a big reason for kids to become curious and look for them and play with them.

Teaching kids how to handle and respect guns is no different than teaching them to handle and respect a lot of tools you might have in your garage.

Exalted.

 Lordhat wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Trying to hide guns from kids is a big reason for kids to become curious and look for them and play with them.

Teaching kids how to handle and respect guns is no different than teaching them to handle and respect a lot of tools you might have in your garage.

Exalted.

Same.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Castiel wrote:
Noone has blamed the victim yet?

I mean come on, it was clearly the girl's fault for being home alone. The man was just trying to do a bit of casual burglary, even ringing the doorbell to make sure noone was home, and suddenly gets shot as he opens a cupboard. He had no idea there was an armed child there!

But who is the victim in this case? The girl who's home was broken into? Or is it the dumbass who got shot?

Both?...

Did they at least say where he got hit?

Upper chest and guessing a collapse lung to from the limited description of the perp.

Sadly the tax payers will pick up his medical tab.

We should make law breakers pay for any medical treatment they recieve while incarcerated

So there it is finally...
It is all your fault for paying taxes.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Sadly the tax payers will pick up his medical tab.

We should make law breakers pay for any medical treatment they recieve while incarcerated

While I agree that it's a sad state of affairs that prisoners get better healthcare than law abiding citizens who are merely poor, how do you propose we would implement such a policy?

Those incarcerated live better then those of us deployed

 Jihadin wrote:
Those incarcerated live better then those of us deployed

About the only way we military folks are equal to prisoners is in our food....seriously look at the main meal boxes that come in to the chow halls. They say "for consumption by soldiers and prisoners only"

Yup, Class D meat baby.

 Lordhat wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Sadly the tax payers will pick up his medical tab.

We should make law breakers pay for any medical treatment they recieve while incarcerated

While I agree that it's a sad state of affairs that prisoners get better healthcare than law abiding citizens who are merely poor, how do you propose we would implement such a policy?

Easy, the people just get billed for it like anyone that goes to the Emergency Room that doesn't have insurance.

So they are thrown into black pit of our Healthcare system, the tender mercies of crippling debt

And lets just toss on any medical bills that officers or bystanders incurr as a result of the crime in question onto their tab while we are at it.


Perpetrator resists arrest, perp cracks a rib in the scuffle, officer suffers a torn bicep. perp is billed for his medical treatment and the officers medical treatment. He also is billed for any treatment he recieves while incarcerated.

So, in addition to any criminal charges he is sentanced for, he has many thousands of dollars in medical bills. Which he must pay even if the charges are later dropped. So its a double whammy.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Sadly the tax payers will pick up his medical tab.

We should make law breakers pay for any medical treatment they recieve while incarcerated

Look on the bright side, perhaps God will smite him before it comes down to that... You never know.

I'd say getting shot by a 12 year old girl qualifies as divine retribution. O'wait, its the welcoming reception in the slammer thats the retribution

at least if they were firing bolters their aim would be horrendous

 DIDM wrote:
at least if they were firing bolters their aim would be horrendous

and a left hook to the Sisters comes out of nowhere.

Poor bolter biatches

Just a nick from a bolter round just would have removed the chest cavity

 Lordhat wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Sadly the tax payers will pick up his medical tab.

We should make law breakers pay for any medical treatment they recieve while incarcerated

While I agree that it's a sad state of affairs that prisoners get better healthcare than law abiding citizens who are merely poor, how do you propose we would implement such a policy?

law-abiding citizens.. reference to the movie?
If so--> I see what you did there.
If not: WHELP. okay.

In any case, I'm happy for the 12-year old. But I wonder: have any of the U.S. election candidates addressed the topic of paying taxes for prisoners and such?
That could make an interesting argument with only a few weeks to go.

Also, I wish I learned how to fire guns. only a few years older than the 12-year old... self-defense goes down to martial arts if it has to happen.. Nunchucks, wooden sword,

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Yup, Class D meat baby.

I have no idea what you guys are bitching about. I love the food. The mystery Meat (veal ha!) with gravy. Chipped beef and toast, corned beef and stale white bread.
Waaaait a minute we don't eat like prisoners; we eat like turn of the cuntury Irish!

 AustonT wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Yup, Class D meat baby.

I have no idea what you guys are bitching about. I love the food. The mystery Meat (veal ha!) with gravy. Chipped beef and toast, corned beef and stale white bread.
Waaaait a minute we don't eat like prisoners; we eat like turn of the cuntury Irish!

And the difference is...

 Grey Templar wrote:

 AustonT wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Yup, Class D meat baby.

I have no idea what you guys are bitching about. I love the food. The mystery Meat (veal ha!) with gravy. Chipped beef and toast, corned beef and stale white bread.
Waaaait a minute we don't eat like prisoners; we eat like turn of the cuntury Irish!

And the difference is...

We aren't in Australia.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.

I'm more concerned about what would have happened to her if she HADN'T known where the gun was and had access to it!


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im just saying that at the age of 12, even if properly trained, mistakes are more likely to happen. I would rather my 12 year old, who i will talk to about guns and take to a shooting range so he/she will know what a gun is actually like, to handle a gun. In that situation, I would have told her to go out back to the neighbors house.

And if the intruder's too close to reach an exterior door safely?
And if the intruder can run faster than the 12-year old?
And if the neighbor's not home?
And if the intruder has a gun and no reason NOT to kill the neighbor to get to the kid?

You make four too many assumptions when life is on the line.