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http://www.news9.com/story/19858704/12-year-old-girl-shoots-intruder-during-home-invasion

BRYAN COUNTY, Oklahoma - A 12-year-old girl took matters into her own hands during a home invasion in southeast Oklahoma.
It happened on Wednesday when the girl was home alone. She told police a stranger rang the doorbell, then went around to the back door and kicked it in. She called her mom, Debra St. Clair, who told her to get the family gun, hide in a closet and call 911.

That was when St. Clair dropped what she doing and raced home.

"I drove home at a really fast pace to try to get to her, and when I got here the police were already here. And they had the suspect," she said.

The during that time, the intruder made his way through the house. St. Clair's daughter told deputies the man came into the room where she was hiding and began to open up the closet door. That was when the 12-year-old had to make a life-saving decision.

"And what we understand right now, he was turning the doorknob when she fired through the door," said the Bryan County Undersheriff Ken Golden.

The bullet hit the intruder, who deputies identified as 32-year-old Stacey Jones. He took off but did not get far before officers took him down.

"He was sitting down, the policemen had him apprehended at the end of the block. All I saw was some blood coming down his back. I'm not exactly sure where his injury was, but I saw some blood there," explained St. Clair.

Jones was taken to a Texas hospital by helicopter after the incident. An investigator on the case said Jones was released from the hospital Thursday and extradited to the Bryan County Jail.

The 12-year-old girl was not injured during the ordeal.

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Guy named Stacey got shot by a girl... while being a miserable piece of trash.

What a failure.

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Loser,

From now own, firearms training with be mandatory in public schools. Now thats using education wisely.

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I feel bad for his little girl having to shoot someone; which wars with my desire to trumpet my pro-gun beliefs.

OK seems to be a gakcave wasn't tha 19year old widow in OK when she shot an intruder on the phone with 911?

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Poor fire control. Should've waited until the intruder opened the door and presented her with a clear target.


   
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 azazel the cat wrote:
Poor fire control. Should've waited until the intruder opened the door and presented her with a clear target.




No need. She clearly has x-ray vision.

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 azazel the cat wrote:
Poor fire control. Should've waited until the intruder opened the door and presented her with a clear target.



No, that's a pretty legit time to shoot. No reason to give the intruder a better chance to see you. We (a mil/LEO community forum) had a spirited discussion to the legality of shooting through the door when the FBI chainsawed the wrong door down a few months back.

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Shame she didn't go for a head shot.

No excuse at that range.

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Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.

You would be.

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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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Stacey? I can see how a name like that would drive you to a life of crime.

Good for her. It's nice to know that her family is open enough with her to tell her where the family gun is, and that they trusted her enough for it to be withing reach.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


I knew where the guns were and had access to them at an early age. So did my siblings. We were properly trained on the use and dangers of firearms and never 'played' with them. Also our family went out shooting often enough that they weren't a novelty anymore. Guns had no more mystique than the the knives in the block on the kitchen counter; we never bragged about them to our friends, or let them badger us into looking at them.

Real gun control starts and ends with education.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


You're kidding right?

let's look at the facts on this young lady's family.

1) She's from Texas
2) Her mother told her to call 911 AND grab the gun, implying some level of control with the firearm.
3) She's from Texas
4) A gun is intimidating in almost anyone's hands, it doesn't even have to be a kill shot
5) The gun was a last minute defense, since 911 was called, the child's mother was called, and she was told to HIDE, not hunt.

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 Lordhat wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


I knew where the guns were and had access to them at an early age. So did my siblings. We were properly trained on the use and dangers of firearms and never 'played' with them. Also our family went out shooting often enough that they weren't a novelty anymore. Guns had no more mystique than the the knives in the block on the kitchen counter; we never bragged about them to our friends, or let them badger us into looking at them.

Real gun control starts and ends with education.


Yeah, I was loading and firing guns when I was 12. Never unsupervised, but that's the point. Guns are tools. I wouldn't hide screwdrivers from my hypothetical kids. I would teach them how to use them. That was also about the age that I started getting instructed on the power tools, and a lot of those are easily as dangerous to their user, if not more-so.

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12?
Kind of a late bloomer D.

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 AustonT wrote:
12?
Kind of a late bloomer D.


Not my fault. My liberal mother coddled me.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


She called her mom who told her where it was.

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My liberal mother shot 6 deer from a lawn chair when she was pregnant with me. Somewhere I have photographic evidence.

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 Alfndrate wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


You're kidding right?

let's look at the facts on this young lady's family.

1) She's from Texas
2) Her mother told her to call 911 AND grab the gun, implying some level of control with the firearm.
3) She's from Texas
4) A gun is intimidating in almost anyone's hands, it doesn't even have to be a kill shot
5) The gun was a last minute defense, since 911 was called, the child's mother was called, and she was told to HIDE, not hunt.


This happened in Oklahoma, but the burglar was taken to a hospital in Texas. To be fair, that doesn't mean the woman wasn't originally from Texas. We'll take her back, though.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


She called her mom who told her where it was.

Maybe its just me, But i believe that guns shouldnt be handled by anyone under the age of 16.

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Yeah, that's where I read Texas... >_<

Still... at the same time...

And dude, that's your opinion, had the little girl NOT had access the gun, the kid might have been harmed.

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 Alfndrate wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


You're kidding right?

let's look at the facts on this young lady's family.

1) She's from Texas
2) Her mother told her to call 911 AND grab the gun, implying some level of control with the firearm.
3) She's from Texas
4) A gun is intimidating in almost anyone's hands, it doesn't even have to be a kill shot
5) The gun was a last minute defense, since 911 was called, the child's mother was called, and she was told to HIDE, not hunt.


At 12 GC was already versed in shooting .22s .380s, and was a badass with a Beretta 92.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im more concerned that the 12 year old knows where the gun is, and got access to it.


She called her mom who told her where it was.

Maybe its just me, But i believe that guns shouldnt be handled by anyone under the age of 16.


There was fething intruder in the house, who may have known the little girl was there alone and may have been intending to Rape her.

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It doesnt say he had those intentions or knowledge. And no im not defending him, im just playing devils advocate her, just because guns exist, doesnt mean we have to use them.She could have ran out back to her neighbors.

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Hey, she was just doing what her mother told her to do. That's a good, well behaved child if you ask me.

Also, who's to say she couldn't get past the man to get out of the house... Remember, the man had already broken into the house by the time she called her mother...

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I never claimed he did, but its best to assume the worst in a case like this.

And she was told to get the gun and hide, which is the best course of action in this case. Especially since the police and mom are on their way already.

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Im just saying that at the age of 12, even if properly trained, mistakes are more likely to happen. I would rather my 12 year old, who i will talk to about guns and take to a shooting range so he/she will know what a gun is actually like, to handle a gun. In that situation, I would have told her to go out back to the neighbors house.

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As was said, the Intruder was already in the house. It would not have been safe for her to make a break for it. Better the intruder doesn't know you are there, and certaintly not where you are exactly.

She wasn't playing around with the gun, she was hiding in the closet and the gun was her last line of defense.

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I guess wwe will have to agree to disagree, I do not think a child hiding with a gun is the best course of action. You think differently

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