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This is really damn cool. Coming together exquisitely, good sir!

I'd love to see you take on an Imperial or Chaos type tank of this size.

   
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Unexpectedly, an update! I woke up super early this morning for no reason at all, 14 hours before I need to work a 10 hour shift. I probably need to take a nap at some point today, but until then, here's what I got done.

I build a single Bigga Shoota (is that a thing?). I think the regular vehicle mounted Big Shootas are too small looking, so I went with something a little larger. I don't know if anything like this exists in the rules exactly, I'm just making stuff and I'll figure that out later.

So, I built the body, again using this tutorial by Wazzoo200.





All the components are blu-tacked on. Here's how it looks as it's going into the moldbox (the barrel has it's own mold):



The reason I didn't permanently attach the cocking level, ammo box, etc etc is because I want to do a quad mount, and need to be able to swap that stuff from side to side while using the same mold for each gun.

Also, here's how I made the shells:




and the shells are glued together, and then a um.. whatever you call that strip that connects them - I made that out of a little strip of lead foil and glued that on as well.

OK, going to go eat and watch a movie and then maybe take a nap before work. See you guys again on Sunday probably, I'm going out drinking on Saturday.


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Use the rules for the Dakkajet's supashootaz.



 
   
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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Use the rules for the Dakkajet's supashootaz.


Is there any way to get the rules for that? I don't have that WD and don't own or want to own an Ipad... are they integral to the vehicle, or are they an optional upgrade with it's own point value?

Otherwise I might consider them Dakkaguns like from warbikes.

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Nevermind, I googled and found their profile and points on a site reviewing them when they were released. I'm probably not supposed to link that here so I won't. Yeah, those seem like a good fit. Thanks.

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 Ouze wrote:

I don't know if anything like this exists in the rules exactly, I'm just making stuff and I'll figure that out later.


Don't know if you can get any more ork than that...

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OK, I got 4 of them cast up.

This is an awful un-Orky thing to say, but I think they might be too big.



Here's one mounted on the side. It really dwarfs the normal size big shootas.






I might just make these into the quad mount and then put normal size big shootas on the deck.


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 Ouze wrote:
OK, I got 4 of them cast up.

This is an awful un-Orky thing to say, but I think they might be too big.

I might just make these into the quad mount and then put normal size big shootas on the deck.



I think you can make something in between these and the regular big shootas for the deck. These could either go on the quad for the back... or you can use them to make a terrain set AA quad autocannon for your orks? It's BS2 unmanned or you can put a lil mob of grots in there and make it BS3. It will allow you to start your next project... Defence line or a Tower.



 
   
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Well, I molded them so I could definitely make more. It's all one block so I can churn one out every 20 minutes, give or take.

You do agree they're too big for the deck, then?

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I could really use more terrain, so a grot gun emplacement sounds good for future casts.

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 Ouze wrote:
Well, I molded them so I could definitely make more. It's all one block so I can churn one out every 20 minutes, give or take.

You do agree they're too big for the deck, then?


I do, I also think it would be a mistake to just use regular big shootaz for the deck, as you won't be satisfied with them in the months and years to come. Make something in between, the shootas you made weren't that much too big, it was principally the length that's off. So you just need a mite smaller but a degree shorter.

Also have you considered purchasing the forgeworld grot package? I think some sheet magnets and some magnet basing for those and the gunners etc will make it easier to pack/tansport and paint.



 
   
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I have a pretty big pile of grots left over from the various kits I have, but to be honest doing this project has made me realize that although I dislike painting, and am indifferent to playing, I really enjoy building. There's that DCM order coming up; I may partake of adding some more grots to it.

Edit: Yeah, I'm gonna get more grots. Can never really have too many. Also, will build some more (smaller) deck guns later; it didn't really take all that long. But going to bed now.

To that end - I think you saw I screwed up that last order pretty bad because I don't really understand scale. What's a good tubing size for such guns? Less then 1/4", but fairly bigger then 1/8th" - from here or here?

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No idea, but unlike the diamond plate, you will be able to use all the sizes of tube, so treat yourself and get some packets of each. From exhausts to cyborg bits to building pipework, all those sizes will come in useful and that way you will be able to cherrypick for each task.



 
   
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I just went and measured in mm. I think I have a fairly good size reference now. Regular big shootas are 4mm, mine are just under 7, I'm aiming for 5.

Speaking of tubing, I haven't yet started on the engine.

Edit - But I did get some more appropriate tubing.

The following will ship from our Champaign, Illinois distribution center
Estimated Arrival Date:13-Feb-2013 – 15-Feb-2013
LXF743 Evergreen Tube 3/16" .187" (4) 1 $3.19
LXF745 Evergreen Tube 1/4" .250" (3) 1 $3.19
LXF742 Evergreen Tube 5/32" .156" (4) 1 $3.19
LXF746 Evergreen Tube 9/32" .281" (3) 1 $3.19
LXF740 Evergreen Tube 3/32" .093" (6) 1 $3.19

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Mostly, on my phone.

You can never have enough grots on these things. Gnoblars with head swaps also give you some really interesting possiblities.

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WUT?! Weez finally get propa-sized big shootas, and youze say dez too big? WAAAGH, I bonk you onna head!

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 Briancj wrote:
WUT?! Weez finally get propa-sized big shootas, and youze say dez too big? WAAAGH, I bonk you onna head!

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Welllll... I know your post was humorous, but if I can get serious for a moment, I really do think that ork scratchbuilding and kitbashing is really abused in that regard, there is a real art to great ork modelling and there is also a megaton of gak out there with 'stuff glued on other stuff' and I think scale regards, details like rivets and other subtle things are really important in that.

It kind of grindz me gearz to see some really bloody awful ork kitbashes and plastic toys with ork bits randomly stuck on or even, I remember seeing on dakka, some guy sticking an empty icecream tub on top of a rhino and painting some glyphs on it.

Ouze is doing everything right, imo, in checking back on the scale and paying attention to detail and making sure it looks like it could vaguely work IRL. Plasticard, kitbash, conversion, all have great opportunities but it takes skill and time to get like the greats.

How many times have you seen a ww2 tank with some ork bitz glued onto it? A toy monster truck with random plasticard and zoid guns? It looks zoggin terrible.

This is how you convert a model vehicle to orkz (that's a quad tractor under there), by the greatly missed legend that was Scarpia:


Check out his conversions here:
http://www.garbo.org/40k/index.html

Kr00za, Jamsessionein, Lemmingspawn, Grimteef... these and several others here and on The Waaagh are the ones getting it right and they stand head and shoulders above the 'zoid guns on hotweels' brigade. Watching this building slowly, seeing Ouze taking the time to go back and change things out, that will lead to him growing as a Tru Mek and bring him the prestige to stand with those luminaries.

Anyway, rant off.

Oh and yes, Ouze, you should also be posting this thread over on The Waaagh, some of those chaps have some wicked skills and can offer some good advice.





 
   
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I probably will. I found Scarpia to be a huge inspiration.

Nothing doing this weekend after all, I have the flu and it feels like my eyes are boiling in my skull.

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Yes, my post was 100% humorous, and for the same reasons, MGS. It is actually very hard to make good-looking Ork vehicles and conversions. It is one of the reasons why, in spite of my deep love for all things Orks, I have never built an Ork Army. You'd think I'd be able to bash out Orky stuff in a heartbeat, but my brain just doesn't work that way.

No, the decision to scale the big shootas back is a sound one. The shootas AS IS might work well for equipping Kans or Deff Dreds or even Stompas, so I wouldn't toss the molds out quite yet!

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I got the tubes this morning, and they're definitely a better scale. Sadly, I don't have pictures yet - I didn't get much done. I'm pretty busy with my demanding schedule of "sleep for 3 hours, be awake for three hours, the whole time being neither awake nor asleep".

The new gun body is about 60% size, and the barrel will be as well. Imposing, but not ridiculous.

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OK, I'm finally no longer sick, and I have some time off, and got a little work done.

I got the new deck guns done in a smaller scale. I think they look a lot better.



The larger ones I got slaved together into a quad mount. I still need to do a little work on the mount itself, but it's almost there.

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Here's another angle, but a more dramatic one:



Largely what I need to do is make some sort of gunner. I have an FW order in on that last DCM one for some Grots, we'll see if on of them will work. I'm considering grabbing a box of Grots to upgrade all the gunners - I had intended to use Orks but I do love Grots...

At this point, I think I have all the main weapons and stuff done. I think.. maybe it's ready to prime? Not sure if there is anything else to do on the building. Which is unfortunate, because I'm dreading painting it up.


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Extremely awesome work Mr Ouze
   
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That's looking great.

I confess to being slack and not sending out those gunners last week. They will be in the post tomorrow, promise!

I will say I think orks would not allow the grots any of the really fun jobs, so there'd be an ork driving and orks opperating all the guns, with grots feeding ammo or making fixins.

Also really looking forward to seeing what you decide to do on the front with the deffrolla/ram etc.



 
   
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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Also really looking forward to seeing what you decide to do on the front with the deffrolla/ram etc.


Me too! We both have no idea how that's going to come out.

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The fortress is looking great, and the paint job on those grots is Sweet, too. I may have missed it- did you say if you painted them yourself? If so, you may not Enjoy painting, but you're good at it
   
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 RiTides wrote:
The fortress is looking great, and the paint job on those grots is Sweet, too. I may have missed it- did you say if you painted them yourself? If so, you may not Enjoy painting, but you're good at it


Eh, not so much. Yeah, I painted them - I've never had anyone else ever paint any of my stuff because I'm too cheap. The grots are super easy to paint - I simply prime them white, then give them 2 washes of Thraka Green, then paint their tools\pants\\guns\whatever. Easy as pie.

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I found painting Grots to be so much fun. It started my kick of making HQs as a grot stand in. Just too much character in those guys
   
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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I will say I think orks would not allow the grots any of the really fun jobs, so there'd be an ork driving and orks opperating all the guns, with grots feeding ammo or making fixins.

Also really looking forward to seeing what you decide to do on the front with the deffrolla/ram etc.


Sorry to keep updating this thread with non-updates, at least not meaningful ones. But, I have been thinking about this post for a few days, and I also had an order out for both 2 ork gunners and a box regular grots on ebay (which arrived this morning) and my FW grots (which also arrived this morning).

This weekend I should be able to get some stuff done, and here is what I am working on:

1.) You are right about Orks vs Grots. There is nothing in IA8 that allows a Battle Fortress to have Grot Gunners. As such, the gunners will be the 2 orks off ebay, and whatever you sent me. It does allow grot riggers - an option I usually don't use - but in this case its going to have some grots on it anyway. Plus, now I have another 10 grots & a herder to add to my grot-mob in 40k.

2.) Additionally, I am definitely going to make a Deffrolla, since the battle fortress requires a reinforced ram or Deffrolla. Since the Deffrolla has so many more uses, I guess that's the way I'm going to go despite the lack of either on the reference model. The problem I'm having with this is I really don't know how to fit it in and I've been struggling conceptually with how to do it. If I make it the width of the cab, it's going to look too small. If I make it the width of the entire front of the vehicle, it's going to look a little too big. If I made it midway between those, it will look about right, but I also don't know where to put the arms that support it - they'd be right in the middle of the tracks. I'm kind of stuck here. I'm sort of opposed to using S-shaped arms that come out from the sides of the cab, and then go out over the width of the body, and then go forward again to join the Rolla, making the whole front of the vehicle look like one of those sticky lint-sweepers you use to get pet hair off your clothes, but not sure how else it can be done.






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I have read this all while having a bacon sarnie.... and this is more awsome than bacon !!


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