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Ok, time for an update.


While waiting for the textured styrene to arrive, I made a gun barrel using this tutorial by wazzoo2000. I don't have the styrene tubing available in the sizes he did, so I used some brass tube, and I wrapped some tamiya masking tape to fill the gap. I then created a mold of it (the tape pulled off when I demolded it, but the cast was fine) and made 4 barrels. Eventually these will go to the anti-aircraft gun on top.



I kinda wish I had gotten a picture a.) before the bottom unraveled, and b.) I dropped it on the floor and it picked up all that dog hair and dust. Oh well.

I don't own the 6th edition rulebook yet (still!) but my understanding is flyers are a big deal or something, so maybe anti-air is a good idea. If not, it's cool looking, so either way it's a win. I haven't get made the guns themselves, just the barrels.

The styrene arrived. As usual, my poor grasp of scale screwed me on this.



The leftmost one is the diamond plate I ordered, which I totally cannot use for anything because the scale is too large. The next one over is the corrugated sheets, which have the same problem. The next one over is probably OK. Finally, we have some double diamond plate I got on a whim at Hobby Lobby when getting dullcote, and was kicking myself over wasting money on it since I had the other stuff coming in the mail. Turns out that worked out really well since that's all I can use. I don't know what I'll do with the other stuff, maybe give it away to another DCM or something. Anyway, that will be the top deck, and inside of the cab, as well as random extra orky armor.

I created the springs atop the bogies by hand. The curled wire was too tight to be able to demold, and when I made another master with a less-tight curling, I realized since I only need 12 I can probably just make them in around an hour, rather than wait for a mold to cure and recast. So I did that. Here's what I have so far, when I started work this morning:





I mounted the bogies onto some styrene H girders cut to size. I also discovered that if you spray kicker near blu-tac, it melts it into a huge mess.



Side & frontal views of the tank:






I made the sides and track guards. I wanted track guards because a.) they're in the inspiration pic, and b.) it would keep me from having to make that many links. Since I wound up making a bajillion links anyway, and the links look pretty pimp, I'm wondering about omitting the track guards.



And with a Mek for size reference:



The sides reall cover up a lot of my hard work, so I plan to cut some holes in them and then haphazardly cover the holes with armor plates which reveal the bogies and stuff beaneath. Or maybe I'll just shorten them some, I haven't really decided. Also, maybe sponsons? It looks kinda land-raidery already, more than I expected, but I imagine the cab will fix that up.

I have a really hard time staying on task for this sort of thing. Either I run into some sort of technical or conceptual problem, or I get sick of seeing it and move on, or I get shiny syndrome and start building something else. In this case I'm feeling a little of both the first and last items. I don't really know exactly how to do the cab, although I'm sure I'll figure it out, I mean it's just a box essentially. The larger problem is that I have other projects that are also compelling, along with 40k ADD. Specifically, I worked a lot of hours last month. I worked Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve & Day - so for the last paycheck I have 135 hours - much of it holiday doubletime and OT. I wound up rewarding myself with a Warhound, which arrived yesterday. The urge to screw with it is enormous... I've already washed it, and it's dry. But I really want to get this done first. I'm trying, Ringo.




That's where I am so far. I'll work on the cab next.


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I think your track guard is too large, reducing it a good deal with reveal more of your hard work on those tracks. I'd be inclined to construct the tracks in their entirety first then work the guards onto them afterwards.

Since I will also be ordering some of that diamond plate, could you reveal the right side scale for me?



 
   
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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Since I will also be ordering some of that diamond plate, could you reveal the right side scale for me?


The "correct sized" scale is G-scale, 1:24. That being said it's out the outside edge of the OK envelope. Smaller would be better - O scale, maybe. Check with someone who knows what they're talking about before spending money though, because I'm winging it.

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You could build them up at the same time and develop your Ork wagon into a heavy anti titan platform.

   
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The Lucius pattern - the angled surfaces make it look "more realistic" to me, especially the upper deck. I don't care for the "mouth" on the Jackal (I think they're otherwise identical?).

Also, for MGS there's a thread here on scale that I should have read first (and you should read before you order!). I agree with the last post - G scale is definitely too big for parts. Maybe OK for terrain, I dunno.


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Yea for scale use O scale for tread ladders stairs ect. G scale works for some things and Ouze remember you arn't "building the wagon Orks are They will use whatever they find to build their toys.

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I'm off today, and up after sleeping 15 hours straight. Kind of impressed by that, to be honest. I think I caught up on sleep all the way back to Thanksgiving.

I started putting the links together.



I had a concern, here. Keep in mind my experience with Alumilite is very limited, this is really the first project I've done with it. When I was doing the rearmost tracks, the front bit slid off. Instead of them snapping, the just kinda...bent, slowly. The whole assembled run kinda has a vinyl-y feel to it. I'm going to paint the tracks separately anyway, and if they paint doesn't take the way I like it to, I might redo them with with a more reliable resin. I have all the originals, I have molds already done, it would just take a night of work while at work anyway. But I'm getting ahead of myself - they might work out just fine. No need to be all doom and gloom yet.

I also did one of the sides tonight, just about. I need to add some more wiring and such though.



I didn't do the riveting yet, that will come last, but you can see how it's going. I think I screwed up a little with that little hatch - it's pretty far forward, and there is supposed to be sort of a sponson-turret kind of thing pretty close to that. It won't take much effort to rip it out if need be - the handle's a little big anyway.

The more this progresses the more it's kinda diverging from the reference design.

Here's a frontal view of the treads, with a size reference:


I also started work on the cab. Not too sure about how I like this so far. It's vaguely Thunderhawk-y, kind of.



Going to go do random stuff now. Watch Shameless, at the very least.

Also, I found a few more of those old syringes with the caps on I used to make the big wheels! I need to take a picture of those.

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 Ouze wrote:

The more this progresses the more it's kinda diverging from the reference design.



Such is the ork way, I never thought it would look the same as the original but start to develop a mind of it's own almost as soon as you started. I think it's looking great and it will come together a great deal once it has a symmetry of both tracks fitted.

I wonder if you'll give it a deff rolla?



 
   
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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I wonder if you'll give it a deff rolla?


I also wonder. Neither of us knows yet.

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 Ouze wrote:
 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I wonder if you'll give it a deff rolla?


I also wonder. Neither of us knows yet.


Perhaps, but I can take a strong guess at yes, or a ram or something... Because it will be fun to make and because you can give it a very aggressive profile that way!



 
   
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I was looking around the house for a tube to use to make a Deffrolla today. I guess I'm no longer exactly building what was in the reference image at this point, I might as well continue my journey into I-don't-know-where-this-is-going.

I did find some really cool glyphs in my Stompa's box. I found them after I took these pictures though, so they'll be on for the next set. I also again forgot to take a picture of those stupid syringes.

I did the right side tracks, and most of the right side armor. I did agree that the track covers were too big, so I degraded them a bit and tore some chunks out. I also realized during a test fit I don't have enough links after all - funny how that worked out. My math was right when I didn't expose the top parts, which you now will be able to see. No big, I have the molds, I have resin, I'll just cast up some more. Maybe a dozen more should do it or so.

I also used up just about every single wheel I cast, even though I thought I had extras. I used a bunch of them as spacers for my now-wider tracks. I also am wondering if maybe I need more wheels in the front of the tracks. I need to look at some tank pictures this week and decide. I'd love to make one of those um, tank wheel gear things


a tank wheel gear thing

yeah, that thing - but I don't know how. My track links are pretty irregular so it might not look good even if I did make one.

Ok, so here are the images.

Right side tracks:



As you can see, I've tried taking pictures atop a darker surface. The Alumilite is so blinding white, and the board I was using was very pale, so the lack of contrast made it hard to see details.


like so

Still hard to see specific details, so that will have to wait until they're primed. The fact I'm a totally awful photographer has not helped any. I bought a super fancy camera a few months back; and as it turns out, it's a poor carpenter who blames his tools. My pictures are somewhat better - reading this guide helped more then upgrading the camera - but still fairly bad. Eh. Much like my painting, I got it to a level that was good enough and haven't tried to improve it more.


Frontal view of the tracks:




Right side armor\track cover. Not yet done.



Jesus H Christ. In the middle of posting these images, I just heard this loud-ass flapping. I peeked out the window and there was a damn hawk in my koi pond, big as hell, flapping around wildly; enjoying a bath (and no doubt crapping in it). I just had to yell at him until he left. There's a net over the pond right now since the leaves started falling - do hawks fish? I don't even know. I have to look into that.

Um.

Ok, so. Size reference with a Predator.




So, here is where I am on cabs. Here's the one I've been building:



Here's a premade, which is cheating - but it does look good...




Now I'm just being stupid:

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That last one! That one!

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Stick w/ the scratch. You're very skilled and it'll keep the overall scheme more genuine. Plus once it is done you can claim it as 100% yours. I've only built a few 100% scratch items in the last few years and the pride I have for them is equal to the best work I've done on my pre-fab stuff.

Enjoying the progress and looking forward to seeing more.


 
   
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I agree with the scratch one, but I honestly like the look of the last one. I think it would look cool if you could go all Big Rig on it, and attach something so the cockpit can turn on an axis like a Semi.

Just me though, keep up the good work!

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 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Stick w/ the scratch. You're very skilled and it'll keep the overall scheme more genuine. Plus once it is done you can claim it as 100% yours.


IDK about the "very skilled" part - I think anyone with a box cutter, styrene, resin and silicone can pull this off - but the rest of what you said speaks to me. I do like the idea of it being totally build and designed by me, with the only non-scratchbuild bits being some glyphs and such. Well, maybe "design" isn't the right word to use since I'm making this up as I go along.

Besides, I might need that Stormraven. I heard rumors on the internets you can make a Thunderhawk Gunship with 2 Stormravens, and I have a boxed Stormraven plus most of another one (which is what was pictured) that I got on a super lucky auction from Spikeybits for like $8. I don't care much for Marines but I like building stuff. So, maybe someday.

I haven't gotten any real progress on this done since the last post, as I'm at work for the next few days, but I'm trying to think of what to do with it this weekend. I need to build the Flakk gun up, and finish the cab (kab?) and start deciding what I'm going to do with the space on top. It was going to be like the reference design, but you know what else is sorta cool? Evil Eye in the Sky. I'm still leaning like 90% towards battle fortress but I also like the idea of somehow launching Deffkoptas off it.

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Ok, I got a little bit of work done today. Not as much as I wanted to, but I had to fix my oven and that took up a big chunk of today's limited free time, which also involved a lot of "sleeping" and "dicking around on the internet".

Here's an offtopic cool story bro:
Spoiler:
My oven every so often won't light. The culprit is virtually always a piece called an Igniter (aka glow bar). On modern ovens, they don't have pilot lights. They have a little valve made of 2 different metals, which is normally flipped close, sealing the gas. When you turn it on, current runs to the igniter, which is a ceramic rod with a filament of carborundum wrapped around it.



No, that's, uh, something else.

Anyway when you apply current to the igniter, it heats the carborundum until it's red hot. That makes the bimetal valve flip open, which releases the gas, which ignites, and the stove turns on (this also applies to gas dryers). Replacing this is sort of trivial - you need an igniter (around $30) and glass tape and about an hour or so (a soldering iron and flux is optional but useful for doing a good job). If you call for service, it might take a week for the tech to show and it will be like $150, so this is something you may want to try yourself. So, that's what I did with today, since the replacement igniter and high temp tape arrived - took out the botton plates in the oven, unscrewed the gas bar, cut the leads, soldering the new one on, tested it, wrapped it up with high temp tape, screwed it all together, done.

After that was done, I went to my computer. I decided that I should order another igniter for next time, so I can fix it right away instead of not being able to use the oven for however long. So, I did that.

I think that was the most responsible, adult thing I've ever done.




So, here's what I got done today after that. These pictures kinda suck, I took them with my cell phone as I was pinched for time and was charging the batteries in my camera that's a lie, i forgot to bring it upstairs and I was too lazy to go back downstairs and get it.

I made a few generic armor plates and then made a mold of them.


I probably should have done that, uh, significantly earlier into this build as a timesaver. I intend to use these for the maybe-Deffrolla. I'm going to cast them with my Tap plastics resin, which has a fairly long working time. When they're soft, mid-Jolly-Rancher consistency, I'll demold them and apply them to the Deffrolla. They'll finish curing with the curved shape I need. I did that for my Blood Raven Terminator Storm Shields and it worked OK.

I also finished the track links, and started working on a top deck:



The left side droops a lot more than the right does. I'm not sure that's undesirable.

I glued on the side armor plates with a single drop of glue for you to see where I am with it as a whole:



You can see where you will be able to see the tracks through the hole in the track cover here:



Left side:



Left side, damaged track cover detail:



I have a needle-tipped squeeze bottle coming in the morning, as well as some more super thin CA glue. So I might start working on studding the armor plates. That should provide a riveting update to this story.

Because I'll be gluing on rivets. Get it? Riveting?

Also, I found those some of those old syringes and took a picture of them. Unfortunately, it looks like I took the picture mid-epileptic fit. I updated them offsite so Kid Kyoto didn't rightfully delete the image like the garbage it is. So again, taking a picture of these for the first post is on the task list. For now, though, behold:



I got these from a vet supply guy on Amazon. If you work with resin, these are ideal for dispensing it in exact amounts for small pulls. You can also use regular syringes if you like dealing with needles but I do not. The covers for those are what the bigger wheels are made of.





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I have some covers from my dads insulin syringes they are smaller but this gives me ideas for my new project.

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Ok, I got some more work done this weekend on this, as opposed to the thing I was supposed to be doing this weekend - fixing my bathroom floor.

I started building up the midlevel walls:





The door, glyphs are and spikey bits are from the Stompa kit I got for Christmas of 2009 and still haven't finished. Shameful. I wound up getting more glyphs on ebay, as I'm going through a lot of them. Good size for vehicles.

other side, more of the same, except with a Rhino door.

After this I started working on the top deck, and realized that I wouldn't be able to paint anything below it if I enclosed it. So, I carved out a spot for the rails of the underside of the top deck in the support girders and build from there. It doesn't wiggle around when working on it, but comes off easily.



The mounts for the shootas are just placeholders of course, I need to make some better ones. I haven't do so yet because I'm not sure which weapons I want to put there, and also because I don't have enough gunners - I need to convert some boyz, though I posted a thread in the DCM swap shop looking for Battlewagon gunners, if anyones reading this and has spares. I'm going with Big Shootas since I like how they look but might replace them with Rokkits, since I can make my own easily, they look good, and work well in game (that's the last thing I consider, though). I also added a boarding plank, because I like how it looks. I might add another one to the other side, too. Pretty sure I have some left over from my Kans and Dreads.



The open spot at the front is for the Supa Kannon. I got one when they first came out, primed it black, and then realized I need a solid vehicle to mount it on. So I put it in a box and misplaced it.

You'd be amazed at how often the events in that last sentence happen.

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My work week starts in the morning, so this is the last update for a few days.

I started working on the cab a little more. I did the hatch to allow access to the interior here, and also added an emergency hatch in the roof. I should probably add a ladder or something to that, too.



The whole instrument panel assembly slides out so I can paint it.




Frontal view of the cab:



And, I found the Supa Kannon today (in a box called "Battlewagon", because I meant to at some point order a Battlewagon for it, which totally makes sense I guess). It looks like it just about fits, though I will need to work on the walls a little.



The guns up top are just placeholders. I think Big Shootas might be a little too small, I might upgrade them a little - make the barrels a little longer, if nothing else. I also need to get the Flakk gun done and figure out where that's going, space-wise.

I think it's coming along pretty well so far, all in all.

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Well, in this case an "emergency" being a good proppa scrap breaking out in front of the ride, with shiny bitz for the taking - need to get there before those light-fingered grots take all the good gubbins.

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