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 Manchu wrote:
Their working conditions aren't the issue; the rules of procedure they follow is -- and we know nothing about it.

Their rules of procedure are quite simple: whatever they want.

Angry Marines. It's the only way to be sure.

Marines Malevolent hands down, the flesh tearers suffer basically from a mental disorder, the Malevolent not only have total lack of regard for life but pretty much hate it, seeing all imperial citizens as borderline guilty of treason, just some deserving death more than others.

I voted Carcharodons. When I first read about them, they instantly became one of my favorites. Their entry into the Badab War and subsequent execution of the war was really cool imho. Sure there are the Flesh Tearers but their savagery just seems more wanton and mindless. For me, in the 40K Millennium, Imperial forces prone to savagery do so consciously and without remorse but also fight intelligently. For me, the fact that the Carcharodons operate in the dark space above the galaxy, makes their savagery on the battlefield very real and calculated as a result of whatever they regularly encounter in their area of operations above the galaxy.

My vote went to The Minotaurs, they redefine Anger and Awesome all in Power Armour shaped little packets......

Flesh Tearer's hands down. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD G- ..... EMPEROR!!!!

Angry marines.

Always angry, all the time.

 Ninjacommando wrote:
Angry marines.

Always angry, all the time.

NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!

Angry Marines don't count. If we're going to count non-existent chapters then how about we just make one up called the "Most Savage Loyalists" and boom there's the clear answer.

Manchu, don't be silly.

Ascalam
Gargantuan Gargant

Waagh Grabwotz : 83100 and climbing

Im Sorry im new and this is probably a stupid question but do you mean to say you have 83 thousand points worth of orks....?


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Ascalam
Gargantuan Gargant

Waagh Grabwotz : 83100 and climbing

Im Sorry im new and this is probably a stupid question but do you mean to say you have 83 thousand points worth of orks....?

Probably Space Wolves, they seem a bit radical.

Flesh Tearers, they literally tear flesh, they like it so much they named themselves that.

Sw can be the most Savage when they want to be,

Knights of Blood are on the same scale as Flesh Tearers IMO.

Carcharodons, Space Wolves and Minotaurs basically use controlled aggression and savagery as a tactic right? Flesh tearers are more like borderline berserkers, which kinda makes it more reasonable why they're top on the polls even when i added the late

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I voted Carcharodons myself

I would have to say the Space Wolves are a good consideration due to their role as described in the HH novels. They are the Emperor's big stick for dealing with unruly legions and took out an entire home world of a legion steeped in the powers of the mystic chaos. It was the Sons of Russ sent out to the different legions to dispatch disloyal Primarchs if the need should arise and only a squad at that. Had Horus not made them unavailable to a large extent, I'm sure that it would be these "Hounds of War" to met out the punishment to Horus had things progressed differently. It explains why they had to be dealt with so carefully in the outset of the Heresy. Then there is the Wulfen...

Knights of Blood are currently excommunicae traitoris due to their excessive savagery. Gabriel Seth has actually patched up the Flesh Tearer image recently by ensuring they avoid taking to the battlefield alongside allies and reducing collateral damage. They are making a real effort to avoid the same fate of the KoB this in itself lends them civilised points. The Blood Drinkers are pretty nuts as they have a lot of vampiric ritual.

Thing is though I completely disagree with the whole "BA successors are one step from damnation" viewpoint. I don't think that the KoB have fallen to chaos after all they returned to the Baal system when they heard it was threatened by the nids and Kha'Bandas invasion. They may be berserk mutters but chaos they ain't.

I gues the coin toss come down between flesh tearers and chaharadons.

Space Wolves are savage yes, but it is a controlled savagnes they unleash. They bleak compared to the fleash tearers. In the same token the minotaur are the token "bad cop" space marines (they have favoret enemies loyal space marines in the badab war) but they also loose out to their big brothers the chacaradons.

While the flesh tearers are berserkers shredding the opponent in a bloddy mellee it is nothing compared to the chacharadons during the badab war. The flesh tearers do not kill every last one of the opponents, even the civilians in the fluff. The chacharadons refuse to listen to orders once unleaches like ashark that has smelled blood, They even get the rage special rule once they have killed an opposing unit.

The only reason flesh tearers are getting so many votes is that the badab war books have not been read by as many as have read about the flesh tearers. So the tearers winn by good PR, but the throne should belong to the chacaradons. You do not belive me? Read up on them in the badab war.

I say Flesh Tearers, they are basically the Red Thirst and Black Rage incarnate. They lose so many members to these that there's only about 12 of them left now. They're more likely to eat your face at the end of the mission than shake your hand and say "Job well done."
Second goes to Minotaurs, just because they like go out at full strength and rip apart everything in sight. Gang of bastards the lot of them though.

Sir Samuel Buca, while you are right about the miniotaurs to go full streangth and rip everything apart they do not have anything in the chacharadons who will do so and more. Also, while the flesh tearers will eat your face off the chahcaradons will hunt down all your friends and kill them in a most grusome fassion.

 Niiai wrote:
Sir Samuel Buca, while you are right about the miniotaurs to go full streangth and rip everything apart they do not have anything in the chacharadons who will do so and more. Also, while the flesh tearers will eat your face off the chahcaradons will hunt down all your friends and kill them in a most gruesome fassion.

Its fashion.

On topic : I agree with Sir Samuel

I say Carcharodons, because as barbaric as other chapters can be, they can behave themselves enough to live inside the bounds of the Imperium. Carcharodons are out in the extragalactic void for a reason.

I think Flesh Tearers...

...are only winning because they've been fleshed out a lot. Carcharodons haven't, there's so little info on them. But based on what we do know about the Carcharodons, I think they are the most savage.

Charcarodons are pretty badass. And mean. And everything. Atleast the other chapter has something that resembles civilized behavior.

I think flesh tearers and Carcharodons would be on par with each other, would actually help though if we knew more about the latter chapter though

All that we know of the Carcharodons regarding this matter is that they were the most savage of the Chapters fighting the Badab War. Do you think that's a high standard or a low one? At least one SoB commander, meanwhile, considered the Flesh Tearers savage as compared to Orks.

During the Tranquility Campaign, the Fire Angels got so cheesed off at the Carcharodons for their methods of war, methods involving genocide, that blood was "shed between them in sporadic skirmishes" -IA 10.

That's still the Badab War ...

That's some colour into the standard you were asking about. And given the weapons, and names of said weapons, of their chapter master, I'd think the Carcharodons are safe in the bloodthirsty department, so I doubt it's like they were the most bloodthirsty people in a war full of gentlemen.