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And here is the missile pod unit of death

Farsight - 165pts
Commander - 147pts
- Drone controller, 2 missile pods, 2 missile drones
7 Body guard - 602pts
14 missile pods, 14 missile drones.

All the drones fire at BS5

If you really wanted you can give the commander another support and signature system, and each body guard can take 1 more support and signature system, including the 1 s10 ap1 attack gauntlet.

7 donkey punches? did crisis just become the ultimate melee unit lmao

 Nafarious wrote:
please post some info about the flier. I am still on the fence about getting that.

Also do you have to take a devilfish to take path finders still?

Nope, its optional

as for the fliers both are 11 10 10 bs3

The sunshark is 160pts
-pulse bomb generator, missile pod, networked marker light, two seeker missiles, 2 interceptor drones

Interceptor drones are basically turbo boosting jetbikes with skyfire, interceptor and a twin linked ion rifle ( range 30"S7 ap4 rapid fire) only bs 2. Pulse bombs are S5 ap5 large blast and it can keep making bombs for following turn on a 2+

The Razorshark is 145pts
-Burstcannon, quad Ion cannon range 30 S7 ap4 heavy 4 or S8 ap4 gets hot large blast, two seeker missiles and can exchange its burst cannon for a missile pod




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Wolfnid420 wrote:
7 donkey punches? did crisis just become the ultimate melee unit lmao

You sacrifice all your attacks for 1 s10 ap1 attack, and signature systems are 1 per army. Damn, I wanted to make the Ermagerd gauntlet squad...

Unfortunately, I think Drone Controller only works for Gun/Marker/Shield drones. Missile Drones won't fire at BS 5 (would be awesome if they could).

I have another question. What are the "two equalizers" that the Ethereal can take? Any information on them?

Sorry, a further question (last one, most likely!). You mentioned that Kroot "pulse rounds" also benefit from the Ethereal's +1 shot buff. Does that include the sniper rounds (2 sniper shots per model at 12")?

How many of the tau ranged weapon profiles have changed?

I read that the burst cannon has an extra shot, and that fusion blasters got an exta 6" in range.

Anything else?

When you read the fluff, tell me how many Avatars Of Khaine were harmed in the making of this codex?

 BarBoBot wrote:
How many of the tau ranged weapon profiles have changed?

I read that the burst cannon has an extra shot, and that fusion blasters got an exta 6" in range.

Anything else?

burst cannons are indeed 4 shots, and fusion blasters are 18", missile pods are 36" and pulse carbines are assault 2 pinning


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Siphen wrote:
Unfortunately, I think Drone Controller only works for Gun/Marker/Shield drones. Missile Drones won't fire at BS 5 (would be awesome if they could).

I have another question. What are the "two equalizers" that the Ethereal can take? Any information on them?

Sorry, a further question (last one, most likely!). You mentioned that Kroot "pulse rounds" also benefit from the Ethereal's +1 shot buff. Does that include the sniper rounds (2 sniper shots per model at 12")?

Yeah someone pointed that out, knew it was too good to be true

equalizers are S user ap4 melee weapons, honour blades are S+2 ap - twohanded.

And I do not believe so, the kroot rifle has Pulse and sniper rounds, and the ethereal rule specifically states pulse

You are a wonderful person.

1) Does Darkstrider take up an HQ slot? Or is he an HQ choice that doesn't take up space. Same with the Fireblade.

2) Shadowsun. Everything possible about Shadowsun. (split fire, warlord abilities, new goodies)

3) Do stealth suits still cost 30 points and now only get stealth?

4) What does the recon drone do for us?

Stats of all the new weapons would be much appreciated. Thank you.

I am curious about the ion guns and rail rifles somewhat.

Stat-line of the pathfinders would also be nice.

 DakkaHammer wrote:
You are a wonderful person.

1) Does Darkstrider take up an HQ slot? Or is he an HQ choice that doesn't take up space. Same with the Fireblade.

2) Shadowsun. Everything possible about Shadowsun. (split fire, warlord abilities, new goodies)

3) Do stealth suits still cost 30 points and now only get stealth?

4) What does the recon drone do for us?

1) Yup HQ choice

2) 3++ shield drones, stealth shrouded, the jetpack boosty trait, infiltrate, she can fire at 2 targets, makes stealth suits sworn protectors (auto pass Look out sir!) Command drone picks one friendly unit within 12" and they reroll all 1s to hit for shooting til end of phase.

3)30pts, stealth and shrouding, thats a 4+ cover all the time in the open.

4)The drones have fancy names for carrying a support system, Recon drones have Homing beacon, positional relay and a burst cannon


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 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Stats of all the new weapons would be much appreciated. Thank you.

I am curious about the ion guns and rail rifles somewhat.

Stat-line of the pathfinders would also be nice.

Ion rifles are as follows;
range 30 standard S7 ap4 rapid fire over charged is S8 ap4 heavy 1 gets hot blast

Ion cannons are range 60 standard S7 ap3 heavy 3, Overcharged S8 ap3 Largeblast gets hot.

The others Ive already posted.

Ravenous D, you are a good man.

I do try

Here's a sample list I made up, its pretty good IMO.

HQ
Fire cadre - 60pts

ELITES
3 Crisis suits - 165pts
-advanced targeting system, 3 plasma rifles, 2 missile pods, 1 fusion gun

6 Stealth suits -205pts
- 2 Fusion guns, shas'vre with target lock and markerlight

Riptide - 185
-Ion Accelerator

TROOPS
9 Firewarriors - 90pts
-Bonded

2 x10 Firewarriors - 110pts (220pts)
-bonded, shas'vre

3 x Devilfish - 115pts (345pts)
- SMS, disruption pods, point defence targeting relay

HEAVY
2 x2 Broadsides - 170pts (340pts)
- High Yield Missiles, Velocity tracker

Hammerhead - 140pts
-SMS, disruption pods

FORTIFICATIONS
Aegis defence line - 100pts
-quadgun

TOTAL: 1850pts

I like that list! Needs more markerlights, but I like it!

Here's another one for you: What does the Guided rule on SMS do?

It seems a little weird that the TL Burst Cannon and TL Smart Missile System is a free exchange on the Hammerhead...the stats on the SMS are much better (longer range, ignores cover).

Not sure if anyone asked yet, but what is a High Yield Missile Launcher?

its range 36 S7 ap4 heavy 4

Broadsides can carry them twin linked, along with selective skyfire (velocity tracker), making them scary as hell to fliers.

Siphen wrote:
I like that list! Needs more markerlights, but I like it!

Here's another one for you: What does the Guided rule on SMS do?

It seems a little weird that the TL Burst Cannon and TL Smart Missile System is a free exchange on the Hammerhead...the stats on the SMS are much better (longer range, ignores cover).

the burst cannons can be used for supporting fire, though.

Siphen wrote:
I like that list! Needs more markerlights, but I like it!

Here's another one for you: What does the Guided rule on SMS do?

It seems a little weird that the TL Burst Cannon and TL Smart Missile System is a free exchange on the Hammerhead...the stats on the SMS are much better (longer range, ignores cover).

Marker drones are 12pts each and nearly every suit can take 2, its just the points.

Homing is Ignore LOS,


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 Rainyday wrote:

Siphen wrote:
I like that list! Needs more markerlights, but I like it!

Here's another one for you: What does the Guided rule on SMS do?

It seems a little weird that the TL Burst Cannon and TL Smart Missile System is a free exchange on the Hammerhead...the stats on the SMS are much better (longer range, ignores cover).

the burst cannons can be used for supporting fire, though.

Anything S5 and under can overwatch with Targeting relay, or anything if you have Longstrike.

Can you write a 1,000 point list please.

 Ravenous D wrote:
its range 36 S7 ap4 heavy 4

Broadsides can carry them twin linked, along with selective skyfire (velocity tracker), making them scary as hell to fliers.

Isn't that the Smart Missile System?

Shadowsun (BTW she isnt "bulky" so can be transported in a devilfish)

3 x 10 fire warriors
-bonded

3 x devilish
-sms, disruption pod, targeting relay

2 Missile sides
- 4 missile drones, velocity tracker

Total: 998pts


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
its range 36 S7 ap4 heavy 4

Broadsides can carry them twin linked, along with selective skyfire (velocity tracker), making them scary as hell to fliers.

Isn't that the Smart Missile System?

Smart missile is range 30 S5 ap5 heavy 4 homing, ignores cover.

Thanks, that is actually close to what I planned on. Maybe a bit more gunline with pathfinders instead of devilfish.

But I plan on buying 2 broadsides and a path finder unit. Tomorrow.


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I will probably also not take shadowsun because I don't have one.


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Also last question, why no pathfinders in any of your lists. Are they still sort of useless if you aren't running gun line armies. Or is it just because of personal preference.

 Ravenous D wrote:
I do try

Here's a sample list I made up, its pretty good IMO.

HQ
Fire cadre - 60pts

ELITES
3 Crisis suits - 165pts
-advanced targeting system, 3 plasma rifles, 2 missile pods, 1 fusion gun

6 Stealth suits -205pts
- 2 Fusion guns, shas'vre with target lock and markerlight

Riptide - 185
-Ion Accelerator

TROOPS
9 Firewarriors - 90pts
-Bonded

2 x10 Firewarriors - 110pts (220pts)
-bonded, shas'vre

3 x Devilfish - 115pts (345pts)
- SMS, disruption pods, point defence targeting relay

HEAVY
2 x2 Broadsides - 170pts (340pts)
- High Yield Missiles, Velocity tracker

Hammerhead - 140pts
-SMS, disruption pods

FORTIFICATIONS
Aegis defence line - 100pts
-quadgun

TOTAL: 1850pts

Up to the Riptide, looks not much different from what Tau had before.

The stealth suits are getting major points from me in this book, the stealth shrouding and infiltrate make them really difficult to kill. And with Shadowsun they boost extra fast.

Reminds me of when Warpspiders were good *tear*

 Ravenous D wrote:
The stealth suits are getting major points from me in this book, the stealth shrouding and infiltrate make them really difficult to kill.

Hmh? To me they look exactly the same as in the old book, except Burst Cannon is bit better. And obviously they can carry better Drones if they want.

Are there any added/new psychic defenses in the book?

Or will Tzeentch Daemons still continue to eat Tau for lunch?!

 Ravenous D wrote:
Shadowsun (BTW she isnt "bulky" so can be transported in a devilfish)

3 x 10 fire warriors
-bonded

3 x devilish
-sms, disruption pod, targeting relay

2 Missile sides
- 4 missile drones, velocity tracker

Total: 998pts


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
its range 36 S7 ap4 heavy 4

Broadsides can carry them twin linked, along with selective skyfire (velocity tracker), making them scary as hell to fliers.

Isn't that the Smart Missile System?

Smart missile is range 30 S5 ap5 heavy 4 homing, ignores cover.

That's odd. Wasn't it S7 AP4 before? What is homing?

Homing allows you to shoot without LOS.

Are there any restrictions on how many ion rifles/ rail rifles pathfinders can take?


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Homing allows you to shoot without LOS.

Are there any restrictions on how many ion rifles/ rail rifles pathfinders can take?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

That's odd. Wasn't it S7 AP4 before? What is homing?

That's missile pods, not smart missiles. And homing is covered elsewhere in the post.

 psychadelicmime wrote:
Homing allows you to shoot without LOS.

Are there any restrictions on how many ion rifles/ rail rifles pathfinders can take?

Up to three can take Ion or rail rifles.


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Experiment 626 wrote:
Are there any added/new psychic defenses in the book?

Or will Tzeentch Daemons still continue to eat Tau for lunch?!

None what so ever, all deny the witch and Farseer allies

(1) hammerheads. are they still bs4?

(2) what are our options for longe range dakka outside of hammerhead railguns? (what always annoyed me was how all our heavy stuff was confined to HS. is this still the case, or are there viable, and medium ranged heavy dakka weapons outside HS now?)

(3) how do markerlights function in this dex - ie how do they work?