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Not a lot of the independents then

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Not a lot of the independents then

Yeah, it's a Camarilla & Anarch game mainly. The mods will give you a lot of other options.

Anarch? I'm familiar with the Camarilla, Sabbat and Independants from the RPG books

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Anarch? I'm familiar with the Camarilla, Sabbat and Independants from the RPG books

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Anarch
http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Anarch_Revolt

 Bromsy wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Anarch? I'm familiar with the Camarilla, Sabbat and Independants from the RPG books

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Anarch
http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Anarch_Revolt

Thanks for those links. Was that in the main sourcebook, or was it a later supplement?

0.o Weren't the Anarchs destroyed by the Cathyans before the game takes place? I.e. like my poor Ravnos all eating each other during the Final Nights.

They lost the Anarch Free State, but they where not destroyed, a hell of a lot of them ended up on the Cathayan side, while others joined the Camarilla. Although a good proportion headed back into the greater US and beyond though.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
0.o Weren't the Anarchs destroyed by the Cathyans before the game takes place? I.e. like my poor Ravnos all eating each other during the Final Nights.

Nope. You got a few things mixed up.

a) Ravnos weren't Anarchs, they were Independants. One's a faction, the other more or less the lack of faction.
b) The Indian Ravnos were at war with a sub-faction of Cathayans, and that since forever.
c) The Anarchs of L.A. were actually allied with the Cathayans as of 1999, in an effort to keep the city from the Sabbat.
d) Ravnos sucks Had it been Ennoia fighting those Bodhisattvas, the Time of Judgement would have started 4 years earlier.

The alliance lasted until 2003 when the Kuei-jin forced the Anarchs out of a few key places in L.A, but didn't bother to consolidate. The Camarilla steps in and puts Lacroix in charge of running the city, of which he will do a very piss-poor job. With what is revealed in the game, it's possible that Lacroix actually arranged the Kuei-jin betrayal of the Anarchs in order to sweep in.

The game story is actually considered cannon, making you the most bad-ass neonate ever.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

d) Ravnos sucks Had it been Ennoia fighting those Bodhisattvas, the Time of Judgement would have started 4 years earlier.

Zapathasura greased the 3 Bodhisattvas, several entire local tribes of lupines and got finally toasted by the Technocracy dropping the power of spirit nukes and turning the power of 4 suns focused on the point he was occupying.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Zapathasura greased the 3 Bodhisattvas, several entire local tribes of lupines and got finally toasted by the Technocracy dropping the power of spirit nukes and turning the power of 4 suns focused on the point he was occupying.

He did, and died in the process. He was the Loki of the WoD, now imagine how that would've played out if it was She-Thor in his place.

Ennoia would've wiped out the three bodhisattvas's with the back of her hand. Hell, the whole thing would not have started in the first place since she wouldn't throw a sissy fit over mass embrace, as it was already happening with her clan's antitribu.

But by the same token if it was Ennoia there wouldn't have been the whole "week of nightmares" thing.

Ennoia was too busy being rock, has been rock for a long time and so enjoyed being rock that she will stay being rock forever...

'sides, Ventru won the game, by staying out of it until it was all over.

He came back from the dead after the apocalypse and was the last vampire left.

Oh yeah I know that the Ravnos weren't Anarchs, I was just commenting that a few of the clans took big hits for some reason. I just had a thing for them because they were a clan of gypsies... / the Indian clan in the newer editions. =)

I find that there's too much retconning and rehashing going on with the series to keep a grasp on what's consistent with the newest stuff. Then again, pick a Malkavian and it doesn't matter. You can get away with openly commenting on all the changes in character and get away with it (bar bothering your fellow players that is).

I just try to ignore the new world of darkness...

Why is there no OWoD thread in the DCM section?

Because you haven't made one yet. =P

You all just made my brain shut off

Just lots of spoilers for the old world of darkness tabletop game.

Bottom line is, don't play malkavian or nosferatu first time and ALWAYS use the patch.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
Bottom line is, don't play malkavian

Pft, MALKAVAIAN 4 LYFE! (though being a table top V:tM gamer might have helped me...)

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
or nosferatu first time and ALWAYS use the patch.

This part is true though.

Don't get me wrong, Malkavians are by far my favourite... Just not for a first time player.

I guess if you have no idea what to expect from a Malkavian (i.e., have never played the table top version of the game) I can agree. I played a Malkavian on my first playthrough of Bloodlines though, and I had a blast. Didn't have too much trouble deciphering what she was trying to say and man... those Malkavian moments just made the game.

"In other news, there was a large explosion at the (spoiler redacted) and police are sure it was YOU."

Im REALLY having to tell myself not to play as a Nosferatu. I dunno why, but I just want to rip people to shreds and be the bad guy of the bad guys

 KingCracker wrote:
Im REALLY having to tell myself not to play as a Nosferatu. I dunno why, but I just want to rip people to shreds and be the bad guy of the bad guys

That's kinda the opposite of what Nosferatu do... They are the sneaky hacker clan.

The closest you get to ripping people to shred would be a melee focussed Gangrel, Brujah or Malkavian I suppose.

^^ Yeah, just because everyone wants to claw their eyes out/ run in terror, doesn't mean that a Nosferatu's particular better than any of the other clans. Playing a Nosferatu really changes the game (in the hub areas that is, where you'll be spending a lot of your time), i.e. sure you may be a post human monster, but I wouldn't recommend telling the locals about it. One vampire against an entire city hub doesn't go down too well (well until you find a flame thrower that is).

Pissing off the cops is something to avoid in general really. Not so much that they're hard to kill, but they're just damn annoying to get rid of. Then again, there is a mission dedicated to either stealthing your way around them or just tearing them apart.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Im REALLY having to tell myself not to play as a Nosferatu. I dunno why, but I just want to rip people to shreds and be the bad guy of the bad guys

That's kinda the opposite of what Nosferatu do... They are the sneaky hacker clan.

The closest you get to ripping people to shred would be a melee focussed Gangrel, Brujah or Malkavian I suppose.

OOooOOOoo sneaky you say? Those are typically my fav character types to go with anyways! Dammit Corpses......you arnt helping

Play a Brujah first if you want melee. Potence and Celerity that bad boy up.

Play a Nossie afterward, because it's a different game and you will not experience entire storylines as a Nossie

...And remember to help the girl in the hospital in Santa Monica... Give her your blood to heal...

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Her sister's the more attractive one.

Agreed.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

...And remember to help the girl in the hospital in Santa Monica... Give her your blood to heal...

I would rather take the thin blood seer from below the pier.

Wait, you can take the thin blood seer?

No. Pity, she's cute and damn useful.

The Hospital chick gives you the best armor in the game, that's pretty useful.

A pity that despite its name though (I expected a suit of riot armour or at least a vest), its visually identical to the second best outfit in the game. For the effort you need to go to get it I expected more. Then again, developement issues.

Does anything come of the thin bloods? I know that the seer spells out the plot of the game the first time you meet her (though in such a way that you'd have to have completed it first, same as with the Malkavian's PC's dialogue), but I can't recall ever doing anything with them after that. Its been a while since I played, but they seemed to allude to a bigger involvement. If not then I guess they were just there to tell non-rpg players about how everything's apparently falling apart and the Final Nights. =P