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So Ive heard from many places, numerous times that this game is a lot of fun. So I figured what the hell, and ordered a copy. So I should be getting it in a few days time. What should I expect from this game? Any pointers or tips? I watched a few gameplays of it on youtube and it seems like a really cool game. So I guess Im just asking for a general chat about the game.
My only compailt is that multimonitor doesn't work.
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
Its not a shooting game, though it becomes one near the end due to lack of development time. Unless your character is built like a tank you should try and stealth your way about as much as possible. Try and take down enemies a few at a time. As you progress they become less of a problem and you can slap about pretty much anything, but at the start you should try and be wary of combat a little.
Blood's easy to come by. In the hub areas all you need to do is wait till someone goes into a back alley for a piss and jump them. You can take people down to a couple of units of blood without killing them without too much effort. Try and not kill people through drinking them though, as its a silly way to lose humanity.
Stay away from the Nosferatu for your first time. They've got numerous debuffs towards conversation with npcs and can't go about the surface world without the use of the sewers, thus its a bit of a bother to get anywhere. They are better at combat though. I'd recommend going for a character that's invested into persuasion. However they can be difficult to play as most of the story missions involve large amounts of combat against a lot more enemies than you would encounter in the side missions. So it may be an alternative to build for combat and try and wing your way through the persuasion checks if you aren't caring too much about unlocking everything/ getting the bonus rewards etc.
Download the unofficial patched version too. Similar to KOTOR 2 and other games, there's a lot dummied out. Seeing as its your first time playing though, you may or may not need to read the patch notes to see what's different from the original game.
Oh, and don't trust anyone. The only people who's objectives you can be sure of are the anarchists, and that's just because they don't have any. =)
I had a blast with the game, although it is sadly in the pile of "got far but never finished it". I played a Malkavian, which is the clan of insane vampires and it actually makes a difference in the way that people respond to you. Might not be the greatest for a first run though, as it also makes it hard to understand what YOU are saying!
Be prepared to do some work to get it running. The steam version is just broken.
Download the unofficial patch like Wyrmalla said. That'll fix the memory error IIRC (if that happens with the CD version) as well as restore some content. Also, it'll look terrible without the HD mod so you might want to get that too.
As for the game itself, don't bother too much with guns. They're useless vs. vamps. But theres a couple of sections of the game with lots of armed humans you'll need to use a gun occasionally.
Don't neglect skills like computers, lockpicking and persuasion. They'll help you with the side missions, and to experience more of the game.
Edit: failed to read OP properly. d'oh.
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Heh thats funny. See this is the response Ive been hearing from people that have played it. Its not perfect, but its a great game to play anyways. Now Im even more excited
OK something I forgot to ask, is there a problem patching to windows7?
KingCracker wrote: Heh thats funny. See this is the response Ive been hearing from people that have played it. Its not perfect, but its a great game to play anyways. Now Im even more excited
OK something I forgot to ask, is there a problem patching to windows7?
I didn't have any problems patching it in w7 but I have steam version and I didn't even try playing without unofficial patches.
Also if you like the game I also recommend playing Alpha Protocol. While it's not a vampire game it is similiar style game.
Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
I didn't have issues with windows, but they can crop up (ie I think it may have widescreen issues on larger monitors, but there's a patch of that too). The patch is there to add in dummied out content (ie fixing unfinished quest chains, adding in items, etc).
OK cool then. I have KOTOR 1&2 on my PC, and at first, they were a little irritating to patch over to windows. Took a few tries to get them to finally work. So yea hope it works out well enough.
I had very few problems with the unpatched game. If you found that was crashing constantly then I'm guessing you either didn't have the patch or your there was incompatibilities with your system.
With older games you have to persevere with the bugs. Searching the error on google usually gives you a response as to how to fix it (seeing as other would probably have gotten the same issue in the x amount of years since the game was released). They weren't made for current computers, so its to be expected that they'll not be completely bug free when you play them. In Bloodline's case the game was rushed through its late development due to financial issues, with the last patch being created by the developers after they had lost their jobs.
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It is among my most favorite games. It has a small but fairly dedicated community which has done a lot for it. I recommend the Camarilla mod. It alters the disciplines in what I think is a positive way, and gives you a constant loss of blood, so you actually have to seek out people to drink from. Makes it a lot more immersive.
Although for your first playthrough you may want to just get the community patches and go vanilla for the full experience.
The only downside of the game is the last third or so loses a lot - they ran out of development time/money, so it becomes a lot more gun fighty whereas the first two thirds or so you can pretty much play a talky or stealthy guy without any major issues. Just make sure to have some combat skills by the end. My favorite is a Toreador with maxed Celerity - you can move fast enough to dodge bullets. And also keep in mind that there are basically three different ways to play the game - Nosferatu, Malkavian, and 'regular' vampire. And some minor differences if you play as Tremere. I'd recommend one of the others for your first run.
Plus it has....
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Play through as a non-Malkavian first, then as a Malkavian. Their dialogue is basically constructed entirely from plot spoilers (including information that's not otherwise available), but obfuscated with symbolism and puns derived from synonyms. Also just gibbering madness, at times.
Don't worry about humanity points, either. You can't drop below a two or three no matter what you do, and in my entire low-humanity playthrough (as a Malkavian) I frenzied once, for less than a second, with the end result of doing exactly what I was trying to do anyways (feed).
Melee does stay viable all through the game, but guns go from useless to awesome by the end. It's not really a hard game even with a non-combat focus, though a few fights can be nasty, and there's one where the only way to win is a scripted kill sequence. All I'll say on that is you're a six, be afraid of the seven, and get into the building to your right immediately because it's faster than you when it's not tearing through walls.
I loved the haunted hotel quest in the opening chapter.
If ever a game called out to be re-mastered (ala Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, Fade to Black HD, etc) its this game.
Get rid of the bugs that made this game so flawed, rebalance endgame and pretty up the graphics a bit, and this would be a damn near perfect gaming experience.
I loved this game.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
Hehe, one day corpses I'll set up a WtA game here on Dakka, would have to be in DCM mind.
Oh and aye Bromsy, got two copies of W20 due, one steelback, one leather, just so I could list our silverfang twins (one npc brother, the other Aura's main PC) in the elder section of the thanks part of the book.
Richard was awesome as well as I requested they get moved above/below one another after the first PDF arrived because they where on different pages and they did so for the final release.
"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
I thought that the game looked fine without a texture patch, so I don't know the link for the HD patch. However a link should be say to find on say Moddb. I'd recommend that you look into any of the top mods on that site for subsequent playthroughs of the game btw.
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: Hehe, one day corpses I'll set up a WtA game here on Dakka, would have to be in DCM mind.
Oh and aye Bromsy, got two copies of W20 due, one steelback, one leather, just so I could list our silverfang twins (one npc brother, the other Aura's main PC) in the elder section of the thanks part of the book.
Richard was awesome as well as I requested they get moved above/below one another after the first PDF arrived because they where on different pages and they did so for the final release.
Just started reading the rules for Demon: The Fallen and that sounds fun as gak to play.
