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The only thing I disagree with in the story is that any deserter including the one in this case get anything less then a Dishonorable Discharge.

No sympathy.

Didnt she get a dishonorable discharge?

Yes, five years ago.

According to the article in the OP, court martial came back with a bad conduct discharge.

Ah, my bad, I missed that it said it was Long who got the dishonorable discharge, rather than this particular soldier. Shrug.

It's a step down from what she deserves personally, though I prefer old school punishments for treason and desertion.

Flogging?

No, Firing Squad.

Grey's got it. Or the noose if we're feeling environmentally friendly.

Why not make a game out of it and make the soldier be hunted by their former unit?

Nah, it's just taking out the trash.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Flogging?

We could have filmed that and made a mint on some of those adult websites I have heard about on the internet... that I've never visited, or spend money on >_>

Should we bill the family for the ammunition like the Imperium does?


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 Alfndrate wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Flogging?

We could have filmed that and made a mint on some of those adult websites I have heard about on the internet... that I've never visited, or spend money on >_>

Riiiiiiight

 Grey Templar wrote:
Should we bill the family for the ammunition like the Imperium does?


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 Alfndrate wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Flogging?

We could have filmed that and made a mint on some of those adult websites I have heard about on the internet... that I've never visited, or spend money on >_>

Riiiiiiight

Only a fool would pay for such things

Can we stop with the misogynistic garbage and get back on topic, please?

This is mysogyny. This is pure sadism.
TBh i dont see how her situation is different from male soldiers. She abandoned her post, she isnt marcus fenix, you have to pay.

 Melissia wrote:
Can we stop with the misogynistic garbage and get back on topic, please?

Quite.

Melissia wrote:More than one male soldier has gone AWOL over a cheating wife, yet they tend to get more sympathy than this. Sad.

Not here, they won't. Also, citations, please.


I've got a question: if an active duty deserter were to be executed via firing squad (does that ever happen anymore?) would their family receive benefits or compensation due to the enlisted being technically killed during their service? (A dumb question, I know, but I'm curious abut how the bureacracy would view that)

IIRC in the past when they did shoot deserters the family didn't receive anything. Not that they got much anyway besides the guy's pay.

 azazel the cat wrote:

Melissia wrote:More than one male soldier has gone AWOL over a cheating wife, yet they tend to get more sympathy than this. Sad.

Not here, they won't. Also, citations, please.

Quick google search resulted in a link:

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/08/awol-soldier-and-the-murdered-child-bride.html
First comment: "He should have killed the cheating *****, too."

Showing support for his actions in going AWOL to murder someone who slept with his wife. Numerous other comments show sympathy as well-- and he's not just AWOL, he's a murderer.

So he's a murderer who went AWOL to kill the guy his wife was cheating on him with, but he gets sympathy because that ***** deserved it. But her? Apparently she's a stupid bitch who got what she deserved, because HOW DARE someone make an irrational decision under the stress and duress she was put in by her husband.

Your link doesn't work :-\

Um, What? IT doesn't say anywhere he is off the charged. It is a comment, If I comments where true, Then i would be a gay black jewish nazi(No offense, I just get called that on youtube alot)
And remember when the View showed support for cutting off her husbands member? People will always see horrible people as ok. Doesnt mean everyone is.
You are seeing zebras.

 azazel the cat wrote:


I've got a question: if an active duty deserter were to be executed via firing squad (does that ever happen anymore?) would their family receive benefits or compensation due to the enlisted being technically killed during their service? (A dumb question, I know, but I'm curious abut how the bureacracy would view that)

Nope, I believe execution also comes with a DHD as far as the military's concerned. So no benefits, no military funeral, just an acute case of lead poisoning and a card board box to ship your useless corpse to your next of kin if they want it. I'd have to check some more current cases, but I think soldiers who get sentenced jail time receive their discharge at sentencing. So the same would apply to a service member placed on death row.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
It is a comment

I'm glad you noticed. Maybe you could also notice that I was talking about the responses of the people on this forum. And I was noting the disparity between comments towards a male soldier and comments towards a female soldier-- how there is a double standard between how male and female soldiers are treated by people on this forum, on the internet, and in society as a whole.

Melissia wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:

Melissia wrote:More than one male soldier has gone AWOL over a cheating wife, yet they tend to get more sympathy than this. Sad.

Not here, they won't. Also, citations, please.

Quick google search resulted in a link:

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/08/awol-soldier-and-the-murdered-child-bride.html
First comment: "He should have killed the cheating *****, too."

Showing support for his actions in going AWOL to murder someone who slept with his wife. Numerous other comments show sympathy as well-- and he's not just AWOL, he's a murderer.

So he's a murderer who went AWOL to kill the guy his wife was cheating on him with, but he gets sympathy because that ***** deserved it. But her? Apparently she's a stupid bitch who got what she deserved, because HOW DARE someone make an irrational decision under the stress and duress she was put in by her husband.

You used the word tend which is indicative of a pattern. Please find some non-anecdotal evidence to support that.

Additionally, the woman in the OP did not cite the "stress and duress she was put in by her husband" as her motivation, she cited that "she became disillusioned with the U.S. mission in Iraq" as her reason for deserting.

Melissia, I think you are projecting your own personal animosity into this.

I dont see anyone here defending the Murderer you posted.
There is no double standard in the army you break their rules,, they break you.

 azazel the cat wrote:
Please find some non-anecdotal evidence to support that.

I didn't just provide anecdotal evidence.

But if you require more links...
ynetnews.com (example from Israel)
community.babycenter.com (testimonials)
cmrlink.org (discusses the disrespect from congress)
heinonline.org (pro-sex-integration article)
adrian.vanbreda.org (pdf: study exploring womens' experiences in the miltiary)

I could go on; stories of female soldiers not being given the respect that male soldiers are given aren't exactly new or rare..

 azazel the cat wrote:
Additionally, the woman in the OP did not cite the "stress and duress she was put in by her husband" as her motivation, she cited that "she became disillusioned with the U.S. mission in Iraq" as her reason for deserting.

I never said she did.

Don't pull crap out of thin air and try to write my name on it.

 azazel the cat wrote:
Melissia, I think you are projecting your own personal animosity into this.

Ah, great, more of the "don't get emotional" baiting. How predictable.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
There is no double standard in the army

You'd be the first person on this forum to say that in a long time.

This is now way off topic guys, maybe take it to another thread.

Discussing peoples' reaction to the article in question is off topic?

It is when you are reading between the lines or talking about the reactions of people not on this site. Who cares what some random comment elsewhere said.