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I have no qualms about playing a grey tide or poorly painted figs. If you dont bring "only legs" to the game or dinosaur / lego proxies, I'll play your plastic dolls anytime of the week!

But heck, I'm colorblind and I paint I just ask my wife if "this color will go with this color well" and proceed. Also, "liquid talent" all-around and after some layers and drybrush I'm golden.


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xCamdenx wrote:
So seeing threads like this fills me with rage. Not at the poster, no ive been there too bud it sucks. But you gta just shug d-bags off like that. From what ive experienced theres going to be that guy everywhere. Painting is not everybody's thing however iwill agree the washes will become your new best friend. But anyways people are just stupid listen to this. At my flgs theres this dude who runs the club and pretty much thinks hes the cats pajamas because he goes to the games day events,plays grey knights, and can paint well. I was playing him with my ultra marines and i drop podded some stern on him. Well he flat out told me that he was not going to continue playing with me because i cheat by not using the specific kit gw sells for veterans. He said if he is going to bring his elitly painted army tothe table that he bought all the units for he would not be insulted by my rag tag models. Ill include a pic and you tell me if you think its a big deal. But i guess whatim trying to say is dnt let them bring you down its your hobby enjoy it how you see fit.


Are those conversions from the AOBR marines? They look fine, and are painted well. Just bear in mind that the "arrow" on the shoulder usually signifies "tactical", but that's nit-picking details. There's no reason for this idiot to refuse to play with you.

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Okay if people are really ragging on your painting and you do wanted painted models try the following. this works better on models without armoured plates.
Spray prime white, you can do entire units at once it doesnt have to be especially smooth cheap aerosol is fine.
I happened to have a primed guardsmen laying around.

Now just wash on some colour, this guy has drakenhof nightshade on the coat, sepia on the mask, gloves and trousers and some nuln oil for the helmet, shoulders boots and eyes.
Took a total of 6 minutes, once dry a coat of watery nuln oil will bring it together in the meantime i will go find some batterys for an actual camera.


The entire painting setup fits between my keyboard and the edge of the table, if you really dont want to paint then thats fine but there should be no reason why you cant paint.

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When I started, I played some WHF, and a whole lot of BFG. Which was all painted, washed, and all of that fun stuff (I even had fun with glow in the dark paints)
I got strong armed into 40K and bought two starters (Marines and Dark Eldar) and a few boxes of IG. Then I wanted to play Marines more, just because I did not have enough points to field IG all the time, so I bought a few boxes and a lot of metal Marines.
Well that's a lot to paint at once. (Hell my LR was unprimed for 5 years, until I was deployed in the Navy and someone primed it to be nice..not asking why I was not pleased with it being all black now, in place of the Gray primer I used for my tanks)
Then I got a Chaos piece (Abbadon), then started getting Sisters of Battle, then new codexes mean I needed new minis as old ones where no longer in use, and while I painted my HQs, there was just a whole lot of plastic to get painted,

The local store had a house rule that all models were 2 points more if they did not have three colors on them.
So I cheated, bought the black Templar codex, primed them all black, primed the shoulder pads white, painted the bolters with silver, or gold on the chest pieces, and said "three colors" and that kids is why I play Templars.

Still have not got everything painted, after 13 years of playing 40K...but I was putting in $200 orders every other week, or buying $600 GW orders on holidays for myself, got two or three of each starter...and I play Necromonga, and 5 amries (8 if you count all of the Dark Angels, Dark Eldar and Orks I have now) I still have not touched anything from the Black Reach sets other than to put them together and buy a truck and buggy. I have 5 buildings, and more hills, walls and other board pieces than I know what to do with.

So when anyone says my painting looks rushed, or that I need to paint some more of my guys, I point out the mass number of crap I have and I am working on it...and that because of me, we have a large room, with mini frig, TV/Cable, couches, gaming tables (we can squeeze in two slandered tables in if we had too) all the pieces needed for those tables, with no kids, no set hours, and plenty of crash space for after game. If my painting means that much to them, they can paint them for me.

Okay, so I took the whole game space to a whole new level and converted the bottom floor of my house (with extra bedroom and bathroom) to a Comic/Game space for people..but my ex liked it we stayed downstairs, and she liked to come flirt with the guys just to be a tease...so it all worked out.
   
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OP: dont worry about jerks, as long as you made the effort and are a fun guy to play, thats all that is needed.

some of the people posting here have some good tips, I know that it took me many years to develope as a painter (playing over 14-15yrs of 40k now, so i better have picked SOMETHING up)

the right color primer, then dipping, or washing models so the recessed details get picked up, will go very far towards making the army look better, and doesnt require a fine hand/lots of time/ect

you can also build up on that kind of work, adding a color here, details there, as you go.

its still free to go in to a GW store and get painting lessons to i think, depending on who is at the store they might be better or worse at teaching tho

 
   
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Makumba wrote:
I dont paint models because of 3 things , it costs too much , takes too much time and I dont have a place to paint. I understand that some people may want to play against a painted army , but let us be honest how much of a model does one see from the other side of the table .


There are ways around cost and time. A can of matte black spray paint is usually less than a dollar.

Not all model paints are sold by GW so there are far better deals (and companies) to go through.

Mix a bit of grey with a bit of black and do a super heavy drybrush while everything is still on sprue.

Then glue them together. Cover the "snips" with the same mix. Paint their eyes. Now you have an army with three colors and it took 20 minutes.

I'm known for completeing 10man Ultramarine squads in 6 hours. That's with highlighting and details and little black squigls for text on purity seals.

Heck, I painted a Dakkajet this week.... though I need to add all my usual orky glyphs and stuff. It was painted in 2 hour segements twice a day.

I paint in my bedroom at a card table covered in Mtn Dew cans and horrible lighting.

The Chaplain in my avatar was painted in 2 hours but I never finished him. I have also painted a Dark Elf army so fast I forgot I painted it.

I was looking through my closet and was like, "Whoa, where the hell did all these elves come from... oh yeah!"

But in general, I prefer to play agaist painted armies over unpainted. I have no problems with unpainted stuff but I always hope someday that person will finish the project.

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Haha, it seems really harsh to judge another players paintjobs and call him out on it. What the hell did you do? Spray paint them a solid color or something? Everyone loves playing against awesome models, and the lack of a paint is usually an indicator of a not fun person to play against.


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And yeah, RicBlasko, but you DID make it so you could distinguish the models from eachother. I really don't care if things are unpainted if you mark them in some way so you know what squad is which. It gets really old and confusing trying to figure out who moved when things are completely unmarked. A simple solution is to just put a drop of paint on the base of each model in a squad.

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Hetelic wrote:
xCamdenx wrote:
So seeing threads like this fills me with rage. Not at the poster, no ive been there too bud it sucks. But you gta just shug d-bags off like that. From what ive experienced theres going to be that guy everywhere. Painting is not everybody's thing however iwill agree the washes will become your new best friend. But anyways people are just stupid listen to this. At my flgs theres this dude who runs the club and pretty much thinks hes the cats pajamas because he goes to the games day events,plays grey knights, and can paint well. I was playing him with my ultra marines and i drop podded some stern on him. Well he flat out told me that he was not going to continue playing with me because i cheat by not using the specific kit gw sells for veterans. He said if he is going to bring his elitly painted army tothe table that he bought all the units for he would not be insulted by my rag tag models. Ill include a pic and you tell me if you think its a big deal. But i guess whatim trying to say is dnt let them bring you down its your hobby enjoy it how you see fit.


Are those conversions from the AOBR marines? They look fine, and are painted well. Just bear in mind that the "arrow" on the shoulder usually signifies "tactical", but that's nit-picking details. There's no reason for this idiot to refuse to play with you.



Actually they are from dark vengeance. I did think of filing down the tac aarow but figured it looked pretty cool.

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 DeffDred wrote:
Makumba wrote:
I dont paint models because of 3 things , it costs too much , takes too much time and I dont have a place to paint. I understand that some people may want to play against a painted army , but let us be honest how much of a model does one see from the other side of the table .


There are ways around cost and time. A can of matte black spray paint is usually less than a dollar.

Not all model paints are sold by GW so there are far better deals (and companies) to go through.

Mix a bit of grey with a bit of black and do a super heavy drybrush while everything is still on sprue.

Then glue them together. Cover the "snips" with the same mix. Paint their eyes. Now you have an army with three colors and it took 20 minutes.

I'm known for completeing 10man Ultramarine squads in 6 hours. That's with highlighting and details and little black squigls for text on purity seals.
.


I never use GW paints, stopped back in 97 or so.
But as for painting, we had a system, with my friends Battle Smurfs, my Templar, and my IG. We primed, then one person say down with say black, one with bolt gun, and one with red. We passed the pieces down the row. One person painted the eyes red, next was the gun, then the barrel and chainswords.
Pick three new colors, and do it again. We could churn out squads upon squads in no time. Henry Ford had the right idea.
   
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Makumba wrote:
I dont paint models because of 3 things , it costs too much , takes too much time and I dont have a place to paint. I understand that some people may want to play against a painted army , but let us be honest how much of a model does one see from the other side of the table .


Painting Guard, as you gave as the army you own, is so incredibly easy to paint to tabletop standard. You can do a whole army with one can of spray, one wash, five colours and one brush. Don't buy GW paints, they're expensive with a small quantity of paint. Try Army Painter, Vallejo or Reaper. Maybe even P3.

Tan coloured spray. Just whatever automotive spray paint you find locally. A brown wash, something like Agrax Earthshade (though I'd recommend Army Painter Strongtone Ink, it's cheaper and you get about twice as much). A dark green colour, a tan colour, a flesh colour, and silver.

Spray everything tan. Fix up any missed areas with the brush on tan paint. Pick out armour, helmets, canteens, grenades, etc in the dark green. Pick out skin with the flesh colour. Pick out barrels with the silver. Hit every model with the brown wash. Simply paint the bases with the green paint.

Done, tabletop quality. Won't win awards, but will look absolutely fine on the table, and much better than unpainted.

After that, if you want to go further, that same paint can be used to layer up over the wash.

The problem with painting guides is they don't cover getting an army to such a basic tabletop standard, because it's assumed knowledge.
   
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 -Loki- wrote:
The problem with painting guides is they don't cover getting an army to such a basic tabletop standard, because it's assumed knowledge.


Not to stray way off topic here but I agree. I think I may just start a tutorial on quick painting. I have plenty of stuff to work on.

For instance I have Eldar and Dark Eldar. Whole armies still in boxes. I've started the Eldar (in hopes of an awesome new codex) first.

In a single week I painted, Eldrad, 10 Dire Avengers, 5 Reapers and a Wave Serpent. All of them are ready for the table but not "finished" in my eyes.

I want to brighten the Avengers helms and paint the aspect symbol on their forheads. Eldrads sword needs its gems painted and I forgot to paint the missile pods on the Reapers belts.

So to be back on topic...

It drives me insane using my own unfinished models. But I have no problem with someone elses army being unfinished.

I just prefer that everything being used in the game is at least fully assembled or as far as can be if you pain models in parts.

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at my local game store a few of the new guys coming through have them just undercoated and to me that is fine. I however like to have them painted so I know exactly what they are and so they look pretty.

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I did a 5 man scout sniper team the other day in 5 hours incl assembly. Was actually a bit disappointed it didnt take longer lol as ive come to like painting. Definitely get into aerosols though, they make it so much easier, and spray on the sprue helps.

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 DeffDred wrote:

There are ways around cost and time. A can of matte black spray paint is usually less than a dollar.

Not all model paints are sold by GW so there are far better deals (and companies) to go through.

Mix a bit of grey with a bit of black and do a super heavy drybrush while everything is still on sprue.

Then glue them together. Cover the "snips" with the same mix. Paint their eyes. Now you have an army with three colors and it took 20 minutes.

I'm known for completeing 10man Ultramarine squads in 6 hours. That's with highlighting and details and little black squigls for text on purity seals.

Heck, I painted a Dakkajet this week.... though I need to add all my usual orky glyphs and stuff. It was painted in 2 hour segements twice a day.

I paint in my bedroom at a card table covered in Mtn Dew cans and horrible lighting.
.


shops here sell either GW paints or valejo ones . I dont see a price difference between those . the only time and place I could paint models is when my brother is not at home and I would have to paint sitting on my bad. I tried glueing stuff while siting on my bad.
also the time you give scares me . 6 hours per 10 dudes and 2 hours per 1 vehicles . with over 50 IG models and 3 LR 1 manticore and 4 vendettas it would take me 316 hours to finish . I get around 1-2 hour free time per day and most of the time my brother is in the room , so painting is impossible . It would take years to finish .


The entire painting setup fits between my keyboard and the edge of the table, if you really dont want to paint then thats fine but there should be no reason why you cant paint.

I share the room with my brother . We have my bad , his bad , his piano , 1 desk for both of us and a narrow corridor to go in and out . There is 0 space to paint anything at home. I mean to glue my models I had to sit on our balcony [1,5x2,5m size] and even then I got flak from neighbors because of the stink.
   
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Using an ink wash adds a nice touch if that will help

 
   
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Makumba wrote:
 DeffDred wrote:

There are ways around cost and time. A can of matte black spray paint is usually less than a dollar.

Not all model paints are sold by GW so there are far better deals (and companies) to go through.

Mix a bit of grey with a bit of black and do a super heavy drybrush while everything is still on sprue.

Then glue them together. Cover the "snips" with the same mix. Paint their eyes. Now you have an army with three colors and it took 20 minutes.

I'm known for completeing 10man Ultramarine squads in 6 hours. That's with highlighting and details and little black squigls for text on purity seals.

Heck, I painted a Dakkajet this week.... though I need to add all my usual orky glyphs and stuff. It was painted in 2 hour segements twice a day.

I paint in my bedroom at a card table covered in Mtn Dew cans and horrible lighting.
.


shops here sell either GW paints or valejo ones . I dont see a price difference between those . the only time and place I could paint models is when my brother is not at home and I would have to paint sitting on my bad. I tried glueing stuff while siting on my bad.
also the time you give scares me . 6 hours per 10 dudes and 2 hours per 1 vehicles . with over 50 IG models and 3 LR 1 manticore and 4 vendettas it would take me 316 hours to finish . I get around 1-2 hour free time per day and most of the time my brother is in the room , so painting is impossible . It would take years to finish .


The entire painting setup fits between my keyboard and the edge of the table, if you really dont want to paint then thats fine but there should be no reason why you cant paint.

I share the room with my brother . We have my bad , his bad , his piano , 1 desk for both of us and a narrow corridor to go in and out . There is 0 space to paint anything at home. I mean to glue my models I had to sit on our balcony [1,5x2,5m size] and even then I got flak from neighbors because of the stink.

Low skill painting such as mine takes about ten minutes per guy if I feel like being really detailed. About two if I'm just mono-colouring a spess marine.
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Makumba wrote:
 DeffDred wrote:

There are ways around cost and time. A can of matte black spray paint is usually less than a dollar.

Not all model paints are sold by GW so there are far better deals (and companies) to go through.

Mix a bit of grey with a bit of black and do a super heavy drybrush while everything is still on sprue.

Then glue them together. Cover the "snips" with the same mix. Paint their eyes. Now you have an army with three colors and it took 20 minutes.

I'm known for completeing 10man Ultramarine squads in 6 hours. That's with highlighting and details and little black squigls for text on purity seals.

Heck, I painted a Dakkajet this week.... though I need to add all my usual orky glyphs and stuff. It was painted in 2 hour segements twice a day.

I paint in my bedroom at a card table covered in Mtn Dew cans and horrible lighting.
.


shops here sell either GW paints or valejo ones . I dont see a price difference between those . the only time and place I could paint models is when my brother is not at home and I would have to paint sitting on my bad. I tried glueing stuff while siting on my bad.
also the time you give scares me . 6 hours per 10 dudes and 2 hours per 1 vehicles . with over 50 IG models and 3 LR 1 manticore and 4 vendettas it would take me 316 hours to finish . I get around 1-2 hour free time per day and most of the time my brother is in the room , so painting is impossible . It would take years to finish .


The entire painting setup fits between my keyboard and the edge of the table, if you really dont want to paint then thats fine but there should be no reason why you cant paint.

I share the room with my brother . We have my bad , his bad , his piano , 1 desk for both of us and a narrow corridor to go in and out . There is 0 space to paint anything at home. I mean to glue my models I had to sit on our balcony [1,5x2,5m size] and even then I got flak from neighbors because of the stink.


At this point you've basically decided its impossible for you to paint and no one is going to get that opinion to change. I guess you might as well get used to going with grey models. I am not trying to be a dick but every response to you has been met with you defending the hopelessness of your situation. My advice is to just keep collecting and hope when you move out you get a dorm, apartment, or house with some painting space... other than that Idk maybe ask the local craft store if they have painting hours and if they'd be ok with you bringing your toy soldiers into paint with the people painting trinkets.

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other than that Idk maybe ask the local craft store if they have painting hours and if they'd be ok with you bringing your toy soldiers into paint with the people painting trinkets.

out of the 4 shops that I know that are here , only 2 lets you paint stuff there . Our only GW shop , I even went there , but they have a paint station for 2 people . One of which is always taken up by one the the store clerks and they only let people paint models you buy at the GW and only with GW paints. The other store called citadel is on the other side of Warsaw of me . It takes more then an hour to get there , so I cant go there durning the week . Every second weekend I have reconvalestation training and on sundays I do school stuff and church. Ah and to top it off I dont like the people there are rather unfriendly .

As the own home goes , technicly the avarge to move from parents home is 28 years here so I still have 12 years for that . I doubt any of the people I know will be playing table top games in 12 years.
   
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Like I said you have convinced yourself of the helplessness of your situation, if its so dire either get used to the Grey IG armies or stop wargaming because apparently no one can help you.

Like I said that's not a flippant "feth you and get out", I'd play against a grey army anyday (though I refuse to field grey legions myself), but if having a grey army bothers you then I suggest you stop playing because you are in a situation where you have stated yourself you literally cannot paint.

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I'd rather you did, but I really don't care (I was TFG at my FLGS for a while, but then I decided to paint all my guys, and Now I have a well painted Eldar (and growing Tau) army.

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Its probably been pointed out but maybe pay someone? Im no artist but my mate absolutely hates painting so got me to paint his eldar to an acceptable level for a box of beers and the required can of aerosol. Twas a very green white and black eldar army, but better than grey.

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xCamdenx wrote:
So seeing threads like this fills me with rage. Not at the poster, no ive been there too bud it sucks. But you gta just shug d-bags off like that. From what ive experienced theres going to be that guy everywhere. Painting is not everybody's thing however iwill agree the washes will become your new best friend. But anyways people are just stupid listen to this. At my flgs theres this dude who runs the club and pretty much thinks hes the cats pajamas because he goes to the games day events,plays grey knights, and can paint well. I was playing him with my ultra marines and i drop podded some stern on him. Well he flat out told me that he was not going to continue playing with me because i cheat by not using the specific kit gw sells for veterans. He said if he is going to bring his elitly painted army tothe table that he bought all the units for he would not be insulted by my rag tag models. Ill include a pic and you tell me if you think its a big deal. But i guess whatim trying to say is dnt let them bring you down its your hobby enjoy it how you see fit.


A few points here.
a) Grey Knights are one of the gayest, easiest to play and easiest to paint armies in the whole bloody 40k universe. All you have to do is highlight silver, be able to whip up a glow effect and wash down some gold and you're pretty much there.
b) I use proxy models at my local club, for a couple of weeks my 'Wracks' were in fact squads of Kabalite Warriors, and my 'Ravager' was actually a Thunderwolf, because they share the same base.. If this guy is getting all snarky about you not using the correct models, then he's just a big of a dick....
c) Using proxy models is not 'cheating'
d) Guys like the one you're describing ruin the hobby for a lot of people. They're called 'elitists', try and stay well away from them .-.

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pax_imperialis wrote:
Its probably been pointed out but maybe pay someone? Im no artist but my mate absolutely hates painting so got me to paint his eldar to an acceptable level for a box of beers and the required can of aerosol. Twas a very green white and black eldar army, but better than grey.

table top costs around 1-1.5 euro for human sized models .Even with discounts for whole army it would be almost 100 euros for the infantry , the 4 vendettas , my LR and mantiocore would go for 200 [25euro per tank sized model] . that would be around 300 euros for a full army , that is twice what I can earn durning a single summer.


I'd play against a grey army anyday (though I refuse to field grey legions myself), but if having a grey army bothers you then I suggest you stop playing because you are in a situation where you have stated yourself you literally cannot paint.


doesnt bother me , but even the store tournaments ask for 5 colors minimum and If I cant play in leagues or tournaments I limit the number of models I can get.
   
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my personal baseline is 3x colors and a flocked base. Anything less and I think someone is lazy, but thats just me. If it looks like it passed through a termagaunt's digestive tract so what? IT HAS 3 COLORS AND IS BASED.

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anchorbine wrote:
As somebody new to the hobby, it seems that it is a very small niche of players. I'm currently building my first army, and I won't field them until they are completely painted and based. I'm content with how they are looking so far, but they are a far cry from some of the astounding work I've seen from others. That being said, if you can't be bothered to at least make the attempt to paint your miniatures, why not just play risk or axis and allies?

Imagine playing magic with cards with no art and just text. It could be done, but it definitely loses most of its appeal.


Indeed Anchorbine -- it can be done but you miss all the fun of it!!

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BrotherVord wrote:
xCamdenx wrote:
So seeing threads like this fills me with rage. Not at the poster, no ive been there too bud it sucks. But you gta just shug d-bags off like that. From what ive experienced theres going to be that guy everywhere. Painting is not everybody's thing however iwill agree the washes will become your new best friend. But anyways people are just stupid listen to this. At my flgs theres this dude who runs the club and pretty much thinks hes the cats pajamas because he goes to the games day events,plays grey knights, and can paint well. I was playing him with my ultra marines and i drop podded some stern on him. Well he flat out told me that he was not going to continue playing with me because i cheat by not using the specific kit gw sells for veterans. He said if he is going to bring his elitly painted army tothe table that he bought all the units for he would not be insulted by my rag tag models. Ill include a pic and you tell me if you think its a big deal. But i guess whatim trying to say is dnt let them bring you down its your hobby enjoy it how you see fit.


Anybody not accepting those models at anything other than the most elite level of tourney...especially anyone who makes those comments, shouldn't be allowed to play at that location anymore on the grounds that he is a huuuuuuge douche

At high-level tournaments, no-one will even comment on those guys. They're space marines with bolters and veteran markings. It is 100% obvious what they are. Except to the douchbag in the story, apparently.


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Makumba wrote:
pax_imperialis wrote:
Its probably been pointed out but maybe pay someone? Im no artist but my mate absolutely hates painting so got me to paint his eldar to an acceptable level for a box of beers and the required can of aerosol. Twas a very green white and black eldar army, but better than grey.

table top costs around 1-1.5 euro for human sized models .Even with discounts for whole army it would be almost 100 euros for the infantry , the 4 vendettas , my LR and mantiocore would go for 200 [25euro per tank sized model] . that would be around 300 euros for a full army , that is twice what I can earn durning a single summer.
I'd play against a grey army anyday (though I refuse to field grey legions myself), but if having a grey army bothers you then I suggest you stop playing because you are in a situation where you have stated yourself you literally cannot paint.

doesnt bother me , but even the store tournaments ask for 5 colors minimum and If I cant play in leagues or tournaments I limit the number of models I can get.

Firstly, if you're considering having them painted by someone else - students are what you need. They have time on their hands and will generally work for peanuts.

However, painting a bunch of models quickly is not hard at all. I can generally knock out 3-4 squads or vehicles in a day. That means you can paint a 2000 point IG army in less than two months of weekends only. Have a look here, there's a quick vehicle tutorial:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326362.page#5503194
Feel free to PM with questions.

You're going to need to find somewhere to paint though. On your bed isn't a great idea for a variety of reasons(stability, spills, etc.) Is there nowhere else in your home that you can paint? If your parents are concerned about spills and so forth then I'd suggest going to your local art store for a hobby station (like the old GW wooden one but cheaper) and then going to a toy store for a plastic arts&crafts mat for children. The paint station protects the table and the mat protects the floor.

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Makumba wrote:
other than that Idk maybe ask the local craft store if they have painting hours and if they'd be ok with you bringing your toy soldiers into paint with the people painting trinkets.

out of the 4 shops that I know that are here , only 2 lets you paint stuff there . Our only GW shop , I even went there , but they have a paint station for 2 people . One of which is always taken up by one the the store clerks and they only let people paint models you buy at the GW and only with GW paints. The other store called citadel is on the other side of Warsaw of me . It takes more then an hour to get there , so I cant go there durning the week . Every second weekend I have reconvalestation training and on sundays I do school stuff and church. Ah and to top it off I dont like the people there are rather unfriendly .

As the own home goes , technicly the avarge to move from parents home is 28 years here so I still have 12 years for that . I doubt any of the people I know will be playing table top games in 12 years.


Go to the store, any Wal-Mart, or Meijer's style store. They have a whole sections of paints. You can buy a very large tube of paint cheap. I got 8oz of Forest Green and 2 oz of Flesh tone acrylic paint for under $5. They even have packs of different size brushes for $4.99.
I spent less on green fabric to fit a gaming table, a dozen paints, brushes, a couple of trays, and a starter paint set (brushes, little trays of paints) and a can of primer than I would have on the newest Codex I bought.
And you can paint at your kitchen table, just put down something so not to get paint everywhere.
I do not paint anywhere near as much as I may want to, but it's because I get side tracked with other things. Finding paint or a place to do it, is way cheaper than buying a new mini. In your case, it seems like more of a reason not to paint. Either you do, or you do not.
   
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Makumba wrote:
I doubt any of the people I know will be playing table top games in 12 years.

You might be surprised by how many of the people on here are over 30...


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Makumba wrote:
shops here sell either GW paints or valejo ones . I dont see a price difference between those . the only time and place I could paint models is when my brother is not at home and I would have to paint sitting on my bad. I tried glueing stuff while siting on my bad. also the time you give scares me . 6 hours per 10 dudes and 2 hours per 1 vehicles . with over 50 IG models and 3 LR 1 manticore and 4 vendettas it would take me 316 hours to finish . I get around 1-2 hour free time per day and most of the time my brother is in the room , so painting is impossible . It would take years to finish .

316 hours is 6hours per week for a year. If you paint all day then that's two satudays per month.

Personally, I don't think it'll take nearly that long. Three squads or vehicles per day means that you're looking at about 5 days.

Since you're 14 then holidays are not in short supply. Painting that army during a two week school holiday is quite achievable.

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 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
 Brother SRM wrote:
There's a reason Devlan Mud (now Agrax Earthshade) is known as "talent in a bottle"

Washes are definitely a mediocre painter's best friend, they make everything look so much better. (Post 3000 btw!)


Very true, they are also great for knocking out those rank and file models for armies like Daemons and Eldar (both varieties) very quickly. I'm an average painter at best, but I'm also a very slow painter. The GW washes helped me knock out 43 daemons in 2 weeks. base coat, touch up, wash, done!
   
 
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